Heath Shuler, Moderate Democrat from North Carolina, Announces He Won’t Seek 4th Term

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    Feb 03, 2012 7:12 AM GMT
    Another blow to Christian's technicolor dreams.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/shuler-announces-he-wont-seek-4th-term/

    He’s the sixth member of the moderate Blue Dog coalition to retire heading into the 2012 election cycle. Twenty-eight Blue Dogs were defeated in 2010, demonstrating how difficult it can be to stay in office as a moderate in an increasingly partisan Congress.
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    Feb 03, 2012 8:30 AM GMT
    Because...?
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    Feb 03, 2012 10:55 AM GMT
    Wonder if he will reconsider that gubernatorial run again now that Bev Perdue is not seeking re-election. Shuler represented the western NC area (Asheville) just across the state line from Tenn. where he played college football. It is a conservative area and I think he should run for governor. Actually, Governor Shuler DOES have a nice ring to it!!
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    Feb 03, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
    If the Democrats get their butts kicked in November, I think the moderates will reassert themselves and take the party on more of a mainstream path.

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    During his 2010 campaign, Shuler showed interest in taking the place of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, if Democrats maintained their majority. On November 4, after Republicans had won a majority of seats in the upcoming Congress, Shuler predicted Pelosi would no longer be a leader in the House. However, if Pelosi wanted to take the minority leader position, Shuler told Roll Call, he would run against her if there were no "viable candidate".[28]

    As expected, Pelosi did run for minority leader, and on November 14, Shuler told CNN he would run against her, though he doubted he would win.[29] Shuler lost to Pelosi 150-43 on November 17, but he was pleased that moderate Democrats showed they must be dealt with.[30] On the opening day of the 112th Congress, Shuler received 11 votes for Speaker of the House, which his political aide called "the most dissenting votes recorded in modern history for partisan defections during a vote for Speaker" [31] (Since 1925 [32]).
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    Feb 03, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidIf the Democrats get their butts kicked in November, I think the moderates will reassert themselves and take the party on more of a mainstream path.

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    During his 2010 campaign, Shuler showed interest in taking the place of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, if Democrats maintained their majority. On November 4, after Republicans had won a majority of seats in the upcoming Congress, Shuler predicted Pelosi would no longer be a leader in the House. However, if Pelosi wanted to take the minority leader position, Shuler told Roll Call, he would run against her if there were no "viable candidate".[28]

    As expected, Pelosi did run for minority leader, and on November 14, Shuler told CNN he would run against her, though he doubted he would win.[29] Shuler lost to Pelosi 150-43 on November 17, but he was pleased that moderate Democrats showed they must be dealt with.[30] On the opening day of the 112th Congress, Shuler received 11 votes for Speaker of the House, which his political aide called "the most dissenting votes recorded in modern history for partisan defections during a vote for Speaker" [31] (Since 1925 [32]).


    When are the moderates in the Republican Party going to reassert themselves? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 03, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
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    socalfitness saidIf the Democrats get their butts kicked in November, I think the moderates will reassert themselves and take the party on more of a mainstream path.

    Following from Wikipedia:

    During his 2010 campaign, Shuler showed interest in taking the place of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, if Democrats maintained their majority. On November 4, after Republicans had won a majority of seats in the upcoming Congress, Shuler predicted Pelosi would no longer be a leader in the House. However, if Pelosi wanted to take the minority leader position, Shuler told Roll Call, he would run against her if there were no "viable candidate".[28]

    As expected, Pelosi did run for minority leader, and on November 14, Shuler told CNN he would run against her, though he doubted he would win.[29] Shuler lost to Pelosi 150-43 on November 17, but he was pleased that moderate Democrats showed they must be dealt with.[30] On the opening day of the 112th Congress, Shuler received 11 votes for Speaker of the House, which his political aide called "the most dissenting votes recorded in modern history for partisan defections during a vote for Speaker" [31] (Since 1925 [32]).


    When are the moderates in the Republican Party going to reassert themselves? icon_rolleyes.gif

    Maybe you haven't been following the news for the past several months, but the likely Republican nominee happens to be considered moderate. I also think if the Democrats become more moderate, that will help the moderates on the right. Reason is the moderates who tend Republican would have an option if the party went too far right, and the party would not want to lose them.
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    Feb 03, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
    Socal said, "I also think if the Democrats become more moderate, that will help the moderates on the right.."

    Back to the 'you have to go first' thing. If you think the Democratic party should be more moderate, lead by example, which so far I'm not seeing from outside your box.

    Signed public pledges to investigate gays etc are hardly being moderate.

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    Feb 03, 2012 4:53 PM GMT
    meninlove said Socal said, "I also think if the Democrats become more moderate, that will help the moderates on the right.."

    Back to the 'you have to go first' thing. If you think the Democratic party should be more moderate, lead by example, which so far I'm not seeing from outside your box.

    Signed public pledges to investigate gays etc are hardly being moderate.

    The most obvious thing I mentioned to Christian is the emergence of the likely Republican candidate considered a moderate. I cannot imagine how you could not see that. And this candidate will get broad support from across the spectrum of the party. The pledge is a compromise he had to make to get the support, but there is no indication that he would have the zeal to pursue that and go around Congress. Also, from his record in Massachusetts, he worked in a bipartisan manner. Maybe not a Huntsman that the liberals would have approved of, but a step nevertheless.