Stuff like this makes me sick to my stomach

  • DrobUA

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    Feb 08, 2012 3:38 PM GMT
    I don't understand how people can get this fucked in the head.

    http://news.yahoo.com/mo-teen-gets-life-possible-parole-killing-141938731.html

    A central Missouri teenager who confessed to strangling, cutting and stabbing a 9-year-old girl because she wanted to know how it felt to kill someone was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison with the possibility of parole.

    Her diary entry after stabbing the little girl to death.

    "I strangled them and slit their throat and stabbed them now they're dead," Bustamante wrote in her diary, which was read in court by a handwriting expert. "I don't know how to feel atm. It was ahmazing. As soon as you get over the 'ohmygawd I can't do this' feeling, it's pretty enjoyable. I'm kinda nervous and shaky though right now. Kay, I gotta go to church now...lol."
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    Feb 08, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    That is so intensely effed up it even surpasses some of the most twisted stories I've ever read. "gotta go to church now, lol"??? WTF???
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    Really? I've heard worse... nothing seems to surprise me anymore.

    This type of stuff is not new to society. The news media just likes to sensationalize it more. Sociopaths and psychopaths have always existed. Luckily now scientists are studying the minds of these sick people in order to identify earlier warning signs--hopefully one day we can treat these people if a predisposition to sociopathy and psychopathy is discovered in childhood.
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
    conscienti1984 saidReally? I've heard worse... nothing seems to surprise me anymore.

    This type of stuff is not new to society. The news media just likes to sensationalize it more. Sociopaths and psychopaths have always existed. Luckily now scientists are studying the minds of these sick people in order to identify earlier warning signs--hopefully one day we can treat these people if a predisposition to sociopathy and psychopathy is discovered in childhood.

    I wasn't referring to the gruesomeness of the crime itself -- because I've seen much worse -- but I'm meaning her reaction and subsequent action to it. I would expect her to exhibit signs of insanity or something, instead she engaged in a calm and collected recording of it in her diary and then the leaving for church right afterward?
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:38 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said I would expect her to exhibit signs of insanity or something, instead she engaged in a calm and collected recording of it in her diary and then the leaving for church right afterward?


    I am no expert, but I would imagine insanity is more likely to manifest itself in this quiet, sociopathic way.

    As has already been said, it is only newsworthy because it is very exceptional behaviour.
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
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    conscienti1984 saidReally? I've heard worse... nothing seems to surprise me anymore.

    This type of stuff is not new to society. The news media just likes to sensationalize it more. Sociopaths and psychopaths have always existed. Luckily now scientists are studying the minds of these sick people in order to identify earlier warning signs--hopefully one day we can treat these people if a predisposition to sociopathy and psychopathy is discovered in childhood.

    I wasn't referring to the gruesomeness of the crime itself -- because I've seen much worse -- but I'm meaning her reaction and subsequent action to it. I would expect her to exhibit signs of insanity or something, instead she engaged in a calm and collected recording of it in her diary and then the leaving for church right afterward?


    I wasn't just responding to your post. (I don't want you to think I nit-pick at all of you posts... just most jk icon_wink.gif:lolicon_smile.gif

    Compartmentalization... hence my suspicsion that she is a sociopath or psychopath.

    I'm not her doctor and I don't know the case well, but most people like her live normal lives and act normal in public. That's what makes psychopaths and sociopaths so freaky.
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said I would expect her to exhibit signs of insanity or something, instead she engaged in a calm and collected recording of it in her diary and then the leaving for church right afterward?


    As has already been said, it is only newsworthy because it is very exceptional.


    This.

    We are living in one of the most peaceful times in Human existence. But Americans love sensationalized news and news corporations equally love advertising dollars.
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:47 PM GMT
    Pure and simple: her life should be forfeit.

    Hang her high from the neck until she is dead.

    When there is no fear of consequence for actions, sin like this abounds.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 08, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
    You would hope the girl has some serious issues. Most well adjusted people don't sit around thinking of such a thing. I agree with what has been said above.

    I think if the time arrives when it doesn't "make us sick to our stomachs", something is seriously wrong with society.
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:49 PM GMT
    That is why i am in favor of the Death Penalty , and don't keep them in Jail for 10 or 15 years !!!
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
    She's obviously insane. You want to kill someone who is out of their mind?
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
    neffa saidThat is why i am in favor of the Death Penalty , and don't keep them in Jail for 10 or 15 years !!!


    The death penalty is neither a deterrent for crime nor sociopathy/psychopathy--it merely quenches the emotions of those seeking vengeance.
  • ac416

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    Feb 08, 2012 6:00 PM GMT
    There's a lot of real life Dexter's out there. Imagine we all have met one and not even known
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:00 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidShe's obviously insane. You want to kill someone who is out of their mind?


    Yes. Keep that sort of insanity out of the gene pool, and perhaps give some pause to those a little less insane from thinking of copy-catting the murder.
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:18 PM GMT
    AlphaTrigger said
    Scruffypup said< t/cite>She's obviously insane. You want to kill someone who is out of their mind?


    Yes. Keep that sort of insanity out of the gene pool, and perhaps give some pause to those a little less insane from thinking of copy-catting the murder.



    I didn't say release her back into society so she can reproduce. I just think murdering people is wrong, no matter if they're a bad person or not. And especially murdering someone who is obviously mentally ill. That's just unfathomable to me.
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:20 PM GMT
    Some people are fucked in the head. Deal with it.
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:21 PM GMT

    *ignoring obvious trolling*

    Good grief, she was 15 at the time; a child, and to be in such a dis-associative state, obvious mentally ill.

    She should be in an institution for the dangerously criminally insane.



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    Feb 08, 2012 6:40 PM GMT
    I realize many times this is the result of some sort of insanity, but I feel that anything which seems too extreme is too easily labeled insanity. Don't some people just enjoy being a monster without needing a certain kind of mental illness guiding their actions?
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:42 PM GMT
    Wow, this girl is certifiably mental. Death penalty? in the cold and obviously calculated manner in which she did this, yes, I'd be proponent of it here.
  • Buddha

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    Feb 08, 2012 6:46 PM GMT
    If I remember correctly, I think Mary Bell wrote similiar things when killing her victims.

    Wow. I was actually surprised. I thought this thread would be about "how the hell can a state put a teenaged child away for life for something that is obviously some kind of psychological disorder", instead I read posts like "HANG THE BITCH, SHE DESERVES TO DIE". I guess life in Sweden and life in USA are pretty different after all.
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI realize many times this is the result of some sort of insanity, but I feel that anything which seems too extreme is too easily labeled insanity. Don't some people just enjoy being a monster without needing a certain kind of mental illness guiding their actions?



    She already had a history of mental illness, Mock, and her meds had been upped recently before the event. icon_wink.gif
  • He_Man

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    Feb 08, 2012 6:53 PM GMT
    No! Don't kill her! I believe in using people like this for scientific experimentation. No, really!

    Okay, so we have all of the moral/ethical issues to tackle with about using humans for scienfitic experiments, but I say to hell with it. For whatever reason, she lost her rights to live free amoung the rest of her peers because of her sociopathic behavior.

    Can you imagine what researchers could learn by studying her? Take her freedom away but not her life. She can benefit society in ways that her death would never do. Death is the easy way out - turn the little sociopath into a guinea pig.
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:55 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI realize many times this is the result of some sort of insanity, but I feel that anything which seems too extreme is too easily labeled insanity. Don't some people just enjoy being a monster without needing a certain kind of mental illness guiding their actions?


    You want to believe that there is something known as Evil. But we're smarter than this, now.

    This girl is likely irredeemable, and I won't argue for whether she should be institutionalized, imprisoned or put to death. None of these will rehabilitate her nor deter others like her.

    The problem is in her wiring. She did not wire herself this way, neither did her parents. She is not evil; she is broken. Like, Evil doesn't cause a Ferris wheel to snap from its moorings and crush a six-year-old. You'd say the Ferris wheel is broken, and someone died as a result.

    Like the broken Ferris wheel, this girl must be decommissioned. But trying to understand her actions is pointless. She's broken.
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    Feb 08, 2012 6:56 PM GMT
    Logan, I agree in a way. i think if you are locked up for life or due to be executed you should be forced to donate organs to all those upstanding citizens who need transplants but are on a waiting list. You took from society when you committed your crime, now we are taking back.
  • Lawrencium

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    Feb 08, 2012 7:15 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    conscienti1984 saidReally? I've heard worse... nothing seems to surprise me anymore.

    This type of stuff is not new to society. The news media just likes to sensationalize it more. Sociopaths and psychopaths have always existed. Luckily now scientists are studying the minds of these sick people in order to identify earlier warning signs--hopefully one day we can treat these people if a predisposition to sociopathy and psychopathy is discovered in childhood.

    I wasn't referring to the gruesomeness of the crime itself -- because I've seen much worse -- but I'm meaning her reaction and subsequent action to it. I would expect her to exhibit signs of insanity or something, instead she engaged in a calm and collected recording of it in her diary and then the leaving for church right afterward?


    sounds pretty effin' crazy to me.