Unprotected Sex

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    Jun 29, 2008 4:25 PM GMT
    Sorry, don't mean to be a drag, but What the friggin hell is going on? It seems all of a sudden, lots of gay men are ok with unprotected sex.

    I'm negative. But the other day, i met a guy, and we were all hot and heavy, and despite the fact thsat we both agreed beforehand that safe is the only way to go, this bugger was begging me to fuck him BB. I almost did, until I cought my breathe and calmed down and put a stop to it.

    And this is not the first time this situation has happened within the past few months.

    I knew guys who died from AIDS. I know guys who are HIV positive, and they constantly deal with medicines, side affects, doctor visits etc.

    I don't understand how anyone could take the chance.

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    Jul 12, 2008 1:50 AM GMT
    You know, I don't understand it either- but I guess some people don't respect themselves enough or are delusional enough to believe they are 'immune' (and by that I mean invincible). It is unfortunate that some individuals do not have their own best interests in mind- and for some health is not high on their list of priorities.

    I guess education is really the only viable way I can think of to promote condom use for every sexual encounter.. but again you can only do so much to effect the decisions and actions of those around you. Just stay safe, baby!
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    Aug 07, 2008 10:36 AM GMT
    These threads are becoming more common on RJ which makes me think that unprotected sex is also becoming more common. The fear of AIDS/HIV seems to have abated due to the new medications. Gay men are not exposed to friends dying of AIDS so it does not resonate with them anymore. They don't realize it is not a big deal until they actually have to start dealing with HIV. And the point about medications is a good one. Keeping someone alive like myself is very expensive for the insurance companies (my HIV drugs cost $15,000+ per year). That is a cold-hearted way of looking at things, but it is important to remember that HIV is very expensive to society.
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    Aug 07, 2008 10:42 PM GMT
    The Washington Post had an article today about how the lessons of the late 80s and early 90's about HIV prevention are being forgotten.

    My best friend, who is almost 40, who, when drunk, will occasionally starting crying about the friends he has lost to AIDS, refuses to believe that oral sex is risky at all. To me, that attitude from someone who lived through the initial AIDS scare is unbelievable. Even if oral sex is not the riskiest behavior when it comes to transmission of HIV, it's still a possibility.

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    Aug 07, 2008 11:36 PM GMT
    AS ASH (Alternative Suicide Holiday) stated in their web site Getting HIV as a means on Suicide stupidest way. Lots of illness and you could be so Un lucky that they will find a cure,

    Hope to God they are right about that one.

    Here in Dallas as late as 2006 I heard people talking about Gift Giving parties
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    Aug 08, 2008 2:46 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle said
    SurrealLife said Keeping someone alive like myself is very expensive for the insurance companies (my HIV drugs cost $15,000+ per year). That is a cold-hearted way of looking at things, but it is important to remember that HIV is very expensive to society.



    Remember that we live in a capitalist country and there is a lot of greed. That amount to be paid is not what you'd pay in India for generic versions of drugs that might be only a few years old. Treating HIV in other countries cost unbelievably low amounts that you could pay out of pocket and if you have a decent job it's not going to put you in the poor house.


    True, but I have a sneaky suspicion none of these drugs would have made it to the market place without the ability to charge a high price to re-coup the investment. Supposedly it costs on average $1 billion dollars to bring a new drug to market. Some of the earliest drugs (e.g. the protease inhibitors like Ritonavir) have been replaced by more advanced medications. The drug companies probably lost money on them.

    The US citizens pay higher drug costs because there seems to be no limits to what the drug companies can charge, as opposed to Canada and Europe.

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    Aug 09, 2008 2:05 AM GMT
    KissingPro saidSorry, don't mean to be a drag, but What the friggin hell is going on? It seems all of a sudden, lots of gay men are ok with unprotected sex.

    I'm negative. But the other day, i met a guy, and we were all hot and heavy, and despite the fact thsat we both agreed beforehand that safe is the only way to go, this bugger was begging me to fuck him BB. I almost did, until I cought my breathe and calmed down and put a stop to it.

    And this is not the first time this situation has happened within the past few months.

    I knew guys who died from AIDS. I know guys who are HIV positive, and they constantly deal with medicines, side affects, doctor visits etc.

    I don't understand how anyone could take the chance.



    I think part of the explanation might be that they choose to treat sex like one of life's necessities. This is distressing to me. icon_cry.gif

    SEX IS NOT FOOD.
    SEX IS NOT SHELTER.
    SEX IS NOT CLOTHING.

    It is an enjoyable yet optional activity. In fact, I think all men should go on abstinence binges icon_wink.gif.


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    Aug 09, 2008 5:34 AM GMT
    The peer pressure is out there in terms of BB. It is suddenly everywhere...

    These are the moments that kind of make me glad I am not single, not dating, not out there in the market.

    Ultimately it is a self-destructive behavior...

    This is a bigger discussion that safe sex. It is a discussion about sex -- about what it means, about where it places us and how it turns us on and why it turns us on. Why do people want to come inside each other, what does it signify -- since we can not have babies.... what does it mean. Why do we glorify the exchange of fluids, why do they taste good, feel good, etc.

    While the reasons, the feelings, and the definition of what's hot are complex topics ultimately the prescription of what's healthy is unnervingly simple : use protection, ALWAYS.


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    Aug 11, 2008 8:23 AM GMT
    KissingPro saidSorry, don't mean to be a drag, but What the friggin hell is going on? It seems all of a sudden, lots of gay men are ok with unprotected sex.

    I'm negative. But the other day, i met a guy, and we were all hot and heavy, and despite the fact thsat we both agreed beforehand that safe is the only way to go, this bugger was begging me to fuck him BB. I almost did, until I cought my breathe and calmed down and put a stop to it.

    And this is not the first time this situation has happened within the past few months.

    I knew guys who died from AIDS. I know guys who are HIV positive, and they constantly deal with medicines, side affects, doctor visits etc.

    I don't understand how anyone could take the chance.

    Good to hear you put a stop to it. From what I've seen being in the gay bars and working in them for almost 10 years, if someone doesn't want to practice safe sex, they have something they WANT to give you. A gift of sorts if you will. That's how the gay boys play these days. They don't give a shit about anyone, including themselves.
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    Aug 11, 2008 3:37 PM GMT
    I am only ok with unprotected sex if you are in a relationship and know each others status. Me and my boyfriend have been together for years and are both negitive and only have sex bareback.