zackmorrisfanclub saidSheriff Babeu will now experience "first hand" the same social conservative prejudice that other gay Arizonans face everyday ... as well as well the "fallout" from anti-Latino social conservatives for dating a non-US Latino man.Then he'll get all jaded and grumpy, and create a sock account here and call himself sou...
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wvufan87 saidcoolarmydude saidNow let's see Jan Brewer point her finger in Babeu's face. LOL!
Yeah, this a good quip.
But seriously, Paul Babeu is so friggin handsome. I could get real friendly with him, and real fast.
coolarmydude said
You might want to read this, where the story first broke:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012-02-16/news/paul-babeu-s-mexican-ex-lover-says-sheriff-s-attorney-threatened-him-with-deportation/2/
bwinter00 said
Maybe I shouldn't be so quick to jump to Babeu's defense. I shouldn't make rash judgements before the dust settles (which is true for people both sides). I watched his press conference and he seemed genuine, and he had many people speak to his upstanding character. However, at this point, I don't trust anything that comes out of any politician's mouth. I don't want to defend him and then turn around and find out that he was lying the whole time.
So far this situation is very partisan battle with both sides giving their own story. I'm inclined to believe the sheriff's story. I think the other side is just trying to bring him down in an unfair way. This seems to simply be a relationship gone bitter.
If Babeu did in fact threaten deportation or make other ruinous threats against Jose, that's unacceptable, and he should be removed from his position.
You cite the fact that he has retained legal counsel as evidence of his guilt. So by this logic, no innocent person should ever have to hire a lawyer? If you were in his shoes, would you not want legal counsel on your side? These are serious allegations against him, and he is indeed taking them seriously.
A final note: I admire him for not playing the identity politics game. So many minorities (whether sexual orientation, race, gender, religion, etc.) fall hook, line, and sinker for the Democrats' divide-and-conquer identity politics warfare. Such warfare ultimately weakens our union and destroys our common identity. It's an easy trap to fall into (I was ensnared for years), but it's encouraging to see more and more people emerging from it. Being gay does not mean you have to be liberal, and being a gay conservative doesn't make you a kapo or gay Uncle Tom. One can disagree with certain policies or wings of a political party without being a hypocrite or self-loathing.
bwinter00 saidOh, and I question the credibility of the Phoenix New Times. So many of those alternative weeklies (and other publications) are sensationalist rags that will exaggerate anything for publicity or increased readership. The fact that the publication reported it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.
coolarmydude saidbwinter00 saidOh, and I question the credibility of the Phoenix New Times. So many of those alternative weeklies (and other publications) are sensationalist rags that will exaggerate anything for publicity or increased readership. The fact that the publication reported it doesn't mean it's necessarily true.
....or necessarily false.
Remember, it was the NATIONAL ENQUIRER that first broke the news about John Edwards' affair.
JakeBenson saidAnother reason to legalize Mexicans already living in America: they're everybody's boyfriends nowadays.
mocktwinkie saidJakeBenson saidAnother reason to legalize Mexicans already living in America: they're everybody's boyfriends nowadays.
bwinter00 saidcoolarmydude said
You might want to read this, where the story first broke:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012-02-16/news/paul-babeu-s-mexican-ex-lover-says-sheriff-s-attorney-threatened-him-with-deportation/2/
Maybe I shouldn't be so quick to jump to Babeu's defense. I shouldn't make rash judgements before the dust settles (which is true for people both sides). I watched his press conference and he seemed genuine, and he had many people speak to his upstanding character. However, at this point, I don't trust anything that comes out of any politician's mouth. I don't want to defend him and then turn around and find out that he was lying the whole time.
So far this situation is very partisan battle with both sides giving their own story. I'm inclined to believe the sheriff's story. I think the other side is just trying to bring him down in an unfair way. This seems to simply be a relationship gone bitter.
If Babeu did in fact threaten deportation or make other ruinous threats against Jose, that's unacceptable, and he should be removed from his position.
You cite the fact that he has retained legal counsel as evidence of his guilt. So by this logic, no innocent person should ever have to hire a lawyer? If you were in his shoes, would you not want legal counsel on your side? These are serious allegations against him, and he is indeed taking them seriously.
A final note: I admire him for not playing the identity politics game. So many minorities (whether sexual orientation, race, gender, religion, etc.) fall hook, line, and sinker for the Democrats' divide-and-conquer identity politics warfare. Such warfare ultimately weakens our union and destroys our common identity. It's an easy trap to fall into (I was ensnared for years), but it's encouraging to see more and more people emerging from it. Being gay does not mean you have to be liberal, and being a gay conservative doesn't make you a kapo or gay Uncle Tom. One can disagree with certain policies or wings of a political party without being a hypocrite or self-loathing.
RickRick91 saidwvufan87 saidcoolarmydude saidNow let's see Jan Brewer point her finger in Babeu's face. LOL!
Yeah, this a good quip.
But seriously, Paul Babeu is so friggin handsome. I could get real friendly with him, and real fast.
Nah.
He needs to lose the flubby spare tire before he can be called handsome.
He's average looking.
wvufan87 saidRickRick91 saidwvufan87 saidcoolarmydude saidNow let's see Jan Brewer point her finger in Babeu's face. LOL!
Yeah, this a good quip.
But seriously, Paul Babeu is so friggin handsome. I could get real friendly with him, and real fast.
Nah.
He needs to lose the flubby spare tire before he can be called handsome.
He's average looking.
I wish I was that average looking!
YVRguy saidWhere in the article did it say that the Sheriff sent naked pics???? For someone who suggested I read the article maybe RickRick91 should read it again.
skyguyWI saidYVRguy saidWhere in the article did it say that the Sheriff sent naked pics???? For someone who suggested I read the article maybe RickRick91 should read it again.
Here's the link to the article in question:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012-02-16/news/paul-babeu-s-mexican-ex-lover-says-sheriff-s-attorney-threatened-him-with-deportation/
Page 2 says, "During the previous year, Jose says, Babeu e-mailed explicit photographs of himself to an anonymous man he met on the gay adam4adam.com website." It goes on to say, "He shared with New Times photographs that he claims Babeu e-mailed to the anonymous love interest. In the photographs, the sheriff revealed himself shirtless, in his underwear, and naked from the waist down."
AlphaTrigger said#Baboner'sA4Apics
Looks like the Baboner done closed the barn doors after the horse bolted.
sdgman saidskyguyWI saidYVRguy saidWhere in the article did it say that the Sheriff sent naked pics???? For someone who suggested I read the article maybe RickRick91 should read it again.
Here's the link to the article in question:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2012-02-16/news/paul-babeu-s-mexican-ex-lover-says-sheriff-s-attorney-threatened-him-with-deportation/
Page 2 says, "During the previous year, Jose says, Babeu e-mailed explicit photographs of himself to an anonymous man he met on the gay adam4adam.com website." It goes on to say, "He shared with New Times photographs that he claims Babeu e-mailed to the anonymous love interest. In the photographs, the sheriff revealed himself shirtless, in his underwear, and naked from the waist down."
Still.. the ex claims.. no proof (although it wouldn't surprise me)
sdgman saidHe didn't take them down.. they are just "private" now.. were they before? Probably.
That said... Rickrick is hotter.. I'm just sayin'
RickRick91 saidThe 43 year old "studBOI" took down his pics?
To little too late!
)
RickRick91 saidsdgman saidHe didn't take them down.. they are just "private" now.. were they before? Probably.
That said... Rickrick is hotter.. I'm just sayin'
Thx.
And you look better than Baboner does yourself.
AlphaTrigger saidRickRick91 saidThe 43 year old "studBOI" took down his pics?
To little too late!
His profile says he is 37.
I guess lying about one's age on A4A is nothing new (and I thought he looked a tad older than me anyway
CuriousJockAZ saidThis whole thing is kind of over- blown and ridiculous...much of It unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo
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