Some quotes from Ronald Reagan

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    Feb 01, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
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    "Socialism only works
    in two places:
    Heaven where they don't
    need it and hell where they
    already have it."

    -Ronald Reagan


    'Here's my strategy on
    the Cold War:
    We win, they lose.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'The most terrifying words
    In the English language are:
    I'm from the government
    and I'm here to help.'

    -Ronald Reagan


    'The trouble with our liberal
    friends is not that they're
    ignorant; it's just that
    they know so much
    that isn't so.'

    -Ronald Reagan


    'Of the four wars in my
    lifetime, none came
    about because the
    U.S. was too strong.

    - Ronald Reagan


    'I have wondered at
    times about what the
    Ten Commandments would
    have looked like if Moses
    had run them through
    the U.S. Congress.

    -Ronald Reagan


    ‘The taxpayer’;
    That's someone who works
    For the federal government
    but doesn't have to take the
    civil service examination.

    - Ronald Reagan


    'Government is like a baby:
    An alimentary canal with a
    big appetite at one end and
    no sense of responsibility
    at the other'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'The nearest thing to eternal
    life we will ever see on
    this earth is a
    government program.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'It has been said that politics
    is the second oldest profession.
    I have learned that it bears a
    striking resemblance
    to the first'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'Government's view of
    the economy could be
    summed up in a few
    short phrases:
    If it moves, tax it.
    If it keeps moving,
    regulate it. And if it
    stops moving,
    subsidize it'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'Politics is not a bad
    profession. If you
    succeed, there are
    many rewards;
    if you disgrace yourself,
    you can always
    write a book.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'No arsenal, or no
    weapon in the arsenals
    of the world, is as
    formidable as the
    will and moral courage
    of free men and women.'

    - Ronald Reagan
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    Feb 01, 2012 1:51 PM GMT
    jpBITCHva saidThanks for reminding us what a silly old gasbag he was.

    There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't.
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    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva saidThanks for reminding us what a silly old gasbag he was.

    There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't.

    I've long since determined that conservatives----who have far more to learn than liberals do---won't learn anything ever. They consider it a sign of weakness.


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    Feb 01, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva saidThanks for reminding us what a silly old gasbag he was.

    There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't.


    Fortunately there are fewer and fewer with time.
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    Feb 01, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva saidThanks for reminding us what a silly old gasbag he was.

    There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't.

    I've long since determined that conservatives----who have far more to learn than liberals do---won't learn anything ever. They consider it a sign of weakness.

    Even on RJ the comparisons are fairly obvious. Not 100%, but in general liberal responses are often angry and emotional. No liberal has considered any relevance to the situations in Europe. Instead of seeing patterns, they look for specific differences in each country to claim no relevance to remain blind to the continual failure of liberalism. It is a defective ideology.
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    Feb 01, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    Saint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.
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    Feb 01, 2012 3:55 PM GMT
    Another blah blah liberals blah blah.

    Then pious outrage (presented as feigned disdain) when it is reciprocated with conservatives blah blah conservatives blah blah.

    Neither liberals or conservatives have all the answers.

    ...and Socal? This, " There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't. "


    ...is just the kind of thing you claimed in another topic you don't do.
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    Feb 01, 2012 3:56 PM GMT

    PS interesting that the honouralble Mr Reagan granted amnesty to all those illegals yet the same people that adore him freak out that Obama considered something similar.

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    Feb 01, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Hush... Don't confuse them with the facts. icon_wink.gif
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    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Yeah you've stated the costs, but ignore what he was able to achieve for them and the context in which he achieved these goals - the massive peace dividend, drove down inflation that allowed for a substantial productivity spurt, not to mention his presidency followed one that was a failure. The Reagan Presidency reversed a decade of stagnant growth, staggering inflation and moribund productivity. Even the amnesty today was considered compassionate - but also is now shown to be a failure - and precisely the reason why it is despised by Republicans today. At least Republicans seem to have learned from this failure while some liberals here seem to think that doing the same things over and over again will lead to something different.
  • nanidesukedo

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    Feb 01, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva said
    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva saidThanks for reminding us what a silly old gasbag he was.

    There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't.

    I've long since determined that conservatives----who have far more to learn than liberals do---won't learn anything ever. They consider it a sign of weakness.

    Even on RJ the comparisons are fairly obvious. Not 100%, but in general liberal responses are often angry and emotional. No liberal has considered any relevance to the situations in Europe. Instead of seeing patterns, they look for specific differences in each country to claim no relevance to remain blind to the continual failure of liberalism. It is a defective ideology.


    Your generalizations are angry and emotional...Also, you must consider that your own political spectrum's supporters commonly ignore facts, as well.

    Just remember, generalizations make you look ignorant when you say them. They also undermine every attempt you make to complain that liberals resort to name calling...Because, let's face it, that's what generalizations are: Name-calling.
  • KissTheSky

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    Feb 01, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Exactly right!
    When your deity can't join your church, maybe your church is wrong.
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:24 PM GMT
    'The trouble with our liberal
    friends is not that they're
    ignorant; it's just that
    they know so much
    that isn't so.'

    -Ronald Reagan

    "Socialism only works
    in two places:
    Heaven where they don't
    need it and hell where they
    already have it."

    -Ronald Reagan



    Genius.
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    KissTheSky said
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Exactly right!
    When your deity can't join your church, maybe your church is wrong.


    Again wrong - simply because of
    (a) productivity growth
    (b) massive reduction in inflation (which also drove up the debt)
    (c) ending the cold war
    (d) tax reform - which was an effective tax cut
    (e) corresponding massive decrease in interest rates
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:32 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    KissTheSky said
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Exactly right!
    When your deity can't join your church, maybe your church is wrong.


    Again wrong - simply because of
    (a) productivity growth
    (b) massive reduction in inflation (which also drove up the debt)
    (c) ending the cold war
    (d) tax reform - which was an effective tax cut
    (e) corresponding massive decrease in interest rates


    So, all of those sounds like good excuses...

    But, if we try to bust out the "Obama inherited a depression" You guys go "Excuse! Not Valid! EXCUUUUUSSSSEEE."

    The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
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    riddler78 saidYeah you've stated the costs, but ignore what he was able to achieve for them and the context in which he achieved these goals - the massive peace dividend, drove down inflation that allowed for a substantial productivity spurt, not to mention his presidency followed one that was a failure. The Reagan Presidency reversed a decade of stagnant growth, staggering inflation and moribund productivity. Even the amnesty today was considered compassionate - but also is now shown to be a failure - and precisely the reason why it is despised by Republicans today. At least Republicans seem to have learned from this failure while some liberals here seem to think that doing the same things over and over again will lead to something different.


    a decade that began w/ the Nixon Shock, and also included the OPEC embargo in response 2 the US's Operation Nickel Grass.
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:39 PM GMT
    nanidesukedo said
    riddler78 said
    KissTheSky said
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Exactly right!
    When your deity can't join your church, maybe your church is wrong.


    Again wrong - simply because of
    (a) productivity growth
    (b) massive reduction in inflation (which also drove up the debt)
    (c) ending the cold war
    (d) tax reform - which was an effective tax cut
    (e) corresponding massive decrease in interest rates


    So, all of those sounds like good excuses...

    But, if we try to bust out the "Obama inherited a depression" You guys go "Excuse! Not Valid! EXCUUUUUSSSSEEE."

    The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


    The problem as Tailgater highlights so eloquently, is the problem that Obama made things worse by not dealing with the problems but kicking the problems out with massive increases in debt. There's no hypocrisy here.
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    Feb 01, 2012 4:42 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    nanidesukedo said
    riddler78 said
    KissTheSky said
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Exactly right!
    When your deity can't join your church, maybe your church is wrong.


    Again wrong - simply because of
    (a) productivity growth
    (b) massive reduction in inflation (which also drove up the debt)
    (c) ending the cold war
    (d) tax reform - which was an effective tax cut
    (e) corresponding massive decrease in interest rates


    So, all of those sounds like good excuses...

    But, if we try to bust out the "Obama inherited a depression" You guys go "Excuse! Not Valid! EXCUUUUUSSSSEEE."

    The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


    The problem as Tailgater highlights so eloquently, is the problem that Obama made things worse by not dealing with the problems but kicking the problems out with massive increases in debt. There's no hypocrisy here.


    Again, I've posted multiple articles on it before, but you guys do what you do best and ignore facts:

    The problem wasn't that the stimulus was too large, it's that it wasn't large enough. Most economists think that the economy would've really tanked were it not for the stimulus. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to pass the necessary amount of stimulus, but he was able to at least prevent a complete collapse.
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    nanidesukedo said
    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva said
    socalfitness said
    jpBITCHva saidThanks for reminding us what a silly old gasbag he was.

    There is much liberals could learn from these quotes, but they can't and won't.

    I've long since determined that conservatives----who have far more to learn than liberals do---won't learn anything ever. They consider it a sign of weakness.

    Even on RJ the comparisons are fairly obvious. Not 100%, but in general liberal responses are often angry and emotional. No liberal has considered any relevance to the situations in Europe. Instead of seeing patterns, they look for specific differences in each country to claim no relevance to remain blind to the continual failure of liberalism. It is a defective ideology.


    Your generalizations are angry and emotional...Also, you must consider that your own political spectrum's supporters commonly ignore facts, as well.

    Just remember, generalizations make you look ignorant when you say them. They also undermine every attempt you make to complain that liberals resort to name calling...Because, let's face it, that's what generalizations are: Name-calling.

    If you think I'm angry and emotional, then you're not a good judge. Also, being considered ignorant by liberals is not a bad thing. Maybe, a matter of semantics but I don't equate generalizing with name-calling. I consider name-calling or ad hominems distincely different. Lastly, when I do make generalizations, I make it a point to say there are exceptions or not 100%. Sometimes generalizations are true.
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    Feb 01, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    Unless the derogatory generalizations are about conservatives, right Socal? Then they're wrong.
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    Feb 01, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidReceived from a friend - passing them on

    "Socialism only works
    in two places:
    Heaven where they don't
    need it and hell where they
    already have it."

    -Ronald Reagan


    'Here's my strategy on
    the Cold War:
    We win, they lose.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'The most terrifying words
    In the English language are:
    I'm from the government
    and I'm here to help.'

    -Ronald Reagan


    'The trouble with our liberal
    friends is not that they're
    ignorant; it's just that
    they know so much
    that isn't so.'

    -Ronald Reagan


    'Of the four wars in my
    lifetime, none came
    about because the
    U.S. was too strong.

    - Ronald Reagan


    'I have wondered at
    times about what the
    Ten Commandments would
    have looked like if Moses
    had run them through
    the U.S. Congress.

    -Ronald Reagan


    ‘The taxpayer’;
    That's someone who works
    For the federal government
    but doesn't have to take the
    civil service examination.

    - Ronald Reagan


    'Government is like a baby:
    An alimentary canal with a
    big appetite at one end and
    no sense of responsibility
    at the other'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'The nearest thing to eternal
    life we will ever see on
    this earth is a
    government program.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'It has been said that politics
    is the second oldest profession.
    I have learned that it bears a
    striking resemblance
    to the first'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'Government's view of
    the economy could be
    summed up in a few
    short phrases:
    If it moves, tax it.
    If it keeps moving,
    regulate it. And if it
    stops moving,
    subsidize it'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'Politics is not a bad
    profession. If you
    succeed, there are
    many rewards;
    if you disgrace yourself,
    you can always
    write a book.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    'No arsenal, or no
    weapon in the arsenals
    of the world, is as
    formidable as the
    will and moral courage
    of free men and women.'

    - Ronald Reagan


    Great man and great president.
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    Feb 01, 2012 5:22 PM GMT
    nanidesukedo said
    riddler78 said
    nanidesukedo said
    riddler78 said
    KissTheSky said
    DalTX saidSaint Ronnie raised the debt celining 18 times
    Saint Ronnie raised taxes 11 times
    Saint Ronnie gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
    Saint Ronnie nealy tripled the federal budget

    He wouldnt stand a chance in today's GOP.


    Exactly right!
    When your deity can't join your church, maybe your church is wrong.


    Again wrong - simply because of
    (a) productivity growth
    (b) massive reduction in inflation (which also drove up the debt)
    (c) ending the cold war
    (d) tax reform - which was an effective tax cut
    (e) corresponding massive decrease in interest rates


    So, all of those sounds like good excuses...

    But, if we try to bust out the "Obama inherited a depression" You guys go "Excuse! Not Valid! EXCUUUUUSSSSEEE."

    The hypocrisy is overwhelming.


    The problem as Tailgater highlights so eloquently, is the problem that Obama made things worse by not dealing with the problems but kicking the problems out with massive increases in debt. There's no hypocrisy here.


    Again, I've posted multiple articles on it before, but you guys do what you do best and ignore facts:

    The problem wasn't that the stimulus was too large, it's that it wasn't large enough. Most economists think that the economy would've really tanked were it not for the stimulus. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to pass the necessary amount of stimulus, but he was able to at least prevent a complete collapse.

    Seems like you're the one ignoring facts, and if you did post multiple articles you apparently were highly selective. The opinions by experts differ as to the significance of the stimulative effect, it's efficiency, e.g. dollars spent per job, and the long term effects, specifically the debt. Suggesting the issue has a simple answer does not promote credibility, if that is an objective.
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    Feb 01, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    meninlove said Unless the derogatory generalizations are about conservatives, right Socal? Then they're wrong.

    There are a couple of exceptions, but yes, you finally have it right.
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    Feb 01, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said Unless the derogatory generalizations are about conservatives, right Socal? Then they're wrong.

    There are a couple of exceptions, but yes, you finally have it right.


    I pray that you are being sarcastic...
    If not, you lose all credibility by stating negative generalizations about your group to be mostly false while also stating that negative generalizations about the opposing group to be mainly true.
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    Feb 01, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
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    meninlove said Unless the derogatory generalizations are about conservatives, right Socal? Then they're wrong.

    There are a couple of exceptions, but yes, you finally have it right.


    Lol, that was sarcasm. That you took it literally is rather telling.