Intelligence study links low I.Q. to conservatism.

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    Feb 04, 2012 10:18 PM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

    Best study ever.

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    Feb 04, 2012 10:26 PM GMT
    Since whenicon_question.gif I wouldn't believe everything that comes out of the Huffington Post. But you are a blind sycophant that will believe any extremist leftist propaganda even if it is proven wrong.
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    I don't like these inaccurate studies, either about conservatives or liberals etc.

    -Doug

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    Feb 04, 2012 10:32 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidSince whenicon_question.gif I wouldn't believe everything that comes out of the Huffington Post. But you are a blind sycophant that will believe any extremist leftist propaganda even if it is proven wrong.
    Are you saying you have evidence to support that this study is wrong?
    The Huffington Post is not the only source.
    How about The Globe and Mail?

    Besides, you're living proof that the study is right.
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:36 PM GMT
    Anduru, you are a damned fool.
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:39 PM GMT
    meninlove said I don't like these inaccurate studies, either about conservatives or liberals etc.
    -Doug
    Why?

    Let's take a look at all the brilliant conservative leaders we've seen:
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    They're absolutely the cream of the crop, aren't they?
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:40 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidAnduru, you are a damned fool.
    My 8 year old brother can provide a better argument than you can.
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:47 PM GMT
    The very same article appeared in the UK newspaper The Daily Mail which is a centre-right wing paper supporting the Conservative Party.

    I have observed over the years of English football (soccer) violence in our stadiums, particularly during international matches.

    A also looked into the likes of the British National Party (BNP). The majority of BNP members are from the working class, with a major group based at Dagenham, East London, home of the Ford car production company. The vast majority of voters for the BNP took place at an industrial town (thus predominantly working class) of Bradford, where there is a growing population of Asian immigrants settling there.

    And for the English soccer fans, nearly all have a working class background.

    Working class - in the UK, it's someone who does not have, or have a very limited academic qualities and therefore tend to earn his living engaged at a manual occupation.

    There are some pen-pushers who are biased or hold nationalistic prejudices. But they tend to stay out of the way when racial tension erupts, in my belief, to keep their reputations and consequently, their careers, clean.
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:52 PM GMT
    Anduru saidThey're absolutely the cream of the crop, aren't they?

    It's indisputable that US Conservatives are morons. I'm just surprised to hear it said by you.

    Believe it or not, I used to correspond with Conservative icon William S. Buckley, Jr. in the early 1970s. Brilliant though he was, his thinking was appallingly 1-dimensional. I remember it being said that he had one of the best minds of the 14th Century.

    But your own critical position regarding Conservatism astonishes me. Is this a parody, some kind of joke?
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidIt's indisputable that US Conservatives are morons. I'm just surprised to hear it said by you.
    Believe it or not, I used to correspond with Conservative icon William S. Buckley, Jr. in the early 1970s. Brilliant though he was, his thinking was appallingly 1-dimensional. I remember it being said that he had one of the best minds of the 14th Century.
    But your own critical position regarding Conservatism astonishes me. Is this a parody, some kind of joke?
    Why are you surprised to hear it from me? Aren't I the first person you would expect it from?
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    Feb 04, 2012 10:55 PM GMT
    The only thing inaccurate about this study is it's assumption of all conservatives being social conservatives.

    I have met many fiscal conservatives whom vehemently disagree with the large portion of their parties stance on social issues. For the republicans, the current cream of the crop doesn't represent the party well at all when it comes to social issues, but I can understand how it is frustrating for some conservative fellows to be lumped into this category of bigotry.

    There is an incredibly broad range of ideologies within and between liberal and conservative. People need to stop making assumptions about them that type-cast everyone under the umbrella of either of these words.

    Point being... if you want to call someone an idiot, call them out not because they're conservative and some study has decided to type-cast the entire conservative population as stupid, but because they have some backasswards, primal view of marriage or equivalent rights.

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    Feb 04, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    Art_Deco saidIt's indisputable that US Conservatives are morons. I'm just surprised to hear it said by you.
    Believe it or not, I used to correspond with Conservative icon William S. Buckley, Jr. in the early 1970s. Brilliant though he was, his thinking was appallingly 1-dimensional. I remember it being said that he had one of the best minds of the 14th Century.
    But your own critical position regarding Conservatism astonishes me. Is this a parody, some kind of joke?
    Why are you surprised to hear it from me? Aren't I the first person you would expect it from?

    Not at all.
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    MTNow saidPoint being... if you want to call someone an idiot, call them out not because they're conservative and some study has decided to type-cast the entire conservative population as stupid, but because they have some backasswards, primal view of marriage or equivalent rights.
    I see your point... but have you seen roadbikeRob's argument against breastfeeding? icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Anduru saidWhy are you surprised to hear it from me? Aren't I the first person you would expect it from?
    Not at all.
    Why not?
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:09 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    Art_Deco said
    Anduru saidWhy are you surprised to hear it from me? Aren't I the first person you would expect it from?
    Not at all.
    Why not?

    Possibly for aligning yourself with my fanatical right-wing opponents here in the past, and for attacking me personally. But aside from that, such a complex political position is much more than I thought you were capable of possessing. I still think this is a joke and a trap. You'll forgive if I stand off for bit, and wait to see how this plays out.
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:18 PM GMT
    It's common to study education and political views in social science studies. I think someone just got a hold of this and blew it out of proportion.

    He published a similar article a few years ago and this is a revised version.

    Hodson 2012Despite their important implications for interpersonal behaviors and relations, cognitive abilities have been largely ignored as explanations of prejudice. We proposed and tested mediation models in which lower cognitive ability predicts greater prejudice, an effect mediated through the endorsement of right-wing ideologies (social conservatism, right-wing authoritarianism) and low levels of contact with out-groups. In an analysis of two large-scale, nationally representative United Kingdom data sets (N = 15,874), we found that lower general intelligence (g) in childhood predicts greater racism in adulthood, and this effect was largely mediated via conservative ideology. A secondary analysis of a U.S. data set confirmed a predictive effect of poor abstract-reasoning skills on antihomosexual prejudice, a relation partially mediated by both authoritarianism and low levels of intergroup contact. All analyses controlled for education and socioeconomic status. Our results suggest that cognitive abilities play a critical, albeit underappreciated, role in prejudice. Consequently, we recommend a heightened focus on cognitive ability in research on prejudice and a better integration of cognitive ability into prejudice models.


    The focus of the study was on conservative philosophy, which by definition is susceptible to prejudice because of its "status quo" principles. Its also very important to note this study was done in the UK, where conservative politics are quite different from U.S politics.

    Either way, this study is essentially useless. Its just republished data and in my opinion commonsense that those people who are unwilling to consider alternatives and are happy falling back on heuristics and their own in-group opinions have lower IQs and cognitive ability. There are plenty of polarizing Democrats that would qualify here as well. Intelligence comes from exposure to difference and a lot of people in my country simply don't have that experience.

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    Feb 04, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    Anduru said
    Art_Deco said
    Anduru saidWhy are you surprised to hear it from me? Aren't I the first person you would expect it from?
    Not at all.
    Why not?

    Possibly for aligning yourself with my fanatical right-wing opponents here in the past, and for attacking me personally. But aside from that, such a complex political position is much more than I thought you were capable of possessing. I still think this is a joke and a trap. You'll forgive if I stand off for bit, and wait to see how this plays out.


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    Feb 04, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    Possibly for aligning yourself with my fanatical right-wing opponents here in the past, and for attacking me personally. But aside from that, such a complex political position is much more than I thought you were capable of possessing. I still think this is a joke and a trap. You'll forgive if I stand off for bit, and wait to see how this plays out.


    You have no opponents here, dear "Colonel" Deco. Clearly you are inebriated once again... ("a joke and a trap!")



    When has Anduru - of ALL people - alligned himself witht he radical fanatical right-wing ANYthing?!?!?!
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:28 PM GMT
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    Interestingly enough, I've heard it said that Canadian conservatives are further to left (generally) than most US liberals ...

    Therefore, by this rubric we here in the USA are fucked coming and going even if the Democrats had complete control of the government, for they'd all be a bunch of morons.

    Oh wait, they are moronically entrenched in their wannabe socialist thinking, and they fucked up the economy even worse than the Bush Era GOP government-plex by sinking us even deeper into debt.

    Which by no means exonerates the insanity of the GOP that pissed away the Clinton Era budget surplus.

    D'oh.
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:30 PM GMT
    MTNow saidThe only thing inaccurate about this study is it's assumption of all conservatives being social conservatives.

    I have met many fiscal conservatives whom vehemently disagree with the large portion of their parties stance on social issues. For the republicans, the current cream of the crop doesn't represent the party well at all when it comes to social issues, but I can understand how it is frustrating for some conservative fellows to be lumped into this category of bigotry.

    There is an incredibly broad range of ideologies within and between liberal and conservative. People need to stop making assumptions about them that type-cast everyone under the umbrella of either of these words.

    Point being... if you want to call someone an idiot, call them out not because they're conservative and some study has decided to type-cast the entire conservative population as stupid, but because they have some backasswards, primal view of marriage or equivalent rights.



    ^This. And what adam228 said.
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    Possibly for aligning yourself with my fanatical right-wing opponents here in the past, and for attacking me personally. But aside from that, such a complex political position is much more than I thought you were capable of possessing. I still think this is a joke and a trap. You'll forgive if I stand off for bit, and wait to see how this plays out.

    You have no opponents here, dear "Colonel" Deco. Clearly you are inebriated once again... ("a joke and a trap!")

    Please provide the proof that I am "clearly inebriated." Or else, as meninlove so accurately terms you, you are the Great Liar.
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    AlphaTrigger said{photo of His Excellency the Mayor of Toronto}

    Interestingly enough, I've heard it said that Canadian conservatives are further to left (generally) than most US liberals ...

    Therefore, by this rubric we here in the USA are fucked coming and going even if the Democrats had complete control of the government, for they'd all be a bunch of morons.

    Oh wait, they are moronically entrenched in their wannabe socialist thinking, and they fucked up the economy even worse than the Bush Era GOP government-plex by sinking us even deeper into debt.

    Which by no means exonerates the insanity of the GOP that pissed away the Clinton Era budget surplus.

    D'oh.


    Do not confuse issues, with the conservative mindset(resistance to change and a preference for tradition.)

    The specifics vary by country; the underlying philsophy is the same.

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    Feb 04, 2012 11:40 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    Possibly for aligning yourself with my fanatical right-wing opponents here in the past, and for attacking me personally. But aside from that, such a complex political position is much more than I thought you were capable of possessing. I still think this is a joke and a trap. You'll forgive if I stand off for bit, and wait to see how this plays out.

    You have no opponents here, dear "Colonel" Deco. Clearly you are inebriated once again... ("a joke and a trap!")

    Please provide the proof that I am "clearly inebriated." Or else, as meninlove so accurately terms you, you are the Great Liar.


    Well, here's a little proof that you were either inebriated or just a bigot and a racist when you wrote this:


    Art_Deco said Muslims have no business being within 100 miles of the WTC. In fact, as avowed enemies of everything the US stands for, the vast majority proponents of our destruction as a Democratic nation, I don't think they should be in this country at all.



    Art_Deco said

    Therefore, I see no contradiction is denying Muslims citizenship in the US, since they deny the basic tenets of individual freedom that our Constitution guarantees. Why should we allow citizenship & residency to people who wish the overthrow of our Constitution?

    To me this is quite logical.



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    You have really got to stop re-hashing that.

    As I recall he apologized for his anti-Muslim rants and really, they should be left in the past.

    Bad enough they will be in print on the internetz in perpetuity.

    Make fun of his many other blithering diatribes if you must. Take pot shots at his fashion choices - MuMus-R-Us anyone?

    But ENOUGH with THAT.

    Face facts SouthBeach - you couldn't care less about the feelings of our Muslim brethren. You only use that rant in order to justify your own.

    And they are both tedious, dull, backwards and tired.
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    Feb 04, 2012 11:42 PM GMT
    Art isn't drunk (that is obviously noticeable online, lol...) but he is deeply suspicious of anything that is outside of his box of PC liberal hive-think.

    Anything not in that box must be a lie of the devil, amirite, Art?

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    Feb 04, 2012 11:49 PM GMT
    @UpperCdn:

    I'd like to see "conservative" as less about fear and resistance to change", than a slow, measured, and deliberate approach to change which conserves the best of that which is proven to work while ensuring that needful changes are made.

    But I do see your point about some who become so hidebound about tradition that they reject all change as bad.