In your opinion "What defines a Jock?"

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    Jun 29, 2008 1:07 AM GMT
    Jocks, in my opinion, are any guys that are into at least one type of sport and strive to do their best in it. I am a runner and boogie boarder. Yeah there are a lot of buff guys that can out bench me but I can run circles around them when it comes to short/long distance running. I can boogie board for hours, where as some ripped guys can't hang for 30 minutes. Does this make me less of a "jock" because I don't look like the hulk? Just because you are built doesn't make you a jock!

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/jock

  • inuman

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    Jun 29, 2008 1:14 AM GMT
    Taken from wiki

    Jock: The term jock is a classic North American stereotype of a male athlete. The etymology of the term jock is derived from the word jockstrap,[1] which is an athletic support garment worn by men who engage in physical sports. The jock stereotype is attributed mostly to high school and college athletics participants who form a significant youth subculture. In sociology, the jock is thought to be included within the socialite subculture, which also contains the preppies and Ivy-Leagues.[2] As a blanket term the jock is considered synonymous with an athlete.[3]

    Other words that may mean the same as "jock" include muscle brain and the similar term muscle head. These terms are to most often refer to the conceit and selfishness that develops with the stereotype.

    The jock stereotype is used often in the mass media to portray a relatively unintelligent and unenlightened, but nonetheless physically and socially well endowed character. Examples of this include the high school quarterback Kevin Thompson in the MTV cartoon Daria, the popular athlete love interest Tommy Ross in Carrie, the spoiled bullying antagonist Luke Ward in the first season of The O.C., and Kim's wealthy athlete boyfriend Jim in Edward Scissorhands.

    Jocks as antagonists are stock characters shown as lacking compassion for the protagonist and are generally flat and static characters. Heathers' "Kurt" and "Ram" roles, the Spider-Man character Flash Thompson and Jean Grey's first boyfriend Duncan Matthews in X-Men: Evolution are such examples.

    Often, in comedy where the main characters aren't popular, the jock is the chief antagonist and cruel to the main characters. He hates nerds and homosexuals, is dim-witted, worshiped by the other students despite his cruelty, is obsessed with pretty girls, and is unable to recognize the ugly girl's beauty until she has a makeover. He is despised by the nerds, and usually has an unfortunate ending. Examples of this are the popular 1980s movies Revenge Of The Nerds and Heathers.

    As a protagonist the jock will often be a dynamic character who through an epiphany or new understanding will lead to a change in the values of the jock. This change often means a cessation of athletics and/or some other equivalent social sacrifice which leads to the character no longer being considered a jock. Examples include Randall "Pink" Floyd in Dazed and Confused and Andrew Clark in The Breakfast Club, as well Highway to Heaven episodes "Friends" and "Code Name:Freak".


    Well I think that a new term for gay jock should be created before I consider myself a jock, even though I do sports and watch sports that would classify me as a jock, I don't like the overall look and feel of wiki's term jock.
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    Jun 29, 2008 1:36 AM GMT
    hehehe gotta like that explanation
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    Jun 29, 2008 1:44 AM GMT
    DCBoy saidJocks, in my opinion, are any guys that are into at least one type of sport and strive to do their best in it. I am a runner and boogie boarder. Yeah there are a lot of buff guys that can out bench me but I can run circles around them when it comes to short/long distance running. I can boogie board for hours, where as some ripped guys can't hang for 30 minutes. Does this make me less of a "jock" because I don't look like the hulk? Just because you are built doesn't make you a jock!

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/jock



    having read that, are you looking for an explanation a justification or are you more trying to convince your self of your jockness
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    Jun 29, 2008 2:04 AM GMT
    Inuman-

    Thank you for all your research but...

    Jock does not come from jockstrap. Jockstrap comes from jock. Jocks were jocks before they wore protection of their groins which became known as jockstraps.

    What, or who, is a jock? Anyone who has an affinity for participating in sports. Team sports or individual sports. It has nothing to do with body type, or ability for that matter. It is the love of challenging yourself physically be it football, cycling, rockclimbing, ice skating, running, swimming, whatever. It is a mindset. I guess guys who love sports like football and baseball and follow their teams religiously might call themselves jocks, but I think of them as fans if all they do is follow sports and do not participate.

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    Jun 29, 2008 2:50 AM GMT
    Triggerman said
    Jock does not come from jockstrap. Jockstrap comes from jock. Jocks were jocks before they wore protection of their groins which became known as jockstraps.


    My dear pals Meri and Web tell me that jock is British slang for penis and that is where jockstrap comes from. Jockstrap dates back to 1886, while jock (in the school/college athlete sense) dates to 1922 and does come from jockstrap.

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    Jun 29, 2008 4:18 AM GMT
    Dont know which came first, Jock/ Jockstrap, but I agree with pretty much everything Trigger said about it being a mindset and not one's physicallity and though the former may heavily influence the latter it is not a given.
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    Jun 29, 2008 4:21 AM GMT
    You mean those guys who post on craigslist saying they're jocks might not be?

    *makes wide-eyed face*
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    Jun 29, 2008 5:35 AM GMT
    Buckwheet-

    If that is true I stand corrected. I have not had the time to verify, but I will take your word for it. I was wrong.
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    Jun 29, 2008 5:38 AM GMT
    Triggerman saidBuckwheet-
    If that is true I stand corrected. I have not had the time to verify, but I will take your word for it. I was wrong.
    Studs that can admit they are wrong are too sexy!
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    Jun 29, 2008 5:43 AM GMT
    I always admit when I am wrong. Otherwise, my credibility would be at stake. I did look at wikipedia, and it supports the argument that jockstrap came first. I stand corrected.
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    Jun 29, 2008 5:44 AM GMT
    as far as the original posting: just look at all the guys on here. Do they all look alike. I like how the this website describes itself .. Gay Fitness, Health, and Life .. the pretty much covers its. I think anyone that embraces fitness of the body and mind etc .. can fit into what I regard as an athlete. Jock is kind of a different word though. I guess it can mean many things.
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    Jun 29, 2008 10:06 AM GMT
    iguanaSF saidYou mean those guys who post on craigslist saying they're jocks might not be?

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    You look for jocks on craigslist?

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  • GQjock

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    Jun 29, 2008 12:13 PM GMT
    To me "jock" is a man who likes being physical
    whether that's through sports or working out and training