Media Matters, White House ally in media strategy, gets taken down

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    Feb 15, 2012 6:55 AM GMT
    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/02/14/paranoia-of-david-brock/

    Reading the Daily Caller’s stellar investigative series into Media Matters, the organization begins to sound less like a left-wing media watchdog and more like a drug cartel in the days before the feds close in. There are armed bodyguards, fears of sniper assassins, enemy lists and talk of sending private eyes to follow around high-profile adversaries. All this at a non-profit organization.

    It’s no wonder Media Matters’ head David Brock comes off as an unhinged paranoid in the story. When you stake your career on dirty tricks and smear tactics, you start expecting everyone else is out to do the same to you. As the Caller reports, Media Matters was apparently so obsessed with digging up dirt on Fox News it considered hiring detectives to track its employees. To Brock, the declaration that his organization was at “war with Fox News” wasn’t hyperbole – his personal assistant reportedly carried a Glock to prove it.

    But behind the colorful detail, there’s also a serious story about media manipulation. In one memo obtained by the Caller, a top Media Matters staffer writes about its plan to turn the Murdoch phone-hacking scandal into major U.S. news


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    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/guns-sex-and-msnbc-daily-caller-publishes-media-matters-expose/
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    Feb 15, 2012 11:47 AM GMT
    This is the most ridiculous non-story in the history of right-wing fantasy "journalism."
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:44 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThis is the most ridiculous non-story in the history of right-wing fantasy "journalism."


    Yep - because just as Media Matters was lobbying and advocating for greater gun control, they were also paying for armed guards for their paranoid head David Brock. Yup, nothing to see here icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 15, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidThis is the most ridiculous non-story in the history of right-wing fantasy "journalism."


    Yep - because just as Media Matters was lobbying and advocating for greater gun control, they were also paying for armed guards for their paranoid head David Brock. Yup, nothing to see here icon_rolleyes.gif


    Media Matters doesn't "lobby" for gun control. In fact, they don't lobby at all. Besides, having armed body guards and lobbying for gun control are not mutually exclusive positions. Most gun control laws are to prevent someone who is a criminal, mentally ill, etc from obtaining a gun through background checks, waiting periods, etc.
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    Feb 15, 2012 8:23 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidThis is the most ridiculous non-story in the history of right-wing fantasy "journalism."


    Yep - because just as Media Matters was lobbying and advocating for greater gun control, they were also paying for armed guards for their paranoid head David Brock. Yup, nothing to see here icon_rolleyes.gif


    Media Matters doesn't "lobby" for gun control. In fact, they don't lobby at all. Besides, having armed body guards and lobbying for gun control are not mutually exclusive positions. Most gun control laws are to prevent someone who is a criminal, mentally ill, etc from obtaining a gun through background checks, waiting periods, etc.


    So says the guy who is even against having any form of photo ID to vote. Lobby/advocate for - toe-may-toe - toe-mah-toe.
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    Feb 15, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
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    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidThis is the most ridiculous non-story in the history of right-wing fantasy "journalism."


    Yep - because just as Media Matters was lobbying and advocating for greater gun control, they were also paying for armed guards for their paranoid head David Brock. Yup, nothing to see here icon_rolleyes.gif


    Media Matters doesn't "lobby" for gun control. In fact, they don't lobby at all. Besides, having armed body guards and lobbying for gun control are not mutually exclusive positions. Most gun control laws are to prevent someone who is a criminal, mentally ill, etc from obtaining a gun through background checks, waiting periods, etc.


    So says the guy who is even against having any form of photo ID to vote. Lobby/advocate for - toe-may-toe - toe-mah-toe.


    Another complete non sequitur. Are you posting in the right thread?
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    Feb 17, 2012 4:43 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidRiddler ignores---or perhaps doesn't know the reason---that David Brock needs armed guards.

    See, he used to be a conservative. Then we woke up out of his coma. Now they hate him. He lives with constant death threats.

    This is what conservatives do to people who try to leave the cult.
    They're sick.
    And Riddler is "exhibit A".


    Yup.
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:05 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidRiddler ignores---or perhaps doesn't know the reason---that David Brock needs armed guards.

    See, he used to be a conservative. Then we woke up out of his coma. Now they hate him. He lives with constant death threats.

    This is what conservatives do to people who try to leave the cult.
    They're sick.
    And Riddler is "exhibit A".


    Of all the people here I can imagine shooting down their ideological opponents, almost all of them are liberals and you'd be on that list icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:53 AM GMT
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    riddler78 saidOf all the people here I can imagine shooting down their ideological opponents, almost all of them are liberals and you'd be on that list icon_rolleyes.gif

    Funny how every single crazy person who's gone on a shooting spree has been a right-wing sicko.

    You're really a disgusting person.


    Wrong again - do you actually bother with the facts or do they also bother you so much as to necessitate lying and thinking that no one will notice?

    Given that that's the case, it certainly would seem that makes you either the disgusting person or perhaps the stupid one... or then again quite probably both. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I just hope you just keep it to words when you yell at the kids to get off your lawn.
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    Feb 17, 2012 7:45 AM GMT
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    riddler78 said
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    riddler78 saidOf all the people here I can imagine shooting down their ideological opponents, almost all of them are liberals and you'd be on that list icon_rolleyes.gif

    Funny how every single crazy person who's gone on a shooting spree has been a right-wing sicko.

    You're really a disgusting person.


    Wrong again - do you actually bother with the facts or do they also bother you so much as to necessitate lying and thinking that no one will notice?

    Given that that's the case, it certainly would seem that makes you either the disgusting person or perhaps the stupid one... or then again quite probably both. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I just hope you just keep it to words when you yell at the kids to get off your lawn.

    Really? Name one 'liberal' who's gone on a shooting spree. The murderer of Dr.Tiller? Nope, righty. The guy who shot up the Holocaust memorial? Nope, righty. The guy who shot Gabrielle Giffords? Psychotic and rightwing, though that's kind of redundant.

    You're not only stupid, you're deeply dishonest. I mean the kind of dishonesty that can't even help lying. Pathological sickness dishonest. And your unwonted arrogance coupled with it is what makes you disgusting.


    Lol - what an idiot you must be. Yeah, Jared Loughner, who cited the Communist Manifesto as one of his favorite books was a right wing psychotic icon_rolleyes.gif. Even people who knew him said after the media bothered to ask, that they believed he was "left-wing".

    Do you bother to keep up with the facts? Or do they just happen too quickly for you to keep up for your age addled mind?
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    Feb 17, 2012 7:54 AM GMT
    Oh oops, Obama-supporter Amy Bishop took a gun to work and murdered co-workers:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting
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    Feb 17, 2012 7:54 AM GMT
    Oh oops - anti-conservative Joseph Stack flies his plane into the IRS building:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/austin-plane-crash-office_n_467264.html
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    Feb 17, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    Oh oops, "African American man beaten by SEIU Union Thugs in St. Louis at townhall protest"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr_4ZWEFOjQ

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    Feb 17, 2012 7:57 AM GMT
    Oh oops, "Texas Man Sentenced for Possessing Molotov Cocktails During Republican National Convention"

    On May 14, in Minneapolis, U.S.
    District Court Chief Judge Michael Davis sentenced Bradley Neal Crowder to 24
    months in prison and three years of supervised release on one count of
    possession of a destructive device. Crowder was indicted on Sept. 22, 2008,
    and pleaded guilty on Jan. 8, 2009.
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    Feb 17, 2012 8:03 AM GMT
    riddler - I was going to make a thread on the same story, but did not bother because of the typical spin and deflection here. Doesn't matter.

    Interesting read from Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, who was a key supporter of Obama in 2008

    …So don’t confuse these bigots with liberals. They’re not. They’re extremists, they’re way, way beyond the pale. And any association with the Obama administration is going to hurt the Obama administration. There is not enough room under the big tent for people like me…and the bigots of Media Matters. The Obama administration is going to have to choose. … (Of course the administration will not choose and try and have it both ways, just like voting "Present".)
    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2012/02/15/dershowitz-vote-for-obama-media-matters/

    MediaMatters is damaged, but the real damage is their association with the White House, more fodder for the general election. While many of the guys here are watching every zig and zag of the Republican Primary process, the quiet job of locking and loading for the election continues.
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    Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM GMT
    trolling for Dummies

    take the most asinine thought that you have in the back of your head and start searching the most amateurish biased websites that you can find

    .... and VIOLA you got yourself a trolled thesis

    Case in point
    The website Commentary? That you posted from?
    Is a rightwing lunatic site
    No? Don't believe me? Well let's just take a gander at their other headlines in this issue

    ObamaCare at the Supreme Court

    The Payroll Tax Holiday from Hell

    The Worldwide Attack on Christians

    Condi's Lessons

    Commentary is a monthly American magazine on politics, Judaism, social and cultural issues. It was founded by the American Jewish Committee in 1945. By 1960 its editor was Norman Podhoretz, a liberal at the time who moved sharply to the right in the 1970s and 1980s becoming a strong voice for the anti-communist left. The magazine was one of the leading voices of neoconservatism by 1976, and remains so today, although in the 21st century it has less influence than beforet
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    Feb 17, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
    And the intellectual dishonesty continues with riddler pointing to:

    1) A completely apolitical workplace violence issue
    2) Joe Stack, whose politics closely resemble the Tea Party, not the Left
    3) Conflating a fist fight with multiple assassinations is just silly.
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidOh right, quoting Fox. How convincing.

    And Jared Loughner is a leftist? You do live on some odd planet.

    Don't you worry about my age-addled brain. It works better in decline than yours ever will at its peak. In fact, if I were to develop Alzheimer's my brain would still work better than yours. No, wait---if I were in a COMA, my brain would still work better than yours. And, in fact, after I'm DEAD, my brain will still work better than yours ever has.

    But really, smarts aren't the point here. The point here is your complete lack of moral underpinning. You're not disgusting because you're stupid, you're disgusting because you have no sense of right and wrong, no manners, no character, and you don't give a shit about anyone or anything other than yourself.

    You are an insult to every molecule of oxygen you suck into your lungs.


    Er yes, that would be what your brain would tell you lol icon_lol.gif

    Forget the fact that you've been proven wrong almost consistently but hey, I must be the morally corrupt one even though you're the one caught in a lie? Better luck next time icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidAnd the intellectual dishonesty continues with riddler pointing to:

    1) A completely apolitical workplace violence issue
    2) Joe Stack, whose politics closely resemble the Tea Party, not the Left
    3) Conflating a fist fight with multiple assassinations is just silly.


    Yes because it is completely intellectually honest to suggest only right wingers can be responsible for violence which was your mentally challenged friend's point. But hey - let's accuse me of being intellectually dishonest.

    Allow me to quote: "Funny how every single crazy person who's gone on a shooting spree has been a right-wing sicko."

    Sorry, in the very least I've proven this is not the case. Too bad you're not intellectually honest enough to recognize that. Though of course these points are all diversionary to the fact that Media Matters is becoming a laughing stock and tainting the White House with it, with whom it collaborated closely.


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    Feb 17, 2012 5:20 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidAnd the intellectual dishonesty continues with riddler pointing to:

    1) A completely apolitical workplace violence issue
    2) Joe Stack, whose politics closely resemble the Tea Party, not the Left
    3) Conflating a fist fight with multiple assassinations is just silly.


    Yes because it is completely intellectually honest to suggest only right wingers can be responsible for violence which was your mentally challenged friend's point. But hey - let's accuse me of being intellectually dishonest.

    Allow me to quote: "Funny how every single crazy person who's gone on a shooting spree has been a right-wing sicko."

    Sorry, in the very least I've proven this is not the case. Too bad you're not intellectually honest enough to recognize that. Though of course these points are all diversionary to the fact that Media Matters is becoming a laughing stock and tainting the White House with it, with whom it collaborated closely.




    You remain intellectually dishonest by putting forward a series of false equivalencies. No one is saying the Left has no history of violence but in the past 20+ years the vast majority of series political violence has been from the right-wing in this country.

    And Media Matters hasn't done anything on the left that Fairness and Accuracy in Media or the Media Research Center haven't also done on the right.

    This is a non-story.
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    Christian73 said...This is a non-story.

    To you it's a non-story. To many others it is a big story, and as its ties to the White House is emphasized in some very penetrating ads in coming months, it will be for many even more of a story.
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    Christian73 said
    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidAnd the intellectual dishonesty continues with riddler pointing to:

    1) A completely apolitical workplace violence issue
    2) Joe Stack, whose politics closely resemble the Tea Party, not the Left
    3) Conflating a fist fight with multiple assassinations is just silly.


    Yes because it is completely intellectually honest to suggest only right wingers can be responsible for violence which was your mentally challenged friend's point. But hey - let's accuse me of being intellectually dishonest.

    Allow me to quote: "Funny how every single crazy person who's gone on a shooting spree has been a right-wing sicko."

    Sorry, in the very least I've proven this is not the case. Too bad you're not intellectually honest enough to recognize that. Though of course these points are all diversionary to the fact that Media Matters is becoming a laughing stock and tainting the White House with it, with whom it collaborated closely.




    You remain intellectually dishonest by putting forward a series of false equivalencies. No one is saying the Left has no history of violence but in the past 20+ years the vast majority of series political violence has been from the right-wing in this country.

    And Media Matters hasn't done anything on the left that Fairness and Accuracy in Media or the Media Research Center haven't also done on the right.

    This is a non-story.


    Me thinks the lady doth protest too much ;) . The level of hypocrisy and coordination with the White House is news - especially of a not for profit organization whose status is now in question.
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    Feb 17, 2012 5:59 PM GMT
    Why is a paper ... Or a website .... Headed by Tucker Carlsen trying to go after the founder of Media Matters?
    .... And one of their main arguments in the article was theat media matters was in COLLUSION with the NAACP in its argument with the racist manecalling that came from Don Imus
    As if that wasn't news and that he didn't need to get his racist ass FIRED
    THATS WHAT THE NAACP IS FOR.... To stop that kind of thing from happening

    So Puhleeeeeeze ...... Let's TRY to get topics that are not COMPLETELY made up in the rightwing tinfoil cap blogoshere
    I know it's hard for a certain group of people .... But a real story THIS IS NOT
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    Feb 17, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said...This is a non-story.

    To you it's a non-story. To many others it is a big story, and as its ties to the White House is emphasized in some very penetrating ads in coming months, it will be for many even more of a story.

    Only to the already brainwashed. The real America sees this as yet another example of the faux-outrage machine at work.

    We will see how this plays with moderates.
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    Feb 17, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    JPtheBITCH said
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 said...This is a non-story.

    To you it's a non-story. To many others it is a big story, and as its ties to the White House is emphasized in some very penetrating ads in coming months, it will be for many even more of a story.

    Only to the already brainwashed. The real America sees this as yet another example of the faux-outrage machine at work.

    We will see how this plays with moderates.


    Plays with the who?

    The only people willing to listen to this crap are carbon copies of YOU

    Anyone else can seee this heap from a MILE AWAY