Kidnapped!

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    Feb 10, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
    So this isn't the normal topic you might see in the threads.

    This particular subject hits very close to home for me because this is now the second time in my life that this has happened.

    http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/node/159694

    We are all deeply upset by this. Has something like this ever happened to anyone here? If so how did you cop with it? It's not a good feeling and we are seriously considering the worst case scenario since it's such a small community here and everyone knows everyone here.
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    WOW! So many views but no comments. Sorry this topic isn't about sex or something funny.
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:24 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidWOW! So many views but no comments. Sorry this topic isn't about sex or something funny.


    Likely because it's never happened to people here who have read your topic (so far), so they can't tell you how they coped with it.

    For example, it's never happened to me or anyone I know, so I can't tell about how I coped with it.






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    Feb 10, 2012 3:27 PM GMT
    I grew up in a small town of about 2,000 people (MUCH smaller than Anchorage).

    I know how you feel. I don't recall any abductions but there was a murder about ten years ago and although I didn't know that person directly, many of my friends did. It was devastating for the entire town.

    The best thing I can offer to you in coping is community. Spend time with them. Talk to them. Give and receive love from them.
  • Laurence

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    Feb 10, 2012 3:34 PM GMT
    Like Doug and Yogi, this has never happened to me or in any community I've lived in.

    I think you can only remain positive and pray for a happy outcome.

    Though you would be wise to prepare yourself for the worst case scenario here.

    What drives people to do these things is beyond me, I feel very sad for her family and friends.

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    Feb 10, 2012 3:48 PM GMT
    First off, thanks for the replies. It's extremely appreciated.

    Granted I know this might not have happened to a lot of people personally but I'm sure it's happened in someone's area in the Lower 48? This just really disturbs me.

    She went missing Wednesday night after closing the coffee shop and hasn't been seen since. This happened last week and now we are seriously considering the worst. This Saturday we are having a candle lighting for her and her safe return. I go to her coffee shop every Tuesday around 4pm and grab a frap and a cream cheese bagel. Done this for 2 years now. Service with a smile, some witty banter and then I go to the gym. Just a sweet girl.

    It just really bothers me because I want to know what possesses people to do things like this. This happened to me once before where I knew someone and they disappeared. I was 14 and living overseas. They shut the base down and we were on high alert for about a month. The person who went missing was a good friend of mine. She was found dead about a mile away from the highway. It shocked us all.

    I feel like I'm reliving this incident all over again and it really sucks.
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:52 PM GMT
    I carry a gun and practice krav maga.

    I won't get kidnapped.
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
    Haaretz saidI carry a gun and practice krav maga.

    I won't get kidnapped.


    You will if someone else is carrying a bigger gun and is better at krav maga then you.
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    Feb 10, 2012 3:57 PM GMT
    Guy101 said
    Haaretz saidI carry a gun and practice krav maga.

    I won't get kidnapped.


    You will if someone else is carrying a bigger gun and is better at krav maga then you.


    HAHAHAHAHAHA.

    You are too cute.
  • drypin

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    Feb 10, 2012 3:57 PM GMT
    This has to be one of the most agonizing experiences for the people who know and care for her. When we hurt, I think we naturally want to be able to act - at the very least get more information - and not having either option is a kind of torture.

    I feel so sorry for this young woman. I don't know how comparable Anchorage is to Fairfax, but I have a good friend in Fairfax and I know just how isolated many of the homes and cabins are... especially this time of year. I fervently hope that this situation resolves within itself soon and without violence.
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:10 PM GMT
    It's a pretty tight knit place here in Anchorage and places only become spread out once you leave the city limits.

    Everyone here was pretty pissed because the cops were slow to react. The most crucial time a in missing persons case in within 48 hours. The cops decided to wait til the last minute before considering this case worthy to investigate it seems. There's a hefty reward for her return and we just now got the police to release the video of her closing up the shop and then seeing a strange man walk up and abduct her.

    It's really scary. I thought I could handle this better.
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    Feb 10, 2012 4:41 PM GMT
    Every time i read or hear stories like this i get nervous for my sister and my girl friends that work late and like to party...
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    it's not the size of the gun, it's how you use it!! ( did that sound sexual?)
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidSo this isn't the normal topic you might see in the threads.

    This particular subject hits very close to home for me because this is now the second time in my life that this has happened.

    http://community.adn.com/?q=adn/node/159694

    We are all deeply upset by this. Has something like this ever happened to anyone here? If so how did you cop with it? It's not a good feeling and we are seriously considering the worst case scenario since it's such a small community here and everyone knows everyone here.


    They need to carry guns, or get the fuck out of that business.
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:19 PM GMT
    No offense but you can't just walk around carrying guns everywhere and that really isn't the best answer for this situation. I'd appreciate it if you actually put a little more thought into this situation before making light of it and making it seem like merely carrying a gun would solve the problem.

    Do you carry a gun for your job? If not then I suggest you get out of your business or profession. Ass.
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:22 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidNo offense but you can't just walk around carrying guns everywhere and that really isn't the best answer for this situation. I'd appreciate it if you actually put a little more thought into this situation before making light of it and making it seem like merely carrying a gun would solve the problem.


    Shut yer hole. I read the article. The one chick said she relies on "hand-held protection. We’ll just leave it at that."

    Why is this woman so afraid saying she carries a gun? It's her right under the second amendment. Sounds to me like she's been cowed by white Liberals who think guns are "icky."

    Say it loud, say it proud: "I'M PACKIN HEAT."

    No, I don't carry a gun at my job. There is no danger of being attacked at my job.
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:23 PM GMT
    My uncle was kidnapped and held for ransom as a little boy in the early 50's. He was my mom's little brother. He was taken on a morning while with his nurse out on a street. The boy was found about a week later - cold and in poor condition. He died. The perp. was caught and sent to San Quentin Prison.

    My grandfather had helped finance and start UAL back in the late 20's and was in the news too much in those days, he said. From then on - my grandparents went with a plan of privacy - no news stories or pictures in the papers anymore (if they could help it). This was a hard situation for our family. The little boy died at age 3, and would be in his 60's now. I never got to meet him. I've seen a cedar chest full of framed photos and home movies of my uncle. He looked a whole lot like me. I was born several years after the kidnapping. My grandparents took me in and raised me - and I sort of took the place of the boy they lost. In my childhood I was watched constantly. There were (are) high fences around our property. I didn't have any freedom to ride my bike anywhere I wanted. I had to beg to be able to ride my bike to school - - - and even then I had to have someone follow right behind me in the station wagon.. It was embarrassing having to explain that to my friends. My uncle's kidnapping and death was a big setback in our family.
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
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    Guy101 saidNo offense but you can't just walk around carrying guns everywhere and that really isn't the best answer for this situation. I'd appreciate it if you actually put a little more thought into this situation before making light of it and making it seem like merely carrying a gun would solve the problem.


    Shut yer hole. I read the article. The one chick said she relies on "hand-held protection. We’ll just leave it at that."

    Why is this woman so afraid saying she carries a gun? It's her right under the second amendment. Sounds to me like she's been cowed by white Liberals who think guns are "icky."

    Say it loud, say it proud: "I'M PACKIN HEAT."

    No, I don't carry a gun at my job. There is no danger of being attacked at my job.


    Exactly. There was no danger of her being attacked at her job or so she thought. Now she has ended up missing and in a state like Alaska where lots of people carry guns that doesn't really do much good now does it because 9x out of 10 if you are packing heat so is everybody else which puts you back at square 1?

    Try thinking a little bit before speaking. Also way to assume she meant gun. She could've meant a taser or a knife. Way to jump the gun, buddy.
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    Feb 10, 2012 5:53 PM GMT
    It happens from time to time in our area (a few small towns of about 5000 or less.) Friends put up posters for about a year, but eventually it all fades away. I'm afraid that if some trace doesn't turn up in a week or so, it never will.

    There's also some worry about the kidnapping-for-profit trend migrating up from Mexico. A lot of people seem to think that anyone who owns farm land must be rich. (Rarely the case around here.) A couple of disgruntled farm hands tried kidnapping one of my neighbors a few years ago. They were flummoxed when they found out that he didn't have any money. Eventually, he got loose and beat the kidnappers half to death before he called the cops.

    Anyway, we've started to take precautions. I'm still a bit bemused that my nieces need "rides" to go everywhere. Even a mile down the road. They aren't allowed to walk or ride their bikes on the county road. At their age, I was roaming all over the countryside. I suppose things are different if you're a little blonde girl, instead of an ugly little boy.
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidTry thinking a little bit before speaking. Also way to assume she meant gun. She could've meant a taser or a knife. Way to jump the gun, buddy.
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:51 PM GMT
    Guy101 saidNo offense but you can't just walk around carrying guns everywhere and that really isn't the best answer for this situation. I'd appreciate it if you actually put a little more thought into this situation before making light of it and making it seem like merely carrying a gun would solve the problem.

    Do you carry a gun for your job? If not then I suggest you get out of your business or profession. Ass.


    I live in Colorado.

    We can carry guns anywhere, with federal buildings and installations as one of very few exception.

    And yes, I carry a gun as part of my job.

    Hope that helps.
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    Feb 10, 2012 10:57 PM GMT
    Guy101 said
    Try thinking a little bit before speaking.


    Asking Jack to do that is a bit like asking the tide not to come in.
  • araphael

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    Feb 11, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    In your post you use the plural pronoun "we" which catches my attention. But I deal with people on a daily basis who have dealt with different, and real, traumas. Perhaps you should ask your question, if sincere, differently.