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Being Black and Gay is (so f**king) hard AND What is your relationship with your biological brothers (or sisters) ?

  • k777 Posts: 51
    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:00 AM GMT
    I truly deters my self esteem whenever I have to deal with people who dont like me based on my skin color (like people in my high-school in 200, but why do some (straight) black guys feel the need to tell me that Im "not actually black" or im an "oreo" just because I have a high voice and I actually like doing well in school?

    I haven't had to deal with this for a while (I graduated HS and got accepted to Cornell University at 2009) but still! It hurts me how some of my "own kind" hurt me!

    Even to this day, my own (younger) brother-hes 14-doesnt want to do anything with me. And im pretty sure its because I am gay

    If anyone wants to talk about either subject please go right ahead
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
    Can't help you , but Happy Black History month!!!
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
    The world needs more people like me who don't care what age/ethnicity/class/gender/sexual orientation someone is because they realize that people who base their judgments on such shallow characteristics are fucking idiots.
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    jmusmc85 saidCan't help you , but Happy Black History month!!!
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
    Meh, I've been called "white washed" a handful of times. It doesn't really bother me.

    I have a pretty good relationship with my (straight) brother. We don't get to see each other in person often, but we play online video games together and regularly chat via Skype. He pokes fun at my being gay, and I promptly remind him that HE'S the brother in the female-dominated nursing profession who has a closet twice the size of my own filled with clothes and shoes.
  • MsclDrew Posts: 4107
    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
    Try being a WASP and gay...

    It's exactly the same except all spiteful passive aggressive resentment, snide comments and back stabbing...
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    MsclDrew saidTry being a WASP and gay...
    It's exactly the same except all spiteful passive aggressive resentment, snide comments and back stabbing...
    Also you're white instead of black so..........
  • MsclDrew Posts: 4107
    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 12:29 AM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 3:02 AM GMT
    MsclDrew saidTry being a WASP and gay...

    It's exactly the same except all spiteful passive aggressive resentment, snide comments and back stabbing...


    Oh, I get it...you're trying to be ironic. Fail.
  • araphael Posts: 1148
    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 3:11 AM GMT
    To understand African Americans and their resistance to homosexuality, you must understand the ancient African culture from which our heritage derived. Ancient, and modern to much extent, African culture is vehemently against what it deems "unnatural." You have to remember that for centuries Africans had civilizations that were highly developed and it all stemmed from their religions. Religion is at the core of African culture and its main purpose is the preservation of the society. Homosexuality appears to be at odds with this ancient African precept. So, do not look for any great change on this front any time soon. The upside is that African culture also understands and accepts difference in nature, we are the most in tuned with nature of all peoples on the earth, so you can be accepted and loved for who you are naturally but not approved of in your natural behavior. To an outsider this may seem kinda contradictory, but it's not. The gazelle may accept that the lion naturally wants to eat him, but that doesn't mean the gazelle approves of this fact, lol.
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 4:24 AM GMT
    Yeah, it can be rough. But not all black people are like that, but as you get to know more black guys and girls you will see that there are cool groups that do not shun you for stepping outside of the box.

    Look at Andre 3000 or Pharrell aka Skateboard P Williams. Both of them are respected, and aren't shunned.

    Keep doing you, and say, fuck 'em. My oldest brother is gay, and he is cool. A little different, but we have a cool relationship.
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 4:52 AM GMT
    I totally understand where the OP is commin from tho....they r all locked into this actin hard bullshit that when they see a real example of what the quintessential black man was designed to be( smart, confident instead of cocky, and a general presence worthy of respect as opposed to domineering and obnoxious) who dosent fall into the ni66a box, they all fuckin trip out! Im not 100% AA but i identify with the culture b/c thats where i grew up and Ive been able to beat odds that werent in my favor like the OP (well done on Cornell sir ) and Ive been able to get out and see that the world beyond my project is IN NO WAY the same as the fuckedupness of the hood. It pisses me off that "WE" can treat ourselves like crabs in a damn bucket and then have the nerve to allow a money-cars-and-hoes mentality prevail when we cant keep our shit together as a community, society or just people in general long enough to get out of squalor in the first place.
    As far as being gay..... u can forget that shit cause somebody always got something to say and whether it be religion or some other dumb ass exclusion based mind set, people r always going to know better than you whats the best for you. Tell you what, how bout u mind your own damn business and do something other than hustle and hoe to feed your 5 kids and i'll mind mine while i focus on getting a second degree. As for religion, I recommend u read a passage that alludes to the removal of the log from ones own eye before commin at me sideways cause it aint happenin, this one learned how to deal at an early age and will be dead before i let one more person tell me who i can, cant, am supposed to, or not to be.
    P.S. my apologies for the rant but FUCK DEM HOEZ!!
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    Ugh I know. I hate it when my "own kind" hurt me
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    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 5:00 AM GMT
    araphael saidTo understand African Americans and their resistance to homosexuality, you must understand the ancient African culture from which our heritage derived. Ancient, and modern to much extent, African culture is vehemently against what it deems "unnatural." ....


    I feel the need to mention the fact that some African witchdoctors tell young men infected with aids that the cure is to have sex with a virgin which ,besides being completely untrue, spreads the disease via the rape of innocent individuals who now have a present that they neither asked for nor are able to return to sender. That being said, heritage aint everything....Unnatural ::scoff::
  • Webster666 Posts: 8609
    QUOTE Feb 03, 2012 7:29 AM GMT
    Perhaps I am mistaken, but that seems analogous to me expecting that all white people will love me and accept me...

    BTW, I have a gay brother, and we can't stand each other. LOL.

    Also, don't change anything about yourself.
    Lots of people love you (and will love you) just the way you are.

    Awwwwwww.