Another NHL team in Canada?

  • adamhawks

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    Feb 09, 2012 11:32 PM GMT
    http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20120209/canada-nhl-teams-120209/

    What are your thoughts? If Seattle is passed over which city will get the next team?

    It wold be nice to see Les Nordiques de Québec (more commonly known as Nordiques) brought back to life.
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    Feb 10, 2012 2:17 AM GMT
    adamhawks saidhttp://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20120209/canada-nhl-teams-120209/

    What are your thoughts? If Seattle is passed over which city will get the next team?

    It wold be nice to see Les Nordiques de Québec (more commonly known as Nordiques) brought back to life.


    It would be nice. I'd bet on a second team in Toronto?
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:27 AM GMT
    h0ck3y_david said
    zackmorrisfanclub said
    adamhawks saidhttp://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20120209/canada-nhl-teams-120209/

    What are your thoughts? If Seattle is passed over which city will get the next team?

    It wold be nice to see Les Nordiques de Québec (more commonly known as Nordiques) brought back to life.


    It would be nice. I'd bet on a second team in Toronto?


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    jim balsillie of blackberry fame tried to buy the phoenix coyotes and move them to hamilton, ontario.. the national hockey league filed legal papers to prevent him from doing so.. the toronto maple leafs would never allow another nhl franchise in their market.. i suspect that the next team on the move will indeed be the coyotes.. prolly to quebec city.. the isles might icon_rolleyes.gif move to brooklyn.. but charles wang doesnt really seem to know what to do at this point.. icon_confused.gif


    Isles moving to Brooklyn would be a way to save $... their arena is old and the Nets are already committed to Atlantic Yards or whatever Forest City Ratner is calling their arena in Brooklyn. But they would lose fans who won't drive there from Suffolk and try to find parking.
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:35 AM GMT
    As always, the nhl won't let another team in the US fold and move to Canada. They want the hockey-watching market to grow, so the team needs to stay in the US to build up more fans (since the Canadian market is already saturated).

    They would allow a new Canadian team to appear though if it was a start-up, where the owner would pay the massive fees to enter the nhl. But, no business want to do that.
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:02 AM GMT
    Quebecs biggest difficulty in having a franchise return to them is, they have no arena suitable for an NHL team. The old arena is in disrepair and not up to NHL standards, and I don;t remember if they actually started construction on the proposed new arena, I don;t think they have, but it wasn;t projected to be finished until like 2015.

    Quebec was the worst NHL market when they were around then, I doubt that they will actually get another team, especially with no arena for them to play at.
  • chill_surf

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    Feb 10, 2012 4:14 AM GMT
    Bale02 saidAs always, the nhl won't let another team in the US fold and move to Canada. They want the hockey-watching market to grow, so the team needs to stay in the US to build up more fans (since the Canadian market is already saturated).


    The Canadian market is definitely saturated. We cover junior hockey to death, we have hockey day in Canada, trade day is a fully covered all day, the all-star draft is covered in prime time! ENOUGH!

    Actually, I love watching hockey but tend to ignore all the BS behind the scenes. So I would love a team in Hamilton and Quebec, more of the real stuff to keep the pundits busy! So happy to have the Jets back!
  • adamhawks

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    Feb 10, 2012 4:18 AM GMT
    kaoi saidQuebecs biggest difficulty in having a franchise return to them is, they have no arena suitable for an NHL team. The old arena is in disrepair and not up to NHL standards, and I don;t remember if they actually started construction on the proposed new arena, I don;t think they have, but it wasn;t projected to be finished until like 2015.


    Thats a good enough reason I suppose for now... Quebec is nuts about their hockey, Maybe Im just looking at the habs fans and generalizing. I think once they have a suitable venue what is there to stop them? as for Hamilton, Steel town boasts a rather large grudge against TO. Im sure after the monstrous fees they would have to pay would be out weighed after a few season of being in Hamilton from the locals just switching franchise. Heck I would just because the leafs havent won in my life time. (not like Ottawa is any better but this year has hope).

    As for leaving franchises in the States arent most clubs having an issue of getting to 200 mil in revenue? Im sure (with no research) that moving a team to Quebec would make it to the top 15. Maybe move it further east, can Halifax or a eastern seaboard state bring in more money? Ive only been to a few Florida games and Ive seen more people in the crowd at OHL games.
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:27 AM GMT
    ^ one of the things i hope to do in Quebec is pick up hockey
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    adamhawks said
    As for leaving franchises in the States arent most clubs having an issue of getting to 200 mil in revenue? Im sure (with no research) that moving a team to Quebec would make it to the top 15. Maybe move it further east, can Halifax or a eastern seaboard state bring in more money? Ive only been to a few Florida games and Ive seen more people in the crowd at OHL games.


    Ya, the vast majority of the money that comes into the nhl is from the Canadian teams, but they're still looking to increase the fanbase in the US. According to the nhl, more viewers/people into hockey will benefit all the teams, instead of just letting a new team appear in Canada, which would only really benefit the owner of that team. It's a bullshit reason, since increased viewers only actually help the US teams, but this is all nhl politics in the end...

    I personally don't think Atlantic Canada or Quebec City could support a team, but what do I really know... I actually mostly think Quebec City just wants a team because of nostalgia, and for the never-to-die rivalry with Montreal and English Canada.

    Hamilton on the other hand would definitely make a killing with profit. They'd be stealing Toronto's fanbase and make it 10x more affordable (or even possible) to go to a game.
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
    GreenHopper said^ one of the things i hope to do in Quebec is pick up hockey


    I have no doubt you will learn very well, along with another thousand talents you'll add to your long list.
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    Bale02 said
    GreenHopper said^ one of the things i hope to do in Quebec is pick up hockey


    I have no doubt you will learn very well, along with another thousand talents you'll add to your long list.


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    Feb 10, 2012 4:59 AM GMT
    GreenHopper said
    Bale02 said
    GreenHopper said^ one of the things i hope to do in Quebec is pick up hockey


    I have no doubt you will learn very well, along with another thousand talents you'll add to your long list.


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    Gee thanks for embarrassing me

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  • shoelessj

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    Feb 13, 2012 7:36 PM GMT
    It'd be nice for seattle to get a team and it'd make for a good natural rivalry with vancouver but would the city/area support the team?

    otherwise, i don't know but don't maple leafs games routinely sell out anyway? remember a while back when folks wanted to bring major league baseball back to DC, the owner of the Baltimore Orioles was not going to let that happen -- but i guess the pot was sweetened for him; maybe the same can be done for the maple leafs owners.