Hydroxycut...seems like misleading advertising...

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    Jul 01, 2008 9:23 PM GMT
    Out here in the Bay Area, there have been a deluge of Hydroxycut ads on some of the cable networks.

    Here's what bothers me about these ads. I think they are dishonest, and they are designed to use an "argument by authority" to entice viewers who are overweight to try the product.

    One ad shows a before and after picture of a medical doctor, the after picture very hunky....he's all chiseled up in the after picture.

    Then he's the one that comes on, dressed in a white doctor's smock, authoritatively saying "....the ingredient in HydroxyCut has been shown to medically decrease weight...." or something like that.

    I know there has been another thread on this stuff. But the active ingredients in Hydroxycut were ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin. I think the latest version of Hydroxycut has eliminated the ephedrine.

    I think you all know tht ephedrine and caffeine are mere stimulants....they're increasing the basal metabolism. I can't imagine a more unhealthful way to lose weight....well, maybe there are a few more unhealthy ways.

    This is a diet pill of the 1970s sort. You might as well drink six cups of coffee, or swallow a bunch of NoDoz tablets, and get the same unhealthful results for a lot cheaper.

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    Jul 02, 2008 2:27 AM GMT
    I hope it's true that they've taken the ephedrine out of that. Ephedrine can cause heart and blood pressure problems. But, you're right...it's very expensive.


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    Jul 26, 2008 6:02 PM GMT
    I think hydroxycut works good.. i don't take it 3 times a day though like they say on the directions... i just mainly do it before i workout... but i think it works good.. in moderation.. everything in moderation... the problem is fat people think all they have to do is take this magic pill and they will wake up skinny like nicole richie or the olson girls... they dont understand that u have to weave in diet and workouts and its a combined effort...
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    Jul 26, 2008 6:34 PM GMT
    why'd they ever take ephedra off the market? that shit actually worked. it was all because a small handful of high school football players died doing during hell-week in 110 degree weather with little hydration and a bit of ephedra in their system. utter bull shit. this new formula hydroxycut is pushing is simply using their brand to lead us to believe the results will be the same
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    Jul 26, 2008 6:46 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidwhy'd they ever take ephedra off the market? that shit actually worked. it was all because a small handful of high school football players died doing during hell-week in 110 degree weather with little hydration and a bit of ephedra in their system. utter bull shit. this new formula hydroxycut is pushing is simply using their brand to lead us to believe the results will be the same


    I couldn't agree more. Aspirin kills thousands every year when people take too much. And millions die from tabacco but we haven't gone and banned that, have we?

    Ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin is a highly effective combo for speeding up the metabolism. I used to take it first thing in the morning before doing cardio. You would burn much more fat throughout the day. Taken in the recommended dose, by a healthy person with any heart problem, it is fine. It is the jackasses that overdo it or abuse it that always ruin it for the rest of us!

    Hydroxycut now is all watered-down. Not nearly as good... BUT... if you search under "Ephedera" on the internet, you can still order the E,C,A combo from Europe.
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    Jul 26, 2008 6:53 PM GMT
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    Hunter9 saidwhy'd they ever take ephedra off the market? that shit actually worked. it was all because a small handful of high school football players died doing during hell-week in 110 degree weather with little hydration and a bit of ephedra in their system. utter bull shit. this new formula hydroxycut is pushing is simply using their brand to lead us to believe the results will be the same


    I couldn't agree more. Aspirin kills thousands every year when people take too much. And millions die from tabacco but we haven't gone and banned that, have we?

    Ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin is a highly effective combo for speeding up the metabolism. I used to take it first thing in the morning before doing cardio. You would burn much more fat throughout the day. Taken in the recommended dose, by a healthy person with any heart problem, it is fine. It is the jackasses that overdo it or abuse it that always ruin it for the rest of us!

    Hydroxycut now is all watered-down. Not nearly as good... BUT... if you search under "Ephedera" on the internet, you can still order the E,C,A combo from Europe.


    The FDA reversed its ban on ephedra. If I remember correctly, the court ruled that it overstepped its jurisdiction by selectively banning this one product. Here's an article I found:
    http://altmedicine.about.com/od/consumerreviewsalerts/a/ephedra_ban.htm

    Otherwise, Dr. Jon Marshall has long been the Hydroxycut poster child. He is very hot, and as we all know, sex sells. MuscleTec's products are full of hype but deliver marginal results. The only MuscleTec product that has ever worked for me is Leukic, but after 1-2 cycles, I plateaued and I seem to have quickly built up a resistance to it. Anyway, you can buy Leucine for much less than these overpriced vanity pills (of which I'm sure most of the MSRP pays for MuscleTec's mass marketing).
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    Jul 26, 2008 7:11 PM GMT
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    I couldn't agree more. Aspirin kills thousands every year when people take too much. And millions die from tabacco but we haven't gone and banned that, have we? The FDA reversed its ban on ephedra. If I remember correctly, the court ruled that it overstepped its jurisdiction by selectively banning this one product. Here's an article I found:


    I disagree with this to this extent. Taking any drug can make you ill or kill you, if you overdose. Hell, drinking too much water can make you ill or kill you.

    I don' t know if overdoses of aspirin kill thousands each year or not. But the chief risk with aspirin is its blood thinning properties. However, the risk with ephedra is that it is a stimulant...and a powerful one.

    Here's what the FDA says on its website:

    "...One review sponsored by the National Institutes of Health concluded that ephedra is associated with higher risks of mild-to-moderate heart palpitations, psychiatric and upper gastrointestinal effects, and symptoms of hyperactivity of the autonomic nervous system, such as tremor and insomnia, especially when taken with caffeine and other stimulants. Another review showed that, for people taking more than 32 milligrams daily, the rate of hemorrhagic (bleeding) strokes among ephedra users was significantly higher than that recorded for non-users. Some ephedra-containing dietary supplement labels recommend daily doses of up to 100 milligrams.

    Additionally, a study of calls to poison control centers revealed a disproportionate rate of reactions to ephedra relative to other herbal products. In short, the evidence shows that ephedra is associated with an increased risk of alarming side effects, possibly even deaths...."



    An important component of the above is the DISPROPORTIONATE role of ephedra in causing health problems, not that it is just another drug that can cause health risks if abused. Another issue with Hydroxycut is embedded in the first paragraph above....warning about synergistic effects when ephedra is taken in combination with caffeine.

    But my issue is not with the "informed" use of Hydroxycut, but the fact that ads do NOT mention what the active ingredients are. In essence, they are craftily luring uninformed dieters who want to look like Jon Marshall to take a product which the National Instutes of Health (and the FDA) has serious concerns about.

    That's dishonest.

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    Jul 26, 2008 7:50 PM GMT
    Hunter9 saidwhy'd they ever take ephedra off the market? that shit actually worked. it was all because a small handful of high school football players died doing during hell-week in 110 degree weather with little hydration and a bit of ephedra in their system. utter bull shit. this new formula hydroxycut is pushing is simply using their brand to lead us to believe the results will be the same


    They didn't take ephedra it's still in hydroxycut and other products it's a naturally occurring stimulant in some plants.

    The took ephedrine (synthetic ephedra analog) off the market, not because it was harming anyone but because it is took easily converted into methampetamines...

    Asprin is much worse, if it were discovered today it wouldn't receive FDA approval the LD50 dose is too close to the therapeutic dose and there is too many side effects