Maya Calendar does NOT end in 2012

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    Feb 02, 2012 7:24 AM GMT
    This was probably chewed over a million times.. but I keep hearing this strange misconception about the Mayan calendar.. it does not END, but simply passes the 144.000 day mark.. in their numerical system it will be the date 13-0-0-0-0

    http://users.hartwick.edu/hartleyc/mayacalendar/mayacalendar.html

    I did not put this in the spirituality section.. because though all calendars are religious ones (including the western one, which is Christian) this theory is simply false... It is as if to say 1-1-2001 was "the end of the Christian calender" (creepy music).. it doesnt stop, it just resets at 1 ..

    Now whether that date of 1-1-1 had any spiritual significance is up to you.. just saying its NOT the end icon_smile.gif But a good excuse to have a party nonetheless

    Good day!
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    Feb 02, 2012 7:42 AM GMT
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  • calibro

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    Feb 02, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    that info is like whoa
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:06 PM GMT
    I never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
    MuscledHorse saidI never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif


    OMG, ALL this information is incorrect

    1) Its the Maya calendar we speak of, NOT the Aztecs

    2) They NEVER predicted the end of the world.. that is some media hype

    3) They DID predict the coming of the European and the destruction of the Americas... all of them did.. the Mayas, the Aztecs, the Navajo, the Caribbean tribes.. they ALL had predictions of a god-like human with much power and heavily clothed and bearded to come from the west which would conquer them....

    I do not understand. How is this not common knowledge?? In my country.. this is elementary school stuff !! Ive known pretty much all of the above since I was ten... we all do here
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:23 PM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    MuscledHorse saidI never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif


    OMG, ALL this information is incorrect

    1) Its the Maya calendar we speak of, NOT the Aztecs

    2) They NEVER predicted the end of the world.. that is some media hype

    3) They DID predict the coming of the European and the destruction of the Americas... all of them did.. the Mayas, the Aztecs, the Navajo, the Caribbean tribes.. they ALL had predictions of a god-like human with much power and heavily clothed and bearded to come from the west which would conquer them....

    I do not understand. How is this not common knowledge?? In my country.. this is elementary school stuff !! Ive known pretty much all of the above since I was ten... we all do here


    Well in my country, we have MTV which (WAS) way better than social studies
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:25 PM GMT
    Oh good! I've can start planning stuff for 2013 now. Whew! What a relief!
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
    GaymerMikey said
    GreenHopper said
    MuscledHorse saidI never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif


    OMG, ALL this information is incorrect

    1) Its the Maya calendar we speak of, NOT the Aztecs

    2) They NEVER predicted the end of the world.. that is some media hype

    3) They DID predict the coming of the European and the destruction of the Americas... all of them did.. the Mayas, the Aztecs, the Navajo, the Caribbean tribes.. they ALL had predictions of a god-like human with much power and heavily clothed and bearded to come from the west which would conquer them....

    I do not understand. How is this not common knowledge?? In my country.. this is elementary school stuff !! Ive known pretty much all of the above since I was ten... we all do here


    Well in my country, we have MTV which (WAS) way better than social studies



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    Feb 02, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
    miamimasseur said
    GaymerMikey said
    GreenHopper said
    MuscledHorse saidI never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif


    OMG, ALL this information is incorrect

    1) Its the Maya calendar we speak of, NOT the Aztecs

    2) They NEVER predicted the end of the world.. that is some media hype

    3) They DID predict the coming of the European and the destruction of the Americas... all of them did.. the Mayas, the Aztecs, the Navajo, the Caribbean tribes.. they ALL had predictions of a god-like human with much power and heavily clothed and bearded to come from the west which would conquer them....

    I do not understand. How is this not common knowledge?? In my country.. this is elementary school stuff !! Ive known pretty much all of the above since I was ten... we all do here


    Well in my country, we have MTV which (WAS) way better than social studies



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    lol indeed! icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 02, 2012 2:56 PM GMT
    GaymerMikey said
    GreenHopper said
    MuscledHorse saidI never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif


    OMG, ALL this information is incorrect

    1) Its the Maya calendar we speak of, NOT the Aztecs

    2) They NEVER predicted the end of the world.. that is some media hype

    3) They DID predict the coming of the European and the destruction of the Americas... all of them did.. the Mayas, the Aztecs, the Navajo, the Caribbean tribes.. they ALL had predictions of a god-like human with much power and heavily clothed and bearded to come from the west which would conquer them....

    I do not understand. How is this not common knowledge?? In my country.. this is elementary school stuff !! Ive known pretty much all of the above since I was ten... we all do here


    Well in my country, we have MTV which (WAS) way better than social studies


    Sorry. My error! I know the Aztecs and Myans are idfferent and simply wasn't paying attention when I typed that. I did NOT know, however, that they had predicted the coming of the Europeans.
  • Sk8Tex

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    Feb 02, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
    Or maybe the Mayans just ran out of rock to carve on..

    Of course its the last year on Earth, because a calendar made somewhere around the year 3000BC has JUST NOW been cracked in the last year by our advancing intellects and technology and just so happens it ends RIGHT NOW dun dun dun...

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    ..and didn't the Mayans actually have 3 calendars?
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    Feb 02, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    MuscledHorse said
    GaymerMikey said
    GreenHopper said
    MuscledHorse saidI never understood why people gave the notion any serious thought as it has been presented in the popular press. I mean they think the Aztecs could see the end of the world but yet somehow they were unable to see the coming destruction from the Europeans. Seriously?? icon_razz.gif


    OMG, ALL this information is incorrect

    1) Its the Maya calendar we speak of, NOT the Aztecs

    2) They NEVER predicted the end of the world.. that is some media hype

    3) They DID predict the coming of the European and the destruction of the Americas... all of them did.. the Mayas, the Aztecs, the Navajo, the Caribbean tribes.. they ALL had predictions of a god-like human with much power and heavily clothed and bearded to come from the west which would conquer them....

    I do not understand. How is this not common knowledge?? In my country.. this is elementary school stuff !! Ive known pretty much all of the above since I was ten... we all do here


    Well in my country, we have MTV which (WAS) way better than social studies


    Sorry. My error! I know the Aztecs and Myans are idfferent and simply wasn't paying attention when I typed that. I did NOT know, however, that they had predicted the coming of the Europeans.


    O ok sorry, I was being impatient as well.. my bad.. Ive heard so much to this subject circulating I get frustrated explaining it icon_razz.gif

    So the examples: the Taino of Puerto Rico and other islands had tales of a clothed people that would rule them and cause much death among them.. a story noted down in 1496, just years after contact was made:

    [url]http://books.google.com/books?id=Qy8LESKyJS0C&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=taino+clothed+people&source=bl&ots=Rrn-62xP3m&sig=ZqIm7eddjmoNYIO4VLGzItCsEeQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=PagqT8SkFvGu2gXo3MHyDg&sqi=2&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=taino%20clothed%20people&f=false[/url]

    The Aztec and Toltec tales were of a god, white, with a beard, who would return from the east.. (sorry, I had the direction wrong) the Mayas prophesied the 16th century would bring much war and disease from the "white men"

    http://bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/mayan.htm

    The Navajo indians speak of a trickster god who would return to take revenge.. he is said to have left uttering the word "a-di-os" among their legends.. the first whites to enter Navajo land were spanish, and so they believed this was their prophecy coming true... The Hopi legends speak of four main "tribes" of people... the purple corn tribe, the red corn tribe, the yellow corn tribe, and the white corn tribe (nowadays interpreted as Africans, Aryans, Asians, and Americans)... one story goes that if the white tribe would come and if they had remembered the human brotherhood.. they would create a world based on peace... if the white tribe had forgotton their human brotherhood, however, it meant bad times...

    So most tribes said the white gods would come from the east... many also never opposed them because they believed them to be gods, or because the priests advised them not to fight the white men.. there are many reasons, but the stories of an alien race entering the continent and heavily impacting the world, either positively, if done in good spirit and an enlightened fashion, or negatively, if in bad spirit, can be found in plentiful new world cultures.......

    One the one hand, this was unfortunate.. the belief in the powerful, divine invader led many peoples to try to win over the invader by welcoming them and letting them enter into their villages.. once they saw that the Europeans were only after gold, they usually would send them away... or they would turn to the European side to win over neighbouring tribes that they were at war with (for example, the Mayans and the Aztecs, who absolutely hated each other haha).. on the other hand.. we dont know what would have happened if they had NOT tried to welcome such a powerful invader really... they might have had even more bloodshed had they not been open to their plentiful prophecies .. we'll never know that I guess...

    On the plus-side.. most of the prophecies said that there will be a time of peace and harmony on earth after a period of much war and disease.. most cultures have such prophecies.. even the Christian ones.. this is where, I believe, most of the hype about the "end of the world" comes from.. and for safety's sake, perhaps everybody is pinning all these prophecies on the Mayan calendar... but the stories of a time of "heaven on earth" are pretty much universal, but they also always say that the danger is that we destroy ourselves completely before that happens

    In all honesty, I think most of these end-of-the-world stories are pretty much true for our present times.. we as humans have had the unprecedented power of destroying our planet and ourselves several times over ever since the 20th century.. all throughout the 20th century movements against global armament and environmental destruction have begun to crop up left and right.. mostly in response to the perceived danger of self-destruction... In that sense.. the prophecies were right on the money.... once the human race begins to perceive its power and the danger it puts itself in, it has little choice but to build this so-called "paradise-on-earth" that the stories are all about, lest it disappears directly into oblivion on its own accord through war and waste





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    Feb 02, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    well the world didnt end and it doesnt seem like its gonna end any time soon either so, new explanations to the Mayan calendar should be considered.

    just sayin
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    Feb 02, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    Sk8Tex saidOr maybe the Mayans just ran out of rock to carve on..

    Of course its the last year on Earth, because a calendar made somewhere around the year 3000BC has JUST NOW been cracked in the last year by our advancing intellects and technology and just so happens it ends RIGHT NOW dun dun dun...

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    ..and didn't the Mayans actually have 3 calendars?


    Yes they do.. this is the long count we speak of icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
    It doesn't really matter when it ends because none of it is real anyways. The world won't end untill the sun will swallow it :p.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:05 PM GMT
    *insert quintessential political joke here*
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:05 PM GMT
    dragers saidIt doesn't really matter when it ends because none of it is real anyways. The world won't end untill the sun will swallow it :p.


    Haha.. that is true.. though I think it is symbolically true, as I explained above, considering the current state of the human race and the danger of self-dstruction which exists now and can only be avoided through a fundamental change in thinking and behaviour.. with greed and aggression necessarily giving way to a more peaceful, harmonious way of life, or else icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:11 PM GMT
    dragers saidIt doesn't really matter when it ends because none of it is real anyways. The world won't end untill the sun will swallow it :p.

    Actually, that's incorrect. The sun will burn itself out and Earth will become a frozen, barren planet but don't worry, we'll blow the planet to bits before that ever happens.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:19 PM GMT
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    dragers saidIt doesn't really matter when it ends because none of it is real anyways. The world won't end untill the sun will swallow it :p.

    Actually, that's incorrect. The sun will burn itself out and Earth will become a frozen, barren planet but don't worry, we'll blow the planet to bits before that ever happens.


    Lol thats pretty much what this was all about.. trying NOT to do that haha
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:25 PM GMT
    There are no Mayans in existence today. Many claim they are Mayans - but that's the same romanticized BS as the Irish claiming to be Celtic.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:27 PM GMT
    I liked Apocalypto

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    Feb 02, 2012 4:37 PM GMT
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    dragers saidIt doesn't really matter when it ends because none of it is real anyways. The world won't end untill the sun will swallow it :p.

    Actually, that's incorrect. The sun will burn itself out and Earth will become a frozen, barren planet but don't worry, we'll blow the planet to bits before that ever happens.


    The sun will burn itself out indeed, in the process of burning itself out it will start using the hydrogen around it's shell, meaning it will expand and eventually swallow the earth. so before the sun dies it will grow it's way closer to earth and drag it to it's shell leaving the earth vaporized.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    I think we already knew the crazy doomsays were wrong and crazy without this nugget of information.

    Its not like the belief that the world will end in 2012 would be valid if the Mayan calendar did end in 2012. Its still just batshit crazy nonsense.
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    Feb 02, 2012 4:47 PM GMT
    who gives a shit when the Mayan calendar ends.....

    they're wrong anyway.

    2012. The year we all LOL at the Mayans.