Who will have more influence in turning republican votes in Maryland, this guy or the Act Up types?

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    Feb 19, 2012 4:58 AM GMT

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/17/dick-cheney-gay-marriage-maryland_n_1284727.html
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    Feb 19, 2012 5:33 AM GMT
    Queer Nation doesn't exist anymore. ACT UP doesn't work on marriage equality and, thankfully, the great Democratic governor of Maryland is all over the issue.
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    Feb 19, 2012 5:38 AM GMT
    And if you need or would like republican votes (and heart and minds), who would be better to help?
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    Feb 19, 2012 5:45 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidQueer Nation doesn't exist anymore. ACT UP doesn't work on marriage equality and, thankfully, the great Democratic governor of Maryland is all over the issue.


    I fixed the topic. I guess that proves how out of touch I am.
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    Feb 19, 2012 6:03 AM GMT
    Why would anyone on the left or the right pay any attention to anything Dick Cheney says?

    This is the guy who famously said that "deficits don't matter" back in 2001 when the Bush tax cuts were rammed through by the Repubs in the Congress.

    Ten years later the Bush tax cuts have added more than 2.5 TRILLION to the National Debt.
    And nobody believes the bullshit he and his fellow Repubs were trying to sell back then.
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    Feb 19, 2012 6:11 AM GMT
    RickRick91 saidWhy would anyone on the left or the right pay any attention to anything Dick Cheney says?

    This is the guy who famously said that "deficits don't matter" back in 2001 when the Bush tax cuts were rammed through by the Repubs in the Congress.

    Ten years later the Bush tax cuts have added more than 2.5 TRILLION to the National Debt.
    And nobody believes the bullshit he and his fellow Repubs were trying to sell back then.


    So this doesn't matter given his audience? He's still a 'rock star' to the conservative wing of the republican party and I'm one of those folks.

    Is this a net plus or net negative to your cause?



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    Feb 19, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidDick Cheney is a terrible person, but I welcome the help from any quarter it comes from.


    Aside from Barry Goldwater, Dick Cheney is my favorite Republican.
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    Feb 19, 2012 7:55 AM GMT
    JPtheBITCH said
    freedomisntfree said
    JPtheBITCH saidDick Cheney is a terrible person, but I welcome the help from any quarter it comes from.


    Aside from Barry Goldwater, Dick Cheney is my favorite Republican.

    I believe you might have mentioned that 2 of 3 or perhaps 400 times.


    At least 400 maybe even 500.
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    Feb 19, 2012 6:12 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree,

    The article mentions that the Baltimore rep had already changed his mind after hearing testimonies from same-sex couples. Darth Cheney's call came afterwards. When the same-sex marriage bill came up last year, I know of one GOP state rep who said he would put his religious ideas aside and vote in favor of the bill.

    It's nice that Cheney is supportive. That's the only sensible thing that man has ever done.
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    Feb 19, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    creature saidfreedomisntfree,

    The article mentions that the Baltimore rep had already changed his mind after hearing testimonies from same-sex couples. Darth Cheney's call came afterwards. When the same-sex marriage bill came up last year, I know of one GOP state rep who said he would put his religious ideas aside and vote in favor of the bill.

    It's nice that Cheney is supportive. That's the only sensible thing that man has ever done.


    "Darth Cheney's" not necessary and not productive

    Great guy though.

    Cheney caused a bunch of very open honest self examination about it at CPAC 2010. He’s one of us … just about as right wing as you can get. It left a number of folks unsure why they opposed it and that’s a great big start. I was right in the middle of it.

    The haters from the left only serve to reinforce the right’s opposition. There are more productive tactics than are currently employed.
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    Feb 19, 2012 7:28 PM GMT
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    creature saidfreedomisntfree,

    The article mentions that the Baltimore rep had already changed his mind after hearing testimonies from same-sex couples. Darth Cheney's call came afterwards. When the same-sex marriage bill came up last year, I know of one GOP state rep who said he would put his religious ideas aside and vote in favor of the bill.

    It's nice that Cheney is supportive. That's the only sensible thing that man has ever done.


    "Darth Cheney's" not necessary and not productive

    Great guy though.

    Cheney caused a bunch of very open honest self examination about it at CPAC 2010. He’s one of us … just about as right wing as you can get. It left a number of folks unsure why they opposed it and that’s a great big start. I was right in the middle of it.

    The haters from the left only serve to reinforce the right’s opposition. There are more productive tactics than are currently employed.


    Oh come on, even he dressed up in a Darth Vader costume, and his wife joined in on the joke. You have to lighten up.

    Anyways, he's being a bit hypocrtical for believing that same-sex marriage should be left up to the states, yet he sees no problem of an outsider putting pressure on a state rep to see things his way (although it was too late by then).
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:09 PM GMT
    creature said
    freedomisntfree said
    creature saidfreedomisntfree,

    The article mentions that the Baltimore rep had already changed his mind after hearing testimonies from same-sex couples. Darth Cheney's call came afterwards. When the same-sex marriage bill came up last year, I know of one GOP state rep who said he would put his religious ideas aside and vote in favor of the bill.

    It's nice that Cheney is supportive. That's the only sensible thing that man has ever done.


    "Darth Cheney's" not necessary and not productive

    Great guy though.

    Cheney caused a bunch of very open honest self examination about it at CPAC 2010. He’s one of us … just about as right wing as you can get. It left a number of folks unsure why they opposed it and that’s a great big start. I was right in the middle of it.

    The haters from the left only serve to reinforce the right’s opposition. There are more productive tactics than are currently employed.


    Oh come on, even he dressed up in a Darth Vader costume, and his wife joined in on the joke. You have to lighten up.

    Anyways, he's being a bit hypocrtical for believing that same-sex marriage should be left up to the states, yet he sees no problem of an outsider putting pressure on a state rep to see things his way (although it was too late by then).


    Outsider? He's a home owner in Maryland.
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
    I know he owns a home in Maryland, but doesn't mean he resides here.
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
    creature saidI know he owns a home in Maryland, but doesn't mean he resides here.


    1/2 + time. and 1/2 - his ranch in Wyoming.

    Edit:

    In fact it's much more east coast now because his heart doctors are at Inova and his daughters are back there.
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:18 PM GMT
    What about Mclean, Virginia?
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:26 PM GMT
    creature saidWhat about Mclean, Virginia?


    Now I'm CORNfused as that is where he moved right after the vice presidency. Remember, he hurt his back moving and was in a wheelchair at Obama’s inauguration.
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:27 PM GMT
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/dick-cheney-lobbied-maryland-gay-marriage-bill-report-article-1.1025192?localLinksEnabled=false
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:30 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    JPtheBITCH saidDick Cheney is a terrible person, but I welcome the help from any quarter it comes from.


    Aside from Barry Goldwater, Dick Cheney is my favorite Republican.


    Always liked and admired Dick Cheney. We were lucky to have him as a V.P. during the time we did.
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:36 PM GMT
    It's great if Cheney is lobbying for marriage equality, but none of these stories says he actually did anything. The original story says someone offered to have Cheney call someone else, but no call was ever made.
    Was Cheney even aware that lobbyists were using his name? According to the story his actual participation was zero.
    How this becomes "a story" is an example of how sloppy journalists are.
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    Feb 19, 2012 8:42 PM GMT
    KissTheSky saidIt's great if Cheney is lobbying for marriage equality, but none of these stories says he actually did anything. The original story says someone offered to have Cheney call someone else, but no call was ever made.
    Was Cheney even aware that lobbyists were using his name? According to the story his actual participation was zero.
    How this becomes "a story" is an example of how sloppy journalists are.


    Not like I haven't posted this about a 1,000 times. This is NOT nothing.



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    Feb 19, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
    Who will have more influence in turning republican votes in Maryland, this guy or the Act Up types?



    Oh, Santorum definitely.