Intermittent Fasting

  • Ritournelle

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    Feb 08, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    Has anyone tried it? Did a 24 hour last night, had surprising mental clarity through the day and my stomach shredded out pretty nicely. I'm struggling with the nutritional aspect of it since you pretty much have to force feed yourself.
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    Thats Yom Kippour!.. not to mention a few Hindu holidays!
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    Feb 08, 2012 5:58 PM GMT
    I'm loosely following the intermittent fasting programme found on LeanGains.com by Martin Berkham.

    Pretty good stuff, though I need to give it about 8 more weeks to gauge if it is working ... roughly 16 hours of fasting with an 8 hour feeding window.

    Only drag is the best time I can work out is early morning - so I take some BCAAs with protein in the morning and a second round within an hour after my workout. I seem to be leaning out but very very gradually.
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    Feb 08, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
    For my accelerated clients, I have intermittent fasting programs. It spikes HGH. That's why you feel like you have tons of energy.

    Fat loss is all about endocrinology. :-)
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    Feb 09, 2012 1:42 AM GMT
    I've done a few variations of it. It definitely works if you wanna lean out quickly.
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    Feb 09, 2012 10:59 AM GMT
    GreenHopper saidThats Yom Kippour!.. not to mention a few Hindu holidays!


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  • Ritournelle

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    Feb 10, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Velociraptor saidFor my accelerated clients, I have intermittent fasting programs. It spikes HGH. That's why you feel like you have tons of energy.

    Fat loss is all about endocrinology. :-)


    There's more to it than higher levels of HGH.

    Insulin levels peak and deplete on a diet with frequent meals. It's like a yo-yo effect and this used to really leave me groggy all the time.

    On a cellular level, intermittent fasting allows for less waste products for the cells to have to work with and push out of the body. Instead of the body having to focus on elimination of waste materials the body can use its energy for other functions, like 'simply being.'

    The first morning on my intermittent fasting I was groggy, bitchy, crabby and felt a tad dizzy. I didn't think I was going to be able to do it. Then in about one day's time I balanced out and now I love that I can get up, not have to worry about eating. In fact, I typically only eat twice a day. I eat about 3,000 calories a day, but I split that into about 1200 calories post workout (around 2PM) and then a final meal around 10PM at another 1200 calories. In between I consume a couple of vegetable and fruit smoothies. Liquid food is highly discouraged by Martin on his leangains.com website. But I still want to get my nine to eleven servings of fresh fruits/veggies daily. So this is the easiest way to do it.

    I'm the leanest I've ever been and it's so easy. I could get leaner but then my face starts looking too gaunt. So I eat a bit more to plump my face up. Otherwise my abs could easily be sharper. icon_smile.gif

    I workout three times a week (I follow Martin's protocol) and train three days a week for no more than thirty minutes at a time, I eat twice a day. Now all I need is a good job and my life will be well balanced. Not only is intermittent fasting and Martin's training easy to follow, but it also makes living life and staying fit so much more attainable. I couldn't go back to work and keep up with six days a week at the gym. That's just not possible. I'm not nineteen anymore. icon_smile.gif


    QFT, I'm on day 3, and I feel so much more energetic than ever. Strangely enough, I feel like my workout was a lot easier and I made some decent gains from last week. Is this just a placebo?
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    Feb 10, 2012 2:27 AM GMT
    i did not eat for a month no food or water and i was enlighten
  • Ritournelle

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    Feb 10, 2012 2:48 AM GMT
    I'm basically trying to figure if I genetically have a six pack. I have that last bit of fat that people sometimes liposuction. However, my obliques really trimmed in the last three days as did my arms. What really struck me was how much easier pull ups were. I'm doing high reps (3x15) so I use the assist. Last week I deducted 56 pounds and I struggled. Today, that felt like nothing, and I was able deduct only 32 pounds with no problem.
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidI'm loosely following the intermittent fasting programme found on LeanGains.com by Martin Berkham.

    Pretty good stuff, though I need to give it about 8 more weeks to gauge if it is working ... roughly 16 hours of fasting with an 8 hour feeding window.

    Only drag is the best time I can work out is early morning - so I take some BCAAs with protein in the morning and a second round within an hour after my workout. I seem to be leaning out but very very gradually.


    I started this a week ago. Haven't been on the scale since Tuesday so I don't know if there's a weight difference yet, but just sticking to it for a week is an accomplishment, I feel. The hardest day was definitely Saturday which was a low-carb day. Similarly, I work out in the mornings (about 7h30) and my feeding window is about 11h30 to 19h30 (I was within a half-hour of this every day).

    While I read a lot of the articles on Martin's site, I got a lot of the calculation info from Ripped Body, (http://rippedbody.jp/category/english/), the blog of a Japan-based acolyte of Martin's.

    Those of you doing the Leangains-inspired protocol, what kind of work outs are you doing?
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:36 PM GMT
    LOL another fad diet. Of course you have mental clarity--your brain is using ketones instead of glucose. You'll feel high.

    If they marketed a diet that promises abs and big chests that required eating worms I bet you'd do it.
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    Apr 23, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
    I've done LG's IF and the results were great. I was never able to drop as much fat and retain muscle on the '6 meals a day' diet. Though post IF I probably could have made it work if I further tweaked my diet. But I love IF and not going back.

    I've changed to a bulk 3 weeks ago. I haven't increased any bw but my waist did drop a further 0.5". So I'd say some re-comp took place.

    And I wouldn't call LG a fad diet. Martin does say IF isnt for everyone and is better suited for those who are more in an intermediate level with ~12-15% bf. But no harm in giving it a try, if you are willing to put the effort into the set up.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:05 PM GMT
    thanks Moar, good to know. As I said I haven't seen any physical effects yet (nor would I expect to on a week) but I have taken baseline measurements. I'm sticking with it for five weeks to see how I feel and what I see.

    To be honest though, I haven't yet experienced this astonishing mental clarity. Though I'm surprised by how easy it was to break the mindset of having a big meal first thing in the morning--and I love breakfast. By the end of the week I wasn't feeling hungry until about the last hour before my feeding window.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:09 PM GMT
    cdncuteboy saidthanks Moar, good to know. As I said I haven't seen any physical effects yet (nor would I expect to on a week) but I have taken baseline measurements. I'm sticking with it for five weeks to see how I feel and what I see.

    To be honest though, I haven't yet experienced this astonishing mental clarity. Though I'm surprised by how easy it was to break the mindset of having a big meal first thing in the morning--and I love breakfast. By the end of the week I wasn't feeling hungry until about the last hour before my feeding window.
    My current profile pic was taken at the end of the cut whicc ended 3 weeks ago. I've never looked like that in my life ever! Not saying that I look fantastic as I know I've got work to do.

    It can be rough in the beginning but you'll get used to it. I'm not a breakfast person so I like this protocol. I did a recomp set up for several weeks before doing a cut. Try and transition into it rather than jump into it, if you feel the going is rough.
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    Apr 23, 2012 4:15 PM GMT
    No, I'm actually surprised by how little trouble I'm having with it. As I said, Saturday was the tough day, but other than that the biggest hurdle is actually getting in all my goal calories on my weight-training days--as well as getting my head around eating things like bagels and pasta again after shunning them for so long.

    As for your results, though---holy wick, if I had results like that I'd throw out all my shirts.
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    Apr 23, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    cdncuteboy said but other than that the biggest hurdle is actually getting in all my goal calories on my weight-training days--

    Thats what I thought in the beginning. But a day after low cals and after trainning, the food just goes down easily with a touch of gratitude! icon_smile.gif

    Martin has so many cals that he divideds it into 2 pwo meals. I'm not there yet.

    cdncuteboy saidas well as getting my head around eating things like bagels and pasta again after shunning them for so long.

    Part of my post wo meal is 3 bagels with jam, low fat cream cheese.. icon_razz.gif

    cdncuteboy saidAs for your results, though---holy wick, if I had results like that I'd throw out all my shirts.
    lol.. You'll get there icon_smile.gif
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    Apr 23, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
    bluey2223 saidLOL another fad diet. Of course you have mental clarity--your brain is using ketones instead of glucose. You'll feel high.

    If they marketed a diet that promises abs and big chests that required eating worms I bet you'd do it.


    I'll just quote Charles Poliquin:"Intermittent Fasting?Fastest way to Diabetes type 2"
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    Apr 23, 2012 7:32 PM GMT
    To the guys completely dismissing this, have you done any research on it? Tried it yourself? Or are you just weighing in based on something someone's told you?
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    Apr 24, 2012 8:20 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    bluey2223 saidLOL another fad diet. Of course you have mental clarity--your brain is using ketones instead of glucose. You'll feel high.



    I'm surprised you got the whole concept of ketosis wrong, Bluey. Aren't you supposed to be some edjumuhcayted masters degree soon to be in nutriton?


    Yes, didnt you know fasting is done in every single culture and religion since humans have existed, so it is not a fad, and that they all consider it a way to sharpen the mind? And that when you are "high" your mind is totally NOT sharp at all, so that is a complete contradiction? And that to relate this to ketones is thus complete crock? Especially since raised ketones even happen in the morning and when you dont eat breakfast you don't feel "high" and your mental acuity may even DECREASE? And have you even TRIED fasting before you spouting such nonsense?
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    Apr 24, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    GreenHopper saidAnd have you even TRIED fasting before you spouting such nonsense?


    It's not worth arguing with blind people who insist the sky is red. Waste of your time and theirs.
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    Apr 24, 2012 7:52 PM GMT
    I do the 8 hour video game vegging fast. You get into an immersive game, and all other aspects of real life become unnoticeable. By the end, you feel like a zombie with a hunger to match.
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    Apr 24, 2012 8:01 PM GMT
    I fast every night whilst asleep.
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    Apr 24, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
    I do intermittent fasting when I can, but it's hard for me to maintain a schedule between school, work, and the boyfriend. The animal and human studies seem to clearly support IF as an eating regimen and my mood, physical energy, and mental focus skyrocket while I'm on an IF eating program.

    I haven't been able maintain IF while holding a job, since my job hours have never been stable and when work conflicts with my eating window it throws off my mood and energy levels. Additionally, it's hard to eat everything for a day in 30 minutes.

    My boyfriend is another obstacle. Somehow or another, I always feel like I'm the bad guy when I'm trying to explain that I don't want waffles/pancakes/the full English until a few hours after sundown. He refuses to try it, and having seen him miss his constant series of snacks I don't want to encourage him too much to try it either.

    It's amazing, it really is, and one of these days I'm going to find a great guy who I can feast with every night after a long day of exercise( and all that other work and school related stuff that nobody finds exciting or romantic) but until then, it takes two to pay the rent so having a place to stay takes priority.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Apr 24, 2012 11:48 PM GMT
    This sounds really interesting. I downloaded the "Eat,Stop,Eat" e-book from the lean gain.com site so I'll give it a try. I need to lean up for a cruise this summer cuz all you do is eat on those things. Thanks for the info guys icon_eek.gif