Test tube hamburgers to be served this year

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    Feb 21, 2012 5:29 PM GMT
    This will ultimately negate some of the concerns of er, militant vegans.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9091628/Test-tube-hamburgers-to-be-served-this-year.html

    The world's first test tube hamburger will be served up this October after scientists perfected the art of growing beef in the lab.

    The process of culturing the artificial meat in the lab is so laborious that the finished product, expected to arrive in eight months' time, will cost about £220,000 (EUR250,000).

    But researchers expect that after producing their first patty they will be able to scale up the process to create affordable artificial meat products.

    Mass-producing beef, pork, chicken and lamb in the lab could satisfy the growing global demand for meat - forecast to double within the next 40 years - and dramatically reduce the harm that farming does to the environment.
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    Feb 21, 2012 8:56 PM GMT
    My god seriously? 72% wouldn't eat this? I mean let's say the taste is identical, and there are no health problems with it, why wouldn't you?

    I'm by no standars a greenpeace-nut, but so far my reason for eating meat is that it's so, so delicious. Also I brought up in a home where if there wasn't any meat on the table, it wasn't really a meal.

    But now if I don't have to get an animal killed to eat my delicious meat, why should I?
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:06 PM GMT
    I could envision a lot of vegans/vegetarians having some sort of pride issue accepting a completely humane meat source. I'll eat meat whether it comes from a tube or a freshly slaughtered animal. Mmmmm, meat.
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:10 PM GMT
    Trollileo said
    Ariodante saidI could envision a lot of vegans/vegetarians having some sort of pride issue accepting a completely humane meat source. I'll eat meat whether it comes from a tube or a freshly slaughtered animal. Mmmmm, meat.
    You'd probably prefer the tube.


    Tube steak...yum.... icon_wink.gif
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
    I prefer my meat wild and lean! Give some venison!
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    As one who is going increasingly vegetarian, I'd be skeptical about test tube food. A lot of things seemingly are billed as safe up front, only to be discovered later to be harmful in some way.

    Others are free to make their own choices, and for sure I hate to see anyone starve -- especially if a seemingly safe alternative is out there that could meet needs.
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:36 PM GMT
    Geez I got to get my mind out of the gutter. I thought you ment hamburgers in the SHAPE of a test tube. I must be craving something icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:37 PM GMT
    i dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:41 PM GMT


    I don't have problems with vegans...I just hate when, like some religious people, they try to shove them down your throats or act "holier than thou"...*cough* my sister*cough*

    And isn't there meat where the animal is horribly treated, but it's expensive? I'd like to consume that when I get older and wealthier.
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:43 PM GMT
    FootballHawk saidi dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.
    I can only speak for myself in saying that the rationale for a plant based diet for me is pretty simple: the cow can eat the plant and then I can eat the cow, or I can just eat the plant. By choosing the plant, I believe that I can help (in a very small way) to make more food available to others.
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:45 PM GMT
    FootballHawk saidi dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.


    Well some folks go the vegetarian/vegan route as a form of protesting the cruelty of factory farming. Others view the eating of meat on a grand scale as ecologically unsustainable. For me, if its dead and cooked, I'll eat it. And somethings are pretty good tartar.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:45 PM GMT

    What.. no Soylent Green quip yet?
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:47 PM GMT
    Much ado about nothing. It's unlikely that this process will be cheaper than raising livestock any time soon.
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    Feb 21, 2012 11:59 PM GMT
    Its another 3 wheel car. Same story pops up every few years to attract investor money. It another meat production method could be any more efficient 3 billion years of evolution would have found it.
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    Feb 22, 2012 12:08 AM GMT
    JinRDU said

    Others are free to make their own choices, and for sure I hate to see anyone starve -- especially if a seemingly safe alternative is out there that could meet needs.


    I am not sure whether people have made this argument but lab meat will not reduce global famine.

    The same argument was used for GM foods...
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    Feb 22, 2012 12:21 AM GMT
    I thought they were talking about this last year + said it would NOT be eaten?

    I dunno didn't bother reading this particular article but i read one just yesterday from BBC - they'll also be mixing in blood + other bits to the finished "processed meat" before they cook it up + call it a burger.

    Maybe they think we can find sustainable ways of draining cows of their blood without having to kill them? hell if i know
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    Feb 22, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    First test tube babies...now test tube burgers....what's next -- test tube boyfriends? icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 22, 2012 12:38 AM GMT
    Ariodante saidI could envision a lot of vegans/vegetarians having some sort of pride issue accepting a completely humane meat source. I'll eat meat whether it comes from a tube or a freshly slaughtered animal. Mmmmm, meat.


    Yes...this...TASTY TASTY MURDER!!! lol
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    Feb 22, 2012 12:39 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidFirst test tube babies...now test tube burgers....what's next -- test tube boyfriends? icon_lol.gif
    Now THAT I could get excited about. icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 22, 2012 4:44 AM GMT
    JinRDU said
    FootballHawk saidi dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.
    I can only speak for myself in saying that the rationale for a plant based diet for me is pretty simple: the cow can eat the plant and then I can eat the cow, or I can just eat the plant. By choosing the plant, I believe that I can help (in a very small way) to make more food available to others.



    yes but the cow also gets protein by having bacteria that digest cellulose in one of it's stomach and then inturn digests that mass of bacteria for protein in another stomach, you on the other hand cannot digest cellulose and pass it as inert 'fibre'. you are not a cow.
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    Feb 22, 2012 4:49 AM GMT
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    FootballHawk saidi dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.


    Well some folks go the vegetarian/vegan route as a form of protesting the cruelty of factory farming. Others view the eating of meat on a grand scale as ecologically unsustainable. For me, if its dead and cooked, I'll eat it. And somethings are pretty good tartar.icon_biggrin.gif



    most veggie people aren't exactly protesting; they mostly think killing animals for food is gross. there's no logic in something like that. just look any national geographic video and you'll find angry vegetarians protesting against an animal feeding live as nature had intended or even bashing people who keep carnivorous animals and feeding it live food (they usually will not accept dead food) and they will call these creatures gross and sick. I just feel vegetarians are so out of touch with nature and reality like most religious people.
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    Feb 22, 2012 5:06 AM GMT
    FootballHawk said
    TriAthInCA said
    FootballHawk saidi dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.


    Well some folks go the vegetarian/vegan route as a form of protesting the cruelty of factory farming. Others view the eating of meat on a grand scale as ecologically unsustainable. For me, if its dead and cooked, I'll eat it. And somethings are pretty good tartar.icon_biggrin.gif



    most veggie people aren't exactly protesting; they mostly think killing animals for food is gross. there's no logic in something like that. just look any national geographic video and you'll find angry vegetarians protesting against an animal feeding live as nature had intended or even bashing people who keep carnivorous animals and feeding it live food (they usually will not accept dead food) and they will call these creatures gross and sick. I just feel vegetarians are so out of touch with nature and reality like most religious people.


    Any vegetarian's/vegan I know has never said they think a creature is gross and sick for being carnivourous. Seems to me the problem with the people you know is that they're stupid, not that they're vegetarian. You should check into that.
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    Feb 22, 2012 7:49 AM GMT
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    JinRDU said
    FootballHawk saidi dont get religion nor do i get vegetarians, human emotions cannot be applied to nature or science. it's just how things work you cant exactly call a snake that eats a live mouse unethical, it's how nature is designed and we as human are no exception or separate from the animal kingdom.
    I can only speak for myself in saying that the rationale for a plant based diet for me is pretty simple: the cow can eat the plant and then I can eat the cow, or I can just eat the plant. By choosing the plant, I believe that I can help (in a very small way) to make more food available to others.



    yes but the cow also gets protein by having bacteria that digest cellulose in one of it's stomach and then inturn digests that mass of bacteria for protein in another stomach, you on the other hand cannot digest cellulose and pass it as inert 'fibre'. you are not a cow.
    Yes, and I get my protein by eating a well-balanced diet. And the cow gets to keep both stomachs. Everybody wins!
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    Feb 22, 2012 8:01 AM GMT
    JinRDU said Yes, and I get my protein by eating a well-balanced diet. And the cow gets to keep both stomachs. Everybody wins!


    I think the cow totally wins by being turned into a delicious burger for me. Mmmm...cooow
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    Feb 22, 2012 8:20 AM GMT
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    JinRDU said Yes, and I get my protein by eating a well-balanced diet. And the cow gets to keep both stomachs. Everybody wins!


    I think the cow totally wins by being turned into a delicious burger for me. Mmmm...cooow
    Haha!