Occupy support drops more than 20 points in San Francisco

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    Feb 01, 2012 6:23 AM GMT
    Pretty remarkable. I am guessing the classwarfare trope will fail in the fall.

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1dd2e8b1-38aa-456a-b000-c1ab1639f64d

    Supported/Still do: 32%
    Supported/Now oppose: 26%
    Opposed/Now support: 3%
    Opposed/Still do: 31%
    Not sure: 8%
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    Feb 01, 2012 1:34 PM GMT
    jpBITCHva saidThe only thing we can be sure of is that you'll still be making moronic pronouncements.


    I'm more certain of that than the sun rising.

    In terms of Occupy, the police in Oakland have been doing everything they can to provoke violent clashes with OO and then the media reports that which is a turnoff to a lot of people. But that has nothing do with how people feel about OWS' critique or vision, which still enjoy majority support.
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    Christian73 saidIn terms of Occupy, the police in Oakland have been doing everything they can to provoke violent clashes with OO and then the media reports that which is a turnoff to a lot of people. But that has nothing do with how people feel about OWS' critique or vision, which still enjoy majority support.

    He knows that.
    The desperate attempts to discredit OWS and its counterparts stems from the fact that their mere existence puts the lie to everything the right claims as "truth". It especially highlights the fraudulent nature of the Tea Party, although that seems to be dying on its own (as I predicted it would once the novelty wore off).

    But if Occupy does nothing more than continue to irritate the crap out of Riddler and the rest of the Conservaposse, it deserves our wholehearted support.


    Lol - touchy much? It must bother you to the extreme how poorly the Occupy movement has done (as predicted). Support has fallen dramatically across the country while voters have consistently stated their interest in pro-growth versus inequity reduction policies.

    Dream on crazy man. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 01, 2012 2:24 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidPretty remarkable. I am guessing the classwarfare trope will fail in the fall.

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1dd2e8b1-38aa-456a-b000-c1ab1639f64d

    Supported/Still do: 32%
    Supported/Now oppose: 26%
    Opposed/Now support: 3%
    Opposed/Still do: 31%
    Not sure: 8%

    Based on a study from Harvard, less than 1 in 4 folks in the 18-29 age group support the occupy movement. The hardcore liberals on RJ are extremely out of touch. Funny thing - hard for them to discredit the messenger, Harvard in this case, their typical MO.
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    Feb 01, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidPretty remarkable. I am guessing the classwarfare trope will fail in the fall.

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1dd2e8b1-38aa-456a-b000-c1ab1639f64d

    Supported/Still do: 32%
    Supported/Now oppose: 26%
    Opposed/Now support: 3%
    Opposed/Still do: 31%
    Not sure: 8%

    Based on a study from Harvard, less than 1 in 4 folks in the 18-29 age group support the occupy movement. The hardcore liberals on RJ and extremely out of touch. Funny thing - hard for them to discredit the messenger, Harvard in this case, their typical MO.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2036673/


    It is bizarre how tremendously out of touch some of these guys are - even while social policies are increasingly unaffordable their solution seems to be tax the rich, and come out with another program to solve society's ills.
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:48 PM GMT
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    riddler78 saidPretty remarkable. I am guessing the classwarfare trope will fail in the fall.

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1dd2e8b1-38aa-456a-b000-c1ab1639f64d

    Supported/Still do: 32%
    Supported/Now oppose: 26%
    Opposed/Now support: 3%
    Opposed/Still do: 31%
    Not sure: 8%

    Based on a study from Harvard, less than 1 in 4 folks in the 18-29 age group support the occupy movement. The hardcore liberals on RJ and extremely out of touch. Funny thing - hard for them to discredit the messenger, Harvard in this case, their typical MO.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2036673/

    It is bizarre how tremendously out of touch some of these guys are - even while social policies are increasingly unaffordable their solution seems to be tax the rich, and come out with another program to solve society's ills.

    Yup, tell me about all the societies that have taxed their way into prosperity.
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Given that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 01, 2012 6:43 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah - that's precisely what they did icon_rolleyes.gif - and yet people still don't care anymore than they used to according to polling data - but I mean hey, why pay attention to the facts?
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    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah - that's precisely what they did icon_rolleyes.gif - and yet people still don't care anymore than they used to according to polling data - but I mean hey, why pay attention to the facts?

    You literally are dumber than a box of rocks. This is not a figure of speech, nor is it hyperbole. There is actually more sentience in the box.


    So sayeth the crazy old man... must get pretty tiring telling the kids to get off your lawn icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 01, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah - that's precisely what they did icon_rolleyes.gif - and yet people still don't care anymore than they used to according to polling data - but I mean hey, why pay attention to the facts?

    You literally are dumber than a box of rocks. This is not a figure of speech, nor is it hyperbole. There is actually more sentience in the box.


    So sayeth the crazy old man... must get pretty tiring telling the kids to get off your lawn icon_wink.gif


    No. We all tire of you posting things that are completely the opposite of truth. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 01, 2012 6:57 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah - that's precisely what they did icon_rolleyes.gif - and yet people still don't care anymore than they used to according to polling data - but I mean hey, why pay attention to the facts?

    You literally are dumber than a box of rocks. This is not a figure of speech, nor is it hyperbole. There is actually more sentience in the box.


    So sayeth the crazy old man... must get pretty tiring telling the kids to get off your lawn icon_wink.gif


    No. We all tire of you posting things that are completely the opposite of truth. icon_lol.gif

    Doesn't make sense. What he generally posts are articles from the press, and often well respected (by many) sources such as Bloomberg.
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    Feb 01, 2012 6:59 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah - that's precisely what they did icon_rolleyes.gif - and yet people still don't care anymore than they used to according to polling data - but I mean hey, why pay attention to the facts?

    You literally are dumber than a box of rocks. This is not a figure of speech, nor is it hyperbole. There is actually more sentience in the box.


    So sayeth the crazy old man... must get pretty tiring telling the kids to get off your lawn icon_wink.gif


    No. We all tire of you posting things that are completely the opposite of truth. icon_lol.gif

    Doesn't make sense. What he generally posts are articles from the press, and often well respected (by many) sources such as Bloomberg.


    He sometimes posts articles from Bloomberg, etc. but more often he posts editorial written by far right lunatics like Joseph Q. Wilson.

    Of course, you are similar trapped in the Obama Derangement Syndrome bubble and so believe anything anti-Obama (e.g. "food stamp president") regardless of the facts.
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    Feb 01, 2012 7:09 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Yeah - that's precisely what they did icon_rolleyes.gif - and yet people still don't care anymore than they used to according to polling data - but I mean hey, why pay attention to the facts?

    You literally are dumber than a box of rocks. This is not a figure of speech, nor is it hyperbole. There is actually more sentience in the box.


    So sayeth the crazy old man... must get pretty tiring telling the kids to get off your lawn icon_wink.gif


    No. We all tire of you posting things that are completely the opposite of truth. icon_lol.gif

    Doesn't make sense. What he generally posts are articles from the press, and often well respected (by many) sources such as Bloomberg.


    He sometimes posts articles from Bloomberg, etc. but more often he posts editorial written by far right lunatics like Joseph Q. Wilson.

    Of course, you are similar trapped in the Obama Derangement Syndrome bubble and so believe anything anti-Obama (e.g. "food stamp president") regardless of the facts.


    Lol so says the guy who had a bad case of the Bush Derangement Syndrome. Your attempt to label anyone who actually attempts to post facts as "lunatics" says more about you than them. It says even more that you resort to ad hominem attacks rather than looking at the underlying facts - but then it sort of explains why you believe the things to do.
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    Feb 01, 2012 8:55 PM GMT
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    Lol so says the guy who had a bad case of the Bush Derangement Syndrome. Your attempt to label anyone who actually attempts to post facts as "lunatics" says more about you than them. It says even more that you resort to ad hominem attacks rather than looking at the underlying facts - but then it sort of explains why you believe the things to do.


    The difference between Bush Derangement Syndrome and Obama Derangement Syndrome is that the critiques of Bush were largely true.

    And it's very hard to look at the underlying facts when all you do is post editorials by extremist Austrian economists that have no basis in reality.
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    Feb 01, 2012 10:21 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    This is exactly right. Occupy has changed the direction of our country for the better, and is being emulated around the world. Suddenly politicians (even Republicans) are rediscovering the middle class and realizing that deficit reduction / special gifts for the wealthy should no longer the primary policy goals.
    This is the most successful activist movement since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. And it's just getting started.
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    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    This is exactly right. Occupy has changed the direction of our country for the better, and is being emulated around the world. Suddenly politicians (even Republicans) are rediscovering the middle class and realizing that deficit reduction / special gifts for the wealthy should no longer the primary policy goals.
    This is the most successful activist movement since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. And it's just getting started.


    I couldn't help but read this and giggle. What a world you must live in to be this delusional.
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    Feb 01, 2012 11:04 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    This is exactly right. Occupy has changed the direction of our country for the better, and is being emulated around the world. Suddenly politicians (even Republicans) are rediscovering the middle class and realizing that deficit reduction / special gifts for the wealthy should no longer the primary policy goals.
    This is the most successful activist movement since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. And it's just getting started.


    Yup! I think it's going to be huge once it gets warmer on the East Coast.

    In terms of the two chuckle heads above me, they live inside the right-wing media bubble and will be really surprised once the spring comes.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:15 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    This is exactly right. Occupy has changed the direction of our country for the better, and is being emulated around the world. Suddenly politicians (even Republicans) are rediscovering the middle class and realizing that deficit reduction / special gifts for the wealthy should no longer the primary policy goals.
    This is the most successful activist movement since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. And it's just getting started.


    Yup! I think it's going to be huge once it gets warmer on the East Coast.

    In terms of the two chuckle heads above me, they live inside the right-wing media bubble and will be really surprised once the spring comes.


    Lol more delusions of grandeur.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:34 AM GMT
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    Christian73 said
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    Christian73 saidGiven that OWS managed to change the entire policy conversation in this country from "deficit reduction" to income inequality in a few months, the idea that it isn't having an impact is ridiculous. icon_rolleyes.gif


    This is exactly right. Occupy has changed the direction of our country for the better, and is being emulated around the world. Suddenly politicians (even Republicans) are rediscovering the middle class and realizing that deficit reduction / special gifts for the wealthy should no longer the primary policy goals.
    This is the most successful activist movement since the civil rights movement of the 1960s. And it's just getting started.


    Yup! I think it's going to be huge once it gets warmer on the East Coast.

    In terms of the two chuckle heads above me, they live inside the right-wing media bubble and will be really surprised once the spring comes.


    Lol more delusions of grandeur.


    Nope. OWS has Frank Luntz shitting his pants and trying to rewrite the Republican talking points book, but it won't work.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:39 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidIt is bizarre how tremendously out of touch some of these guys are - even while social policies are increasingly unaffordable their solution seems to be tax the rich, and come out with another program to solve society's ills.

    And it's miraculous how tremendously in-touch someone in Toronto, Canada can be about Oakland, California. Perhaps your concern about "society's ills" could be better focused on your own home country.

    And isn't the combined Federal and Provincial tax rates on Canada's wealthy higher than in the US, with fewer exemptions? I think you have a bigger problem sitting right under your own nose that you better attend to immediately, rather than selflessly ignoring it to help us out down here first.

    BTW, do you enjoy medical care up there in Canada, that you would like to see denied to those of us in the States? Isn't that a bit uncharitable on your part, if not downright hypocritical?

    Well, anyway, perhaps someday you'll find time to tell us about Canada where you live, as passionately as you tell us about the US, where you don't live, and what you would do to improve your own country, rather than how to improve ours. Just a thought...
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:48 AM GMT
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    riddler78 saidIt is bizarre how tremendously out of touch some of these guys are - even while social policies are increasingly unaffordable their solution seems to be tax the rich, and come out with another program to solve society's ills.

    And it's miraculous how tremendously in-touch someone in Toronto, Canada can be about Oakland, California. Perhaps your concern about "society's ills" could be better focused on your own home country.

    And isn't the combined Federal and Provincial tax rates on Canada's wealthy higher than in the US, with fewer exemptions? I think you have a bigger problem sitting right under your own nose that you better attend to immediately, rather than selflessly ignoring it to help us out down here first.

    BTW, do you enjoy medical care up there in Canada, that you would like to see denied to those of us in the States? Isn't that a bit uncharitable on your part, if not downright hypocritical?

    Well, anyway, perhaps someday you'll find time to tell us about Canada where you live, as passionately as you tell us about the US, where you don't live, and what you would do to improve your own country, rather than how to improve ours. Just a thought...


    Blah blah blah - bottomline - the US and many countries in the west are no longer able to afford the massive social spending and infrastructure built on borrowed dollars. Canada's medical system is crumbling and in need of a serious overhaul and all provinces are only beginning to come to terms with this crisis. As for Canada? Corporate taxes are considerably less than the US and combined taxes aren't as high as some places in the US - given how much it can vary by province.