Increased agressiveness and working out. Is there a link?

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    Feb 15, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
    Whenever I stop working out for more than two weeks, I become calm and generally more patient. As soon as I start working out I feel great and very energetic. The down-side is that I also become more aggressive and have more difficulty controlling my temper.
    Please note that the only supplements I take are a multivitamin, my omega 3's and the occasional vitamin C. I don't take steroids, protein shakes or anything else. My diet is based on unrefined, unprocessed foods, lots of veggies, fruits nuts and fish/chicken/eggs. I'll have one serving of red meat only once every two weeks.

    Does anyone else notice that they become more aggressive icon_evil.gif or short-tempered when they start working out after a period of rest? Do you know why this happens?
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    Feb 15, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
    I do find that I'm more aggressive since working out... In the bedroom.
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    Feb 15, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
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    Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM GMT
    I don't know, I actually feel mentally relaxed after working out.
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    Feb 15, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
    Working out develops muscle mass -> More muscle mass spurs the body to produce more testosterone -> An effect of testosterone is to enhance secondary male characteristics, like aggression.

    There's probably a study out there confirming this but I'm not going to look for it.
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    Feb 15, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
    Oddly I have the opposite problem. When I have the time to work out regularly I sleep better and am in a better mood. When I can't (like now) I am irritable.
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
    After I work out, I do feel a little more aggressive and want to challenge my friends to a sparring match. It's a running joke with us since I'm 45 and they are in their 20's and 30's. On the other hand, I feel more calm and can handle the stress of my job better. My creativity goes off the charts.

    When I'm not working out, I get irritable, cranky, bitchy and whiny. My reading and writing suffers. I feel less confident and less of a man. I know it sounds kind of silly. When I don't work out, I feel less masculine.
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:11 PM GMT
    njmeanwhile saidOddly I have the opposite problem. When I have the time to work out regularly I sleep better and am in a better mood. When I can't (like now) I am irritable.
    Same here.
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM GMT
    Martin_Maros saidWhenever I stop working out for more than two weeks, I become calm and generally more patient. As soon as I start working out I feel great and very energetic. The down-side is that I also become more aggressive and have more difficulty controlling my temper.
    Please note that the only supplements I take are a multivitamin, my omega 3's and the occasional vitamin C. I don't take steroids, protein shakes or anything else. My diet is based on unrefined, unprocessed foods, lots of veggies, fruits nuts and fish/chicken/eggs. I'll have one serving of red meat only once every two weeks.

    Does anyone else notice that they become more aggressive icon_evil.gif or short-tempered when they start working out after a period of rest? Do you know why this happens?
    Here's a suggestion: One of the unrecognized pitfalls of a low-meat, super healthy diet is under-calorization. You may need to add more healthy fat or protein to your diet. Depending on how much your workouts affect your body, you may slip into a mild low blood sugar (LBS) condition more often without realizing it, which could be cured with more fat and protein. Lack of calories and/or LBS will certainly make you more cranky, snappy, and agressive at times.
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:41 PM GMT
    Martin_Maros saidWhenever I stop working out for more than two weeks, I become calm and generally more patient. As soon as I start working out I feel great and very energetic. The down-side is that I also become more aggressive and have more difficulty controlling my temper.
    Please note that the only supplements I take are a multivitamin, my omega 3's and the occasional vitamin C. I don't take steroids, protein shakes or anything else. My diet is based on unrefined, unprocessed foods, lots of veggies, fruits nuts and fish/chicken/eggs. I'll have one serving of red meat only once every two weeks.

    Does anyone else notice that they become more aggressive icon_evil.gif or short-tempered when they start working out after a period of rest? Do you know why this happens?
    Sounds like overtraining.
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    Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM GMT
    Overall going to the gym makes me more outspoken and assertive. Which, you could say is aggressive. I naturally am like this, but it's been suppressed for years due to lack of confidence on my end. Which, I have since resolved a good portion of so I feel like the gym has allowed me to be more myself, which is more on the "aggressive" side.
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    Feb 15, 2012 4:49 PM GMT
    tautomer4314 saidOverall going to the gym makes me more outspoken and assertive. Which, you could say is aggressive. I naturally am like this, but it's been suppressed for years due to lack of confidence on my end. Which, I have since resolved a good portion of so I feel like the gym has allowed me to be more myself, which is more on the "aggressive" side.


    I definitely agree with this. Lately after lifting I've been feeling really good. I can feel the endorphins and I can see some changes so I it makes me feel good, more confident, and in turn makes me more assertive. I feel that this is an increase in testosterone but it only lasts for like 2-3 hours and then it dwindles, thus making me want to work out more frequently/longer because I enjoy the feelings I have been getting from lifting... kinda like anger management.

    Aggressiveness on my part is not usually a good thing as I have a temper that would compete with the best of them, and so I have to really keep my "aggression" in check- but the gym does allow me to be more assertive/confident and the endorphins/feelings of a good workout help that.
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    Feb 15, 2012 5:03 PM GMT
    The original poster's results are atypical.

    Exercise has a calming, stress-relieving, effect on most. Endorphins come with exercise.

    Likely, the OP has a mind set that he's thinking. That's called placebo effect.

    Intense exercise does NOT raise testosterone. In fact, it LOWERS IT. In folks who work out with high intensity, testosterone levels can approach zero. Therein lies the attraction of AAS.

    If you haven't viewed it yet, you should: "The Human Machine" It will help you to understand these mechanisms.

    A reminder, much of what you find here is pure garbage, devoid of science. Take that into account as you read it.
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    Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidThe original poster's results are atypical.

    Exercise has a calming, stress-relieving, effect on most. Endorphins come with exercise.

    Likely, the OP has a mind set that he's thinking. That's called placebo effect.

    Intense exercise does NOT raise testosterone. In fact, it LOWERS IT. In folks who work out with high intensity, testosterone levels can approach zero. Therein lies the attraction of AAS.

    If you haven't view it yet, you should: "The Human Machine" It will help you to understand these mechanisms.

    A reminder, much of what you find here is pure garbage, devoid of science. Take that into account as you read it.


    hmm... good to know. I do feel like the workouts I've been doing have been giving me more energy during the day/helping me sleep better at night though. But thanks for the info!
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    Feb 15, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    I’m in the gym later in the evening because I’m still working to the minute I leave so I end up 9 ish to 11:30pm or so or sometimes even later. Sometimes one of the guys who works there needs someone to workout with him after the gym closes. I get a huge endorphin buzz only on the days I lift and not pure cardio days. The days I box or bball in addition to cardio are unpredictable depending how stupid hard I push myself. I know people of all ages in the gym, but tend to work with a bunch from age 18 or 19 to mid 20s. That’s makes bball and sometime boxing more difficult. Strength and endurance aren’t down, in fact up, but you just don’t move quit as fast when you’re double or triple the age of everyone around me. Boxing is a kick ass workout by the way and something I probably should have stopped 20 or 30 years ago. I’m pretty hyper aggressive anyway because the business I’m in so I need the gym so it will back me off a bit. The endorphin buzz I get on strength training days make feel wonderful with lucidity and clarity that I don’t have otherwise. Problem is that when I get home I can’t sleep for hours. I’m pretty much always too aggressive, but not as unpleasantly so when high on endorphins.
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    Feb 15, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
    scribbler1000 saidAfter I work out, I do feel a little more aggressive and want to challenge my friends to a sparring match. It's a running joke with us since I'm 45 and they are in their 20's and 30's. On the other hand, I feel more calm and can handle the stress of my job better. My creativity goes off the charts.

    When I'm not working out, I get irritable, cranky, bitchy and whiny. My reading and writing suffers. I feel less confident and less of a man. I know it sounds kind of silly. When I don't work out, I feel less masculine.


    "I feel more calm and can handle the stress of my job better. My creativity goes off the charts."

    Very much agree.
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    Feb 15, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    I'm bossy and assertive all the time.
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    Feb 15, 2012 6:16 PM GMT
    Sounds like a case of Dr. Jackal and Mr. Hyde...

    I know that when I don't work out, like now trying to pack on some pounds with my sister's homestyle cooking; that I get sluggish, moody, and irritable. Once I get back into the gym from my 4 month absence to turn this fat into muscle again I'll be back to bedlam and so loaded up on endorphins that the lat/row machine cable hog guys won't even get on my nerves!
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    Feb 15, 2012 9:50 PM GMT
    knowwonder saidSounds like a case of Dr. Jackal and Mr. Hyde...

    I know that when I don't work out, like now trying to pack on some pounds with my sister's homestyle cooking; that I get sluggish, moody, and irritable. Once I get back into the gym from my 4 month absence to turn this fat into muscle again I'll be back to bedlam and so loaded up on endorphins that the lat/row machine cable hog guys won't even get on my nerves!


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    Just walk by and 'crop dust' them. Nuttin like a good wet fart to clear the area out.

    Seriously though, they’re always the type that has ear buds so they don’t have to have any human interaction ….. so they won’t hear you. Just sneak up behind them and sneak one out and then run. They’ll get the hint after a couple of times.
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    Feb 15, 2012 10:07 PM GMT
    Animus saidThere's probably a study out there confirming this but I'm not going to look for it.


    This study on rats found that they were less aggressive when able to exercise and more aggressive when unable to exercise:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163104787904614

    This study found a coorelation between decreased aggressiveness and exercise in joggers:

    http://www.amsciepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.1989.68.3c.1191

    Irritability could also be a sign of over-training like someone else mentioned though... or maybe the OP is just an aggressive individual. Too many variables play into mood to speculate.
  • TheBizMan

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    Feb 15, 2012 10:13 PM GMT
    After a workout or sometimes even before, I feel pumped up and energetic as if I were about to play some bball. This causes me to be a little more pushy, arrogant and all around more competitive. I feel "bigger" than the other person (which is far from the truth in most cases ) . I percieve this as just a natural thing in guys. When we feel more powerful, we may act more hot-headed and unstable...

    That's just my take on it.icon_idea.gif
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    Feb 16, 2012 3:55 AM GMT
    Working out makes me more optimistic and therefore more assertive. But that also means I am more willing to keep pushing for a solution to a problem rather than just saying "fuck off," so I think I end up less aggressive.
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    Feb 16, 2012 6:45 AM GMT
    with any competition, workout, contest, or simple no rules game of football or even kickball, I get SUPER AGRESSIVE. I am a rusher. Idky I just get like that.
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    Feb 16, 2012 10:57 AM GMT
    Like some people have said before, I actually get the opposite. I don't know what's wrong with me but I'm very restless. Like it feels like this weird energy in my body trying to get out and it's very uncomfortable. When I don't exercise, I usually end up bending my own fingers, biting myself, stomp my own feet, punching walls. And it's not really about aggression as much as when I feel pain it's like that weird feeling I otherwise have is channeled into focusing on pain.

    ...

    This sounds very disturbing when I actually put it in text and when I read it haha. But what I want to say, pushing to the limit while exercising kind of has the same effect, so it helps me alleviate... whatever it is I have.
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    Feb 16, 2012 11:14 AM GMT
    I think there's a psychological connection between the increase in confidence and being more assertive. I know that since I've started working out, I am more assertive (not necessarily aggressive). I think it comes from the added confidence.

    On the other hand, I do feel more relaxed and focused after a workout.

    Is the OP taking any supplements that might be making a difference?