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James Clementi: Letters to My Brother

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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 12:20 AM GMT
    I don't think this has been posted yet. This is really touching and quite sad, especially for those of us with gay siblings.


    When 18-year-old Tyler Clementi jumped to his death from the George Washington Bridge in September 2010, he became an overnight symbol of the fight against cyber-bullying and homophobia. Here, his older brother reclaims his memory from the headlines and pays tribute to his abbreviated life.

    http://www.out.com/news-commentary/2012/02/01/tyler-clementi-james-letters-my-brother
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 12:33 AM GMT
    txsoccers16 saidI don't think this has been posted yet. This is really touching and quite sad, especially for those of us with gay siblings.


    When 18-year-old Tyler Clementi jumped to his death from the George Washington Bridge in September 2010, he became an overnight symbol of the fight against cyber-bullying and homophobia. Here, his older brother reclaims his memory from the headlines and pays tribute to his abbreviated life.

    http://www.out.com/news-commentary/2012/02/01/tyler-clementi-james-letters-my-brother
    Nope.. you just posted it.. THANK YOU!
  • hallyhallo Posts: 539
    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 12:48 AM GMT
    very touching and amazing!
  • runnersjock Posts: 44
    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    This article really puts Tyler's many gifts and his brother's sorrow into perspective. I hope his brother will find some happiness and peace in his life.
  • TheIStrat Posts: 777
    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 1:16 AM GMT
    Very hard to read.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 1:48 AM GMT
    Thank you for posting this.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 1:52 AM GMT
    Stop posting this trash.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidStop posting this trash.
    Fuck you.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 2:15 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidStop posting this trash.



    ...said the purveyor of trash on RJ.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
    OP: Thanks for posting. If anyone is interested, I started a thread a couple of weeks ago consisting of a fictional account of his brother seeking help on Real Jock.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2127072/
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 2:22 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidOP: Thanks for posting. If anyone is interested, I started a thread a couple of weeks ago consisting of a fictional account of his brother seeking help on Real Jock.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2127072/



    Yes and it was probably one of the best topic/post I've read on RJ.

    -Doug
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 2:27 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    socalfitness saidOP: Thanks for posting. If anyone is interested, I started a thread a couple of weeks ago consisting of a fictional account of his brother seeking help on Real Jock.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2127072/

    Yes and it was probably one of the best topic/post I've read on RJ.

    -Doug

    Thanks very much.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    Thanks for posting that. Its sad that sometimes it takes smoething horrible liek a death to make you realize how much you love someone icon_cry.gif
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 3:12 AM GMT
    It was nice but I being the first male son born, then having 3 brothers born after I, who are either gay or bisexual. I can not say we are united in anyway as we are all very diffrent.

    So I must promote to those of you who think life would be better if your brother was gay, get over it's, because it may well not be the case.

    My brother born after me is a hick who has lived with one of his old teachers up in the hills hiding away, not facing the truth; yet we all know even when it's not talked about my anyone but I.

    My brother after him is a very spitful, nasty vindictive queen, who has always gone out of his way to do my life as much damage as possible. Because he is a red head, and I a blond, he was always jealous of the guys I dated, and always tryed to get them. Yet keeping his friends away from me not allowing them to speak with me. Any of my friends who did interact with him always come back with warnings of be careful of that one; oh but I know him well. Now he is dying of AIDS from a lifetime spent in public toilets, and wondering why he never met his one; as he posted on facebook.

    My last brother was the one I had always been very close to. Thats was until I was to find out about him batting for both teams; and he of all people could not stand the fact I knew his dirty little secrets, and after all the shit he gave me about being a poofter. He is now with his second wife, and hides her away from me, thus the truth for fear I may well informed her of the truth, and try to do to him as he has done to me. Lardy be if he ever wanted to come out and been seen as a poof; would I then have something to say; starting with what a selfish twat he really is; not the man he likes to see himself as at all.

    'So guys do not fool yourselves with delusions things would be better, if your siblings were gay things would be better. Because not all gays and bi's are the same, just as not all straight brothers get on, or are the same; in that we are no bloody diffrent.

    I know some person here with issues of hate, will want to point out about the fact I talked about having a brother who is a spitful nasty queen, and then point at me. Nope a long way off; and never have been one either, as I put counrty before self, and others in my job too.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 3:36 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said
    socalfitness saidOP: Thanks for posting. If anyone is interested, I started a thread a couple of weeks ago consisting of a fictional account of his brother seeking help on Real Jock.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2127072/

    Yes and it was probably one of the best topic/post I've read on RJ.

    -Doug

    Thanks very much.

    You're welcome; it's this greatness about you that I admire.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 7:47 AM GMT
    This was really touching. Thanks for sharing.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 7:58 AM GMT
    Incredible that a few short letters can reveal so much. Very moving! Thanks for sharing.

    As for Trueblueaussie... Apparently there's a Bad Gene rogue in your blood line... Thankfully you are all apparently gay and will not procreate. The world has been done a service this day.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 7:58 AM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidStop posting this trash.


    Shush child, the non-crazy grownups are talking about things that matter.


    To the OP: thanks for posting this
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 8:07 AM GMT
    A friend posted this and I pretty much bawled my eyes out while reading it.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 8:20 AM GMT
    very touching. and very heartbreaking. :'-(
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 10:18 AM GMT
    Wow. I could actually hear the lamentations of his soul through the power of his written words.

    Moving, touching, most heartfelt for a brother lost. Loved it.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 10:41 AM GMT
    Very heartbreaking and sweet and tender...


    As weird as what I am about to say is, I will still say it. Does anyone else think James could have been in love with his brother... I don't know why I think this it's just the vibe I get from the letters. That James not only loved Tyler as a brother but maybe more... or that's just my screwed up mind reading it that way
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 11:21 AM GMT
    graniteknighte saidVery heartbreaking and sweet and tender...


    As weird as what I am about to say is, I will still say it. Does anyone else think James could have been in love with his brother... I don't know why I think this it's just the vibe I get from the letters. That James not only loved Tyler as a brother but maybe more... or that's just my screwed up mind reading it that way


    Sorry, but I think it's your screwed up mind...

    Sometimes after a great loss - all of the things you wish you could have said about how much you love the person come out - it's a big outpouring and probably more over the top than if he were still alive. A lifetime of words that were never said.

    I can see how that might get misinterpreted - because as a culture we've become so used to looking for the dark side to everything that we miss the purity of this brother's tribute.
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
    onaquest said
    graniteknighte saidVery heartbreaking and sweet and tender...


    As weird as what I am about to say is, I will still say it. Does anyone else think James could have been in love with his brother... I don't know why I think this it's just the vibe I get from the letters. That James not only loved Tyler as a brother but maybe more... or that's just my screwed up mind reading it that way


    Sorry, but I think it's your screwed up mind.. .

    Sometimes after a great loss - all of the things you wish you could have said about how much you love the person come out - it's a big outpouring and probably more over the top than if he were still alive. A lifetime of words that were never said.

    I can see how that might get misinterpreted - because as a culture we've become so used to looking for the dark side to everything that we miss the purity of this brother's tribute.


    Wasn't looking for "darkness" at all I just read it as a longing- not just as a family but I read it as more... no conspiracy here just the thought that struck me
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    QUOTE Feb 02, 2012 12:46 PM GMT
    The problem with American (and yes, it's mostly American) society is the supremely rigid injunction against men bonding with other men, because of the bizarre fear of our own sex. American society distrusts any very deep emotional attachment between men in this way. We see men holding hands in the street, or kissing each other on the cheek, and it is immediately sexualized. Note that this type of emotional attachment is celebrated even in Muslim countries that penalize homosexuality.

    America has some fucked up baggage.

    I think your tendency to see romantic/erotic attachment from these letters is symptomatic of a socially ingrained homophobia.