Santorum´s Popular Appeal

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:10 PM GMT
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/rick-santorum-tells-sick-kid-market-should-should-set-drug-prices/

    Won´t do that well generally after this...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:15 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidhttp://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/rick-santorum-tells-sick-kid-market-should-should-set-drug-prices/

    Won´t do that well generally after this...


    Is this the Republican alternative to Obamas Health Care Reform? No thanks!
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19119

    Feb 09, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    Trust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    Santorum's Popular Appeal? he's not Romney.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.


    actually from the article, "The mother said the boy was on the drug Abilify, used to treat schizophrenia, and that, on paper, its costs would exceed $1 million each year." [emphasis added]
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:28 PM GMT
    Apple products are expensive but if you don´t have one then wow you don´t die.

    The same is not the same for essential medicine. And $900 once is not quite a million bucks a year.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidApple products are expensive but if you don´t have one then wow you don´t die.

    The same is not the same for essential medicine. And $900 once is not quite a million bucks a year.


    Now if the average American was paying 1 mil for an ipad and replacing it yearly, then santorum would have a valid point. In reality, santorums argument is delusional.
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19119

    Feb 09, 2012 5:37 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.



    I agree. However, the lady isn't likely to have to cough up the $1 million to get her kid the medicine. Either her insurance will -- or the government will shoulder the cost. Government isn't buying poor people iPads --- at least not yet icon_eek.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:39 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.



    I agree. However, the lady isn't likely to have to cough up the $1 million to get her kid the medicine. Either her insurance will -- or the government will shoulder the cost. Government isn't buying poor people iPads --- at least not yet icon_eek.gif


    Wait wait wait. What if the parents didnt have insurance? They will have to foot the entire bill!!!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    many pharmaceutical companies have programs that either provides meds at a reduced price, or free.

    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20456466,00.html
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.



    I agree. However, the lady isn't likely to have to cough up the $1 million to get her kid the medicine. Either her insurance will -- or the government will shoulder the cost. Government isn't buying poor people iPads --- at least not yet icon_eek.gif


    Wait wait wait. What if the parents didnt have insurance? They will have to foot the entire bill!!!


    Or even better- what if they did have insurance and the insurance company denied the claims saying the parents falsified his medical history on his application (weight on application doesnt match weight in physician notes) hoping he dies b4 the case makes it thru the court system.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 5:50 PM GMT
    tailgater_3 saidmany pharmaceutical companies have programs that either provides meds at a reduced price, or free.

    http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20456466,00.html


    If u qualify***. Relying on the generosity of phsrmaceutical companies to stay alive is ill advised
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    Oh wait...we have Romneycare for all now thanks to Prez Obama and the Dems. No worries!!!!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
    tailgater_3 saidSantorum's Popular Appeal? he's not Romney.





    Yup.

    The Repubs have a choice between:

    A) Rick Santorum who advocates unpopular policies that a majority of folks don't like - but who's personally fairly likeable.

    Or

    B) Mitt Romneycare - a stiff flip-flopping phony who folks find personally repellent.

    It's a lose-lose choice.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    The scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 10:27 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidThe scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?


    No he is not. 900 for a one time purchase ipad doesnt equal 900 per month for a lifetime of one prescription med.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 10:30 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie saidThe scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?


    No he is not. 900 for a one time purchase ipad doesnt equal 900 per month for a lifetime of one prescription med.


    So what, they have the right to charge whatever the hell they want!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 10:35 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie saidThe scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?


    No he is not. 900 for a one time purchase ipad doesnt equal 900 per month for a lifetime of one prescription med.


    So what, they have the right to charge whatever the hell they want!


    True. They can charge 1mil for a one months supply. The problem arises when people cant get insurance because of a preexisting condition or insurance just wont cover it. Middle class families cant afford it. Should they just hurry up and die?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.



    I agree. However, the lady isn't likely to have to cough up the $1 million to get her kid the medicine. Either her insurance will -- or the government will shoulder the cost. Government isn't buying poor people iPads --- at least not yet icon_eek.gif
    Huh? Insurance companies do NOT write policies for MANY "pre existing conditions".......... Isn't that kinda what is in the healthcare act? To keep folks like that from NOT having or being able to OBTAIN coverage? Me thinks thats EXACTLY what is contained in the healthcare act and EXACTLY WHY!icon_wink.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 10:43 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.



    I agree. However, the lady isn't likely to have to cough up the $1 million to get her kid the medicine. Either her insurance will -- or the government will shoulder the cost. Government isn't buying poor people iPads --- at least not yet icon_eek.gif
    Huh? Insurance companies do NOT write policies for MANY "pre existing conditions".......... Isn't that kinda what is in the healthcare act? To keep folks like that from NOT having or being able to OBTAIN coverage? Me thinks thats EXACTLY what is contained in the healthcare act and EXACTLY WHY!icon_wink.gif


    Correct. That is also the reason for the mandate so people dont get hit with an unexpected health crisis and go bankrupt from medical bills.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 10:47 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    catfish5 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidTrust me, I have absolutely ZERO respect for this man. However, he does make a valid point. We have no problem spending $900 for an unnecessary item like an iPad, but we complain about the price of a medicine that can save your life.


    Put it in perspective with a chronic disease. Thats $900 PER MONTH for a lifetime. Makes a $900 (one time charge) on an ipad look like pennies.



    I agree. However, the lady isn't likely to have to cough up the $1 million to get her kid the medicine. Either her insurance will -- or the government will shoulder the cost. Government isn't buying poor people iPads --- at least not yet icon_eek.gif
    Huh? Insurance companies do NOT write policies for MANY "pre existing conditions".......... Isn't that kinda what is in the healthcare act? To keep folks like that from NOT having or being able to OBTAIN coverage? Me thinks thats EXACTLY what is contained in the healthcare act and EXACTLY WHY!icon_wink.gif


    Correct. That is also the reason for the mandate so people dont get hit with an unexpected health crisis and go bankrupt from medical bills.
    Mr high society CJ and MT.. dont have this problem.. therefore let them eat cake is their mantra.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie said
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie saidThe scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?


    No he is not. 900 for a one time purchase ipad doesnt equal 900 per month for a lifetime of one prescription med.


    So what, they have the right to charge whatever the hell they want!


    True. They can charge 1mil for a one months supply. The problem arises when people cant get insurance because of a preexisting condition or insurance just wont cover it. Middle class families cant afford it. Should they just hurry up and die?


    How many drugs cost 1 million for one month's supply?

    You do realize a store could charge 1 million for a roll of toilet paper if they want, but I doubt they will.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 11:06 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie said
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie saidThe scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?


    No he is not. 900 for a one time purchase ipad doesnt equal 900 per month for a lifetime of one prescription med.


    So what, they have the right to charge whatever the hell they want!


    True. They can charge 1mil for a one months supply. The problem arises when people cant get insurance because of a preexisting condition or insurance just wont cover it. Middle class families cant afford it. Should they just hurry up and die?


    How many drugs cost 1 million for one month's supply?

    You do realize a store could charge 1 million for a roll of toilet paper if they want, but I doubt they will.


    I agreed with your point that the pharmaceuticals can charge whatever they want for their drug- even 1 mil for 30 day supply. Referring to the article using the ipad analogy, $900 per month for a drug for a lifetime is still out of reach financially for a middle class family.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 09, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie said
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie said
    catfish5 said
    mocktwinkie saidThe scumbag is totally right on this point though, what's the big deal?


    No he is not. 900 for a one time purchase ipad doesnt equal 900 per month for a lifetime of one prescription med.


    So what, they have the right to charge whatever the hell they want!


    True. They can charge 1mil for a one months supply. The problem arises when people cant get insurance because of a preexisting condition or insurance just wont cover it. Middle class families cant afford it. Should they just hurry up and die?


    How many drugs cost 1 million for one month's supply?

    You do realize a store could charge 1 million for a roll of toilet paper if they want, but I doubt they will.


    I agreed with your point that the pharmaceuticals can charge whatever they want for their drug- even 1 mil for 30 day supply. Referring to the article using the ipad analogy, $900 per month for a drug for a lifetime is still out of reach financially for a middle class family.


    Oh well, yeah I agree with that. I'm not totally sure what his point was.