Interracial Marriage Hits a new High in US - what about gay relationship aspect?

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    Feb 16, 2012 2:42 PM GMT
    WASHINGTON — Interracial marriages in the U.S. have climbed to 4.8 million — a record 1 in 12 — as a steady flow of new Asian and Hispanic immigrants expands the pool of prospective spouses. Blacks are now substantially more likely than before to marry whites.

    A Pew Research Center study, released Thursday, details a diversifying America where interracial unions and the mixed-race children they produce are challenging typical notions of race.

    "The rise in interracial marriage indicates that race relations have improved over the past quarter century," said Daniel Lichter, a sociology professor at Cornell University. "Mixed-race children have blurred America's color line. They often interact with others on either side of the racial divide and frequently serve as brokers between friends and family members of different racial backgrounds," he said. "But America still has a long way to go."

    The figures come from previous censuses as well as the 2008-2010 American Community Survey, which surveys 3 million households annually. The figures for "white" refer to those whites who are not of Hispanic ethnicity. For purposes of defining interracial marriages, Hispanic is counted as a race by many in the demographic field.

    The study finds that 8.4 percent of all current U.S. marriages are interracial, up from 3.2 percent in 1980. While Hispanics and Asians remained the most likely, as in previous decades, to marry someone of a different race, the biggest jump in share since 2008 occurred among blacks, who historically have been the most segregated.

    States in the West where Asian and Hispanic immigrants are more numerous, including Hawaii, Nevada, New Mexico and California, were among the most likely to have couples who "marry out" — more than 1 in 5. The West was followed by the South, Northeast and Midwest. By state, mostly white Vermont had the lowest rate of intermarriage, at 4 percent.

    In all, more than 15 percent of new marriages in 2010 were interracial.

    The numbers also coincide with Pew survey data showing greater public acceptance of mixed marriage, coming nearly half a century after the Supreme Court in 1967 barred race-based restrictions on marriage. (In 2000, Alabama became the last state to lift its unenforceable ban on interracial marriages.) About 83 percent of Americans say it is "all right for blacks and whites to date each other," up from 48 percent in 1987. As a whole, about 63 percent of those surveyed say it "would be fine" if a family member were to marry outside their own race.

    Minorities, young adults, the higher educated and those living in Western or Northeast states were more likely to say mixed marriages are a change for the better for society. The figure was 61 percent for 18- to 29-year-olds, for instance, compared to 28 percent for those 65 and older.

    Due to increasing interracial marriages, multiracial Americans are a small but fast-growing demographic group, making up about 9 million, or 8 percent of the minority population. Together with blacks, Hispanics and Asians, the Census Bureau estimates they collectively will represent a majority of the U.S. population by mid-century.

    "Race is a social construct; race isn't real," said Jonathan Brent, 28. The son of a white father and Japanese-American mother, Brent helped organize multiracial groups in southern California and believes his background helps him understand situations from different perspectives.

    Brent, now a lawyer in Charlottesville, Va., says at varying points in his life he has identified with being white, Japanese and more recently as someone of mixed ethnic background. He doesn't feel constrained with whom he socially interacts or dates.

    "Race is becoming a personal thing. It is what I feel like I am," he said.

    According to the Pew report, more than 25 percent of Hispanics and Asians who married in 2010 had a spouse of a different race. That's compared to 17.1 percent of blacks and 9.4 percent of whites. Of the 275,500 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43 percent were white-Hispanic couples, 14.4 percent were white-Asian, 11.9 percent were white-black, and the remainder were other combinations.

    Still, the share of Asians who intermarried has actually declined recently — from 30.5 percent in 2008 to 27.7 percent in 2010. In contrast, blacks who married outside their race increased in share from 15.5 percent to 17.1 percent, due in part to a rising black middle class that has more interaction with other races.

    Intermarriage among whites rose in share slightly, while among Hispanics the rate was flat, at roughly 25.7 percent.

    "In the past century, intermarriage has evolved from being illegal, to be a taboo and then to be merely unusual. And with each passing year, it becomes less unusual," said Paul Taylor, director of Pew's Social & Demographic Trends project. "That says a lot about the state of race relations. Behaviors have changed and attitudes have changed."

    He noted that interracial marriages among Hispanics and Asians may be slowing somewhat as recent immigration and their rapid population growth provide minorities more ethnically similar partners to choose from. But Taylor believes the longer-term trend of intermarriage is likely to continue.

    "For younger Americans, racial and ethnic diversity are a part of their lives," he said.

    The Pew study also tracks some divorce trends, citing studies using government data that found overall divorce rates higher for interracial couples. One study conducted a decade ago determined that mixed-race couples had a 41 percent chance of separation or divorce, compared to a 31 percent chance for those who married within their race.

    Another analysis found divorce rates among mixed-race couples to be more dependent on the specific race combination, with white women who married outside their race more likely to divorce. Mixed marriages involving blacks and whites also were considered least stable, followed by Hispanic-white couples.

    Other findings:

    _Broken down by gender, black men were more than twice as likely as black women to marry someone outside their race — 24 percent to 9 percent. The reverse held true for Asian men — 17 percent intermarried, compared to 36 percent among Asian women.

    _White-Asian couples who married had the highest median income, nearly $71,000. Behind them were the following race combinations: Asian-Asian ($62,000), white-white ($60,000), white-Hispanic ($57,900), white-black ($53,187), black-black ($47,700) and Hispanic-Hispanic (nearly $36,000).

    _The top three states for white-black married couples are Virginia, North Carolina and Kansas, all with rates of about 3 percent.

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    Online:

    http://pewsocialtrends.org/

    http://www.census.gov/




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    Feb 16, 2012 3:53 PM GMT
    People are marrying extraterrestrials?

    Last time I checked, there was only one race on Earth.
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    Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM GMT
    Being that I'm the product of an interracial couple including a very multi-racial mother, I am liking this. I really thought there were a lot of us before I moved to ny, but I've been shocked to find out I'm kinda rare. The first thing I'm asked when I meet someone new is always some variation of "what are you?!?". Last I checked human Haha let's say no one ever gets it right. Too bad all these new kids are a generation removed coz bi-racial and multi-racial guys are hot. not referring to myself
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    Feb 16, 2012 5:24 PM GMT
    That used to be illegal .. good news that they've made progress there.. gives us some hope for gay marriage too
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    Feb 16, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    sixty_six saidBeing that I'm the product of an interracial couple including a very multi-racial mother, I am liking this. I really thought there were a lot of us before I moved to ny, but I've been shocked to find out I'm kinda rare. >


    Come to the Caribbean and Brazil.. we are the gold standard down here icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 16, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    Fascinating about Virginia, what with the Lovings and all. Perhaps Virginia really is for lovers after all!
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    Feb 16, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
    Let's hope so- race lines need to be blurred. I find nothing more appealing and more awesome then seeing long lasting interracial relationships out and about.

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    Feb 16, 2012 5:43 PM GMT
    the funny thing is, i don't see that many interracial couples around nyc. weird that. though as the bastion of .... well bastion of something... we would lead the trend in this as well.
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    Feb 16, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you saidthe funny thing is, i don't see that many interracial couples around nyc. weird that. thought as the bastion of .... well bastion of something... we would lead the trend in this as well.


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    Feb 16, 2012 5:48 PM GMT
    Its funny because I was just thinking the same thing the other day. I was walking around and noticed that there are a lot of inter-racial couples here in dc. i mean i have seen couple that I would have never though I would have seen before. I mean I have indian and asian. asian and black. i have white and indian. i am really surprised at this but i am also happy to see it as well. however, i do not see the same diversity with the gay community.
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    Feb 16, 2012 6:06 PM GMT
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    sixty_six saidBeing that I'm the product of an interracial couple including a very multi-racial mother, I am liking this. I really thought there were a lot of us before I moved to ny, but I've been shocked to find out I'm kinda rare. >


    Come to the Caribbean and Brazil.. we are the gold standard down here icon_smile.gif


    Very cool! I guess that's why I often get mistaken for latin american. I should just pretend I'm from Brazil. To many, just hearing that you're brazilian lights a fire in their crotches. I'd love to visit Brazil. Definitely on the top of my list.
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    Feb 16, 2012 6:13 PM GMT
    "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

    I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but...

    According to the Pew report, more than 25 percent of Hispanics and Asians who married in 2010 had a white spouse ... Of the 275,500 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43 percent were white-Hispanic couples, 14.4 percent were white-Asian, 11.9 percent were white-black, and the remainder were other combinations.

    Underlined for emphasis. Bold for proper translation. I know that many Filipina women in the US opt to exclusively date white men and/or non-Filipino men. Often times, there's a (conscious or unconscious) motivation to "move up" on the social ladder. It would be interesting to see how many of the white-X marriages were white men marrying women of an ethnic minority and white women marrying men of an ethnic minority. It would also be interesting to see how many of those new interracial marriages were between two ethnic minorities.


    _Broken down by gender, black men were more than twice as likely as black women to marry someone outside their race — 24 percent to 9 percent. The reverse held true for Asian men — 17 percent intermarried, compared to 36 percent among Asian women.

    In other words, Black women and Asian men are still behind in interracial dating/marriage playing field; which is consistent with some previous studies on interracial dating/marriage. My intuition tells me that it's not necessarily because Black women and Asian men are any less willing to date outside their race than other demographics, but rather people find Black women and Asian men less appealing.
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    Feb 16, 2012 6:14 PM GMT
    ^ to the above poster

    I also think that black women are less likely to date outside of their race. That is very noticeable and a very common thread among them.
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    Feb 16, 2012 6:36 PM GMT
    There are a lot of interracial gay couples as well...it is very common in California.

    My parents were also an interracial couple. My entire family is multi-racial as well. I think that we are just missing aborigines. ;)
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:28 PM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidIts funny because I was just thinking the same thing the other day. I was walking around and noticed that there are a lot of inter-racial couples here in dc. i mean i have seen couple that I would have never though I would have seen before. I mean I have indian and asian. asian and black. i have white and indian. i am really surprised at this but i am also happy to see it as well. however, i do not see the same diversity with the gay community.


    you noticed this, huh? no worries ... perhaps as soon as there is universal gay marriage acceptance... gay guys will too find themselves hitched to other ethnicities.

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    Feb 16, 2012 7:41 PM GMT
    MightyMouse87 said"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

    I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but...

    According to the Pew report, more than 25 percent of Hispanics and Asians who married in 2010 had a white spouse ... Of the 275,500 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43 percent were white-Hispanic couples, 14.4 percent were white-Asian, 11.9 percent were white-black, and the remainder were other combinations.

    Underlined for emphasis. Bold for proper translation. I know that many Filipina women in the US opt to exclusively date white men and/or non-Filipino men. Often times, there's a (conscious or unconscious) motivation to "move up" on the social ladder. It would be interesting to see how many of the white-X marriages were white men marrying women of an ethnic minority and white women marrying men of an ethnic minority. It would also be interesting to see how many of those new interracial marriages were between two ethnic minorities.


    _Broken down by gender, black men were more than twice as likely as black women to marry someone outside their race — 24 percent to 9 percent. The reverse held true for Asian men — 17 percent intermarried, compared to 36 percent among Asian women.

    In other words, Black women and Asian men are still behind in interracial dating/marriage playing field; which is consistent with some previous studies on interracial dating/marriage. My intuition tells me that it's not necessarily because Black women and Asian men are any less willing to date outside their race than other demographics, but rather people find Black women and Asian men less appealing.


    your intuition is quite strange to come up with something like this on its own. but anyhow this is what the media claims. i cannot speak for Asian men, but i do have some insight into black women - black women in the usa are the least likely of all ethnicities to choose to date outside their ethnic group. this is because of their intuition that tells them they must carry the black race and that no man can love them like a black man can.

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    Feb 16, 2012 7:56 PM GMT
    Who cares? Some guy in the article says "we have a long way to go", like there's some goal to strive for? And what is the "goal" might I add? Let people do whatever the hell they want, there's nothing more inherently good about a trend like this than if the reverse were true. As long as we aren't obstructing peoples' freedoms to be with whomever they choose.

    An increase in interracial marriage does not necessarily lead to acceptance of gays or an expedition of our rights. The MOST homophobic people I know are in interracial relationships or are biracial themselves with multiracial children. No joke. I'm sure it's coincidental, of course.
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    Feb 16, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
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    tuffguyndc saidIts funny because I was just thinking the same thing the other day. I was walking around and noticed that there are a lot of inter-racial couples here in dc. i mean i have seen couple that I would have never though I would have seen before. I mean I have indian and asian. asian and black. i have white and indian. i am really surprised at this but i am also happy to see it as well. however, i do not see the same diversity with the gay community.


    you noticed this, huh? no worries ... perhaps as soon as there is universal gay marriage acceptance... gay guys will too find themselves hitched to other ethnicities.

    ha ha ha we have gay marriage here in dc. i think they have in maryland as well. the only place it is isn't accepted is in va. go figure. ha ha
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    Feb 16, 2012 8:01 PM GMT
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    sixty_six saidBeing that I'm the product of an interracial couple including a very multi-racial mother, I am liking this. I really thought there were a lot of us before I moved to ny, but I've been shocked to find out I'm kinda rare. >


    Come to the Caribbean and Brazil.. we are the gold standard down here icon_smile.gif


    Really? From every indication I've seen this is the Brazilian gold standard:

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    Ever heard of "made in Brazil" magazine?
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    Feb 16, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
    running11 said^ to the above poster

    I also think that black women are less likely to date outside of their race. That is very noticeable and a very common thread among them.
    that is very true. i think it has to do with how they are brought up. its the same way in the asian culture as well. i feel it has to with them being afraid of being disowned by there families. i have heard from many black women that they will not do it because they feel like they turned there backs on there race
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    Feb 16, 2012 8:12 PM GMT
    MightyMouse87 said"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

    I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but...

    According to the Pew report, more than 25 percent of Hispanics and Asians who married in 2010 had a white spouse ... Of the 275,500 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43 percent were white-Hispanic couples, 14.4 percent were white-Asian, 11.9 percent were white-black, and the remainder were other combinations.

    Underlined for emphasis. Bold for proper translation. I know that many Filipina women in the US opt to exclusively date white men and/or non-Filipino men. Often times, there's a (conscious or unconscious) motivation to "move up" on the social ladder. It would be interesting to see how many of the white-X marriages were white men marrying women of an ethnic minority and white women marrying men of an ethnic minority. It would also be interesting to see how many of those new interracial marriages were between two ethnic minorities.


    _Broken down by gender, black men were more than twice as likely as black women to marry someone outside their race — 24 percent to 9 percent. The reverse held true for Asian men — 17 percent intermarried, compared to 36 percent among Asian women.

    In other words, Black women and Asian men are still behind in interracial dating/marriage playing field; which is consistent with some previous studies on interracial dating/marriage. My intuition tells me that it's not necessarily because Black women and Asian men are any less willing to date outside their race than other demographics, but rather people find Black women and Asian men less appealing.


    well said. interestingly, my father is the product of a Korean man and Caribbean Black female.
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    Feb 16, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    Isn't everyone technically interacial? That may sound like an ignorant question I suppose. icon_rolleyes.gif

    But the question was focused on "gay relationship aspect" which no one seems to be addressing. What seems to be the trend in my opinion is that Whites generally are attracted to other white men, asians attracted to whites, blacks attracted to blacks and whites, latin/hispanic attracted to white and latins. I dunno...what does it matter really? You are attracted to who your attracted to...nothings gonna change that. We all learned this lesson when we found out we were gay. It's really all a matter of preference and I think trying to quantify attraction is pointless and doesn't prove anything.

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    Feb 16, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
    TheBizMan saidWhat seems to be the trend in my opinion is that Whites generally are attracted to other white men, asians attracted to whites, blacks attracted to blacks and whites, latin/hispanic attracted to white and latins.


    I also notice the same racial attraction trend. Though let's not confuse "attraction" with "relationship", as who people will fuck can be different from who they will date.

    TheBizMan saidYou are attracted to who your attracted to...nothings gonna change that. We all learned this lesson when we found out we were gay.


    I disagree. As far as attraction goes, I think the environment in which we reside can influence what we find attractive. Since our environment can change, it stands to reason that things we deem attractive can change along with our environment. When the Spanish colonized what is now the Philippines, the standard of beauty in the country shifted to a more European/mestizo look. The fact that, individually, we cannot consciously change what we are attracted to does not mean that what we find attractive is not malleable.

    TheBizMan said
    ...I think trying to quantify attraction is pointless and doesn't prove anything.


    I disagree on principle. I never question the validity of someone's choice to ponder the world around them. Without people to do so, the entire field of science (and all the technology borne of it) would not exist. Imagine someone telling Isaac Newton, "Who the fuck cares how fast an apple falls from a tree?"
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    Feb 16, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
    i think people should stick to their own goddamn race. obviously.
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    Feb 16, 2012 10:54 PM GMT
    I blame the Jews.