Gays&Liberals, Jews&Christians

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    Feb 22, 2012 5:36 PM GMT
    First, let me just say that I'm agnostic, I'm not affiliated with any religion. Also, I don't have anything against Jewish people or the Jewish Religion.

    But, there's just something strange about the relationship liberals have with Jewish people and how it's so different from the relationship they have with Christians. Whenever i see any reference to Christianity, people on here immediately attack it and state how Christianity is dumb and stuff. But when we have posts like "Who's Jewish on RealJock?" no one attacks that...

    Why is a religion as conservative (actually more conservative) than Christianity more accepted on a website like RealJock? No one trash talks Judaism as a religion and being anti-gay.
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    Feb 22, 2012 6:08 PM GMT

    Christianity is a religion.

    Being Jewish can be religious, or cultural, or refer to your nationality, or be all three or a combination of two.
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    Feb 22, 2012 6:34 PM GMT
    bodyboarder725 saidBut when we have posts like "Who's Jewish on RealJock?" no one attacks that...

    Why is a religion as conservative (actually more conservative) than Christianity more accepted on a website like RealJock? No one trash talks Judaism as a religion and being anti-gay.


    Right, there were no gentiles slinging any shit in there at all. Get real, jock.

    Meanwhile, yes, for the most part Judaism, while having its share, does tend to have less fundamentalists than some other religions, not just as a cultural-social aspect, but built into the religion by its long and strong tradition of interpretation of Jewish law which consists not just of Torah, or the five books of Moses, aka the old Testament, but also of the Talmud or oral law and especially the Mishnah which essentially gives rise to a tradition of debating and commentary upon the law.

    There is even a little known aspect to Judaism touched upon in Kabbalah whereby Messiah alters Torah though, for any hopeful so-called messianic Jew, that is not a reference to any known New Testament.

    Point being, that it is the tradition of debating, interpretting and commenting upon the law which allows for a more liberal point of view within the religion, as that makes it less stuck in any status quo.
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    Feb 22, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Christianity is a religion.

    Being Jewish can be religious, or cultural, or refer to your nationality, or be all three or a combination of two.


    I'm sure the Orthodox Jews may well disagree with you.
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    Feb 23, 2012 12:09 AM GMT
    bodyboarder725 saidWhy is a religion as conservative (actually more conservative) than Christianity more accepted on a website like RealJock? No one trash talks Judaism as a religion and being anti-gay.

    What makes you think that Judaism - as practiced today - is "more conservative" than Christianity?

    Have you considered that given that 75% of Jews (in the US) are liberals (or at least vote Democratic), that my have an influence?

    Overseas, the Jewish State (Israel) is also very liberal and, overall, pro-gay.

    See also:

    Judaism is the religion of the Jewish people.
    (Judaism is a religion, Jews are an ethnic group)

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/494893

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    Feb 23, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    It's because we're afraid of teh Juuuuuzzz!

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