CNN/GLAAD/Roland Martin Issue: Gays are Too Sensitive. Grow Up!!

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    Feb 09, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    CNN's Roland Martin, GLAAD and Sensitive Gays



    Gays are too sensitive. I definitely don't support homophobia but I do believe in First Amendment rights to be a jerk. Our First Amendment rights should not be censored because people don't hold the same religious or cultural views as you do on homosexuality. And people's careers shouldn't be ruined because you don't like the way you think. Punish actions NOT thoughts!!
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:06 AM GMT
    The First Amendment does not apply to private corporations. Walking into your boss' office, and calling him an idiot, will likely get you fired, no matter how much you cry free speech violation.
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:09 AM GMT
    Punish actions not thoughts. True.

    As long as you keep your thoughts to yourself and not start acting like a jerk in the name of freedom of speech because when you do that, your thoughts become actions.

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    Feb 09, 2012 4:11 AM GMT
    Fiyero27 saidThe First Amendment does not apply to private corporations. Walking into your boss' office, and calling him an idiot, will likely get you fired, no matter how much you cry free speech violation.
    Bingo!
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:15 AM GMT
    He's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:18 AM GMT
    LAGYM saidHe's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame
    CNN is a corporation, meaning they can fire an employee for anything they say, and it's not a free speech violation. It's their prerogative to decide if they support their employees making remarks that go against their company policies.
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:20 AM GMT
    LAGYM saidHe's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame


    Well people also get offended when racial and sexist slurs are being made and how quickly we dispense them as intolerants but when gays are faced with the same bias, it becomes a matter of free speech. double standards!
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:23 AM GMT
    Fiyero27 said
    LAGYM saidHe's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame
    CNN is a corporation, meaning they can fire an employee for anything they say, and it's not a free speech violation. It's their prerogative to decide if they support their employees making remarks that go against their company policies.


    But the issue is that GLAAD is now trying determine and influence what language should be punished and not forgetting its a free damn country.. CNN only bowed to unnecessary gay pressure from GLAAD over free speech that normally he wouldn't have gotten suspended over had GLAAD not interjected itself into it.

    GLAAD is the new bully in town and you better be careful or else they take away your career, livelihood until you have nothing else. BEWARE of GLAAD!!
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    Feb 09, 2012 4:26 AM GMT
    ricky1987 said
    LAGYM saidHe's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame


    Well people also get offended when racial and sexist slurs are being made and how quickly we dispense them as intolerants but when gays are faced with the same bias, it becomes a matter of free speech. double standards!


    No double standard. Have you forgotten how your GOP candidates for presidents recently tore into black people and nobody in the media really said a peep. Blacks get slammed all the time so please gays stop being so damn sensitive
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    Feb 09, 2012 5:07 AM GMT
    He must of made a wise crack to Anderson Cooper, and he told him to F@#K-OFF ... lol
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    Feb 09, 2012 6:06 AM GMT
    Jamesdp saidHe must of made a wise crack to Anderson Cooper, and he told him to F@#K-OFF ... lol


    Or to Don Lemon, CNN has some good gays.
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    Feb 09, 2012 6:07 AM GMT
    ricky1987 said
    LAGYM saidHe's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame


    Well people also get offended when racial and sexist slurs are being made and how quickly we dispense them as intolerants but when gays are faced with the same bias, it becomes a matter of free speech. double standards!


    But do note, there were NO slurs involved.
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    Feb 09, 2012 6:20 AM GMT
    i think the fact remains that his comment was rude and ignorant and if it was said in the privacy of his own home then we wouldn't be having this conversation. However he chose to act on his thoughts and post them to a public venue...Twitter. I have to listen to one aunt or other relative every single month warning me about what i put on the internet, be it Facebook, Twitter or anything else. You'd think a member of the news media, who often get some of their juiciest tidbits from indiscreet posts on social media, would know better than to put something potentially volatile such as that out on the internet where all could see.
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    Feb 09, 2012 7:15 AM GMT
    he's right. They have a constitutional right to free speach, and we have a right to kick them in the balls when they say shit that infinges on our rights to free kicking in the balls. Honestly. I don't have a clue what the guy in the video was talking about and I have a 135 IQ. It's not me.
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    Feb 09, 2012 7:17 AM GMT
    He got suspended for that? Lol.
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    Feb 09, 2012 10:10 AM GMT
    LAGYM said
    ricky1987 said
    LAGYM saidHe's not a corporation. The intent was also different. He was joking with pals and got onto twitter and carried that manner to his tweet. He didn't say go out and find a gay person and beat the crap out of him. GLAAD is now the gay bully terrorizing straight identified folks such a damn shame


    Well people also get offended when racial and sexist slurs are being made and how quickly we dispense them as intolerants but when gays are faced with the same bias, it becomes a matter of free speech. double standards!


    No double standard. Have you forgotten how your GOP candidates for presidents recently tore into black people and nobody in the media really said a peep. Blacks get slammed all the time so please gays stop being so damn sensitive


    Yes the GOP candidates spoke openly about denying blacks the right to marriage. Oh wait that was the gays. What did they say about black people? Oh I know, teaching them how to get jobs instead of rely on unemployment. A bit racist much? Yes. But sounds like a good idea to me actually.
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    Feb 09, 2012 11:17 AM GMT
    I like Roland. I don't always agree with him, but I actually do like the guy. Particularly the way he dosn't let people get away with talking "ish".

    Having said that, his tweets were completely inappropriate and he certainly should have been reprimanded. I think firing him goes a bit too far. He is in a position where his opinions carry weight, which is kind what his position with CNN is all about. The platform he speaks from affects CNN and it speaks to a large array of people. Not to mention the fact that there a LOT of gays working for and are affiliated with CNN, so just in the way of hostile work environment he should have been suspended for a time (not indefinately).
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    Feb 09, 2012 11:37 AM GMT
    He has his free speech right to say whatever he likes. But if he's going to be dumb enough to do it in a public way that his bosses might see and dislike, then he gets fired! Welcome to the at-will employment world buddy!
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    Feb 09, 2012 11:42 AM GMT
    Honestly, you'd think he'd know better given his job but I guess not according to this situation. Freedom of speech is a double-edged sword. He quickly found that out the hard way.
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    Feb 09, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
    Did any of you actually READ the statement from CNN as to why they suspended him?

    Go read it.

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    Feb 09, 2012 2:02 PM GMT
    Free speech, free speech, free speech. There is no such thing as free speech, that is why we censor TV and the Internet. You only have so much 'freedom' when it comes to say whatever you want. It is not a matter of whether he has the right to express his 'thoughts' or not, it comes down to how appropriate or consequential his remarks are. CNN has the right to fire whoever they please over saying anything that damages the company's reputation. Get over it.
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    Feb 09, 2012 2:11 PM GMT
    charlitos saidFree speech, free speech, free speech. There is no such thing as free speech, that is why we censor TV and the Internet. You only have so much 'freedom' when it comes to say whatever you want. It is not a matter of whether he has the right to express his 'thoughts' or not, it comes down to how appropriate or consequential his remarks are. CNN has the right to fire whoever they please over saying anything that damages the company's reputation. Get over it.


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    Feb 09, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
    I still think GLAAD runs the risk of actually alienating people who are already pro-gay by making mountains out of molehills such as this. Roland Martin's tweets were mildly inappropriate at worst --- certainly not blatantly homophobic --- and not really something that should have cost him his job or even a suspension. I think a public apology would have sufficed, while still having the same effect of bringing a better social awareness to the public of how words can have consequences even if they may seem trite on the surface. GLAAD needs to choose their battles more wisely, and not come off as an organization that looks petty in their effort to get publicity.
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    Feb 09, 2012 2:53 PM GMT
    The gay "community" cries way too fucking much.
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    Feb 09, 2012 2:57 PM GMT
    There is a price to be paid for stupidity.

    My friends and I de-generate into crass language sometimes, but we're not stupid enough to publish it on Twitter.

    Roland Martin's statement:
    "If a dude at your Super Bowl party is hyped about David Beckham's H&M underwear ad, smack the ish out of him! "