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    Jul 02, 2008 11:33 PM GMT
    I came across this comment on some website. It's very insulting to say the least. It did however get me wondering what the ramifications of anal sex are. Anyone?

    "Irregardless of your religious beliefs, science has proven that homosexuality is a crime against natural law. Statistics plainly show that homosexual’s average life expectancy is lower than that of heterosexuals (42 years vs. 77 years for married heterosexual couples). This is due to the filthy practice of anal sex which promotes a litany of anatomical as well as pathological problems (anal cancer, intestinal fissures, incontinence, spreading all STD's, salmonella, hepatitis, etc.). We will not get into the graphic details of sexual practices such as felching and fisting. It is also a fact that homosexuals tend to have greater psychological problems (are you surprised?). There is no physiological evidence (DNA) to legitimize the perverse actions of these people; hence, this is a chosen lifestyle which is to the detriment of a civilized society. Our natural senses tend to tell us what is bad and what is good. Anyone who frolics in fecal matter is subject to its consequences and is not of sound mind (and eventually, body… cause and effect)"



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    Jul 03, 2008 12:09 AM GMT
    I can guess where this quote came from. The life expectancy numbers were way off base to say the least. Anal sex can be reasonably safe if done correctly and with the proper use of condoms. That article is nothing but virulent homophobia that is a waste of valuable timber.
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    Jul 03, 2008 12:13 AM GMT
    Straight people certainly never stick anything up their asses.
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    Jul 03, 2008 12:53 AM GMT
    Tell me something I don't already know about anal sex, lol.

    I don't know about the figures but the prevalent danger is evident enough so it makes sense not to practice it.

    You can catch a lot of diseases condom or not, as we learned with that HPV topic last month...icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 03, 2008 1:01 AM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidTell me something I don't already know about anal sex, lol.

    I don't know about the figures but the prevalent danger is evident enough so it makes sense not to practice it.

    You can catch a lot of diseases condom or not, as we learned with that HPV topic last month...icon_neutral.gif


    Human Papillomaviruses can also be transmitted with Hetero (i.e. Vaginal) sex as well as Oral sex. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I hereby call a move to ban all contact sex!
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    Jul 03, 2008 1:09 AM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidTell me something I don't already know about anal sex, lol.

    I don't know about the figures but the prevalent danger is evident enough so it makes sense not to practice it.

    You can catch a lot of diseases condom or not, as we learned with that HPV topic last month...icon_neutral.gif


    Heck, you can get HPV from any skin to skin contact! Better not shake that hand or hug that friend. 27% of people between the ages of 14 and 56 have HPV. If you want to avoid HPV you might as well become an anchorite.
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    Jul 03, 2008 1:28 AM GMT
    Interesting choice of word... "RAMifications."

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    Jul 03, 2008 2:33 AM GMT
    Ok, seriously...
    Can anal sex lead to incontinence/leakages or cause intestinal fissures?

    For the record, I'm yet to to be intimate with a guy...waiting for Mr.Right. I'm not worried about the STD'S and stuff, just the notion that I may get incontinent practicing anal sex.
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    Jul 03, 2008 2:37 AM GMT
    In a word....no
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    Jul 03, 2008 2:53 AM GMT
    Not only are they stupid for their statements, they are stupid for using "irregardless". Regardless already means "without regard". By adding the "ir" they've created a double negative. Idiots.
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    Jul 03, 2008 3:27 AM GMT
    Of course this person assumes all gays do is have anal sex... no mention of lesbians, whom I believe, and mistake me if I'm ill-informed, don't have anal sex on a regular basis...
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    Jul 04, 2008 2:58 AM GMT
    You probably won't find a correlation between sexuality and lifespan.

    You will probably find a correlation between lifespan and those who have and do not have children.
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    Jul 06, 2008 12:37 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said[quote]
    Heck, you can get HPV from any skin to skin contact! Better not shake that hand or hug that friend. 27% of people between the ages of 14 and 56 have HPV. If you want to avoid HPV you might as well become an anchorite.


    Isn't there a vaccine already available for HPV? And isn't it kind of a common cold type thing where 80 precent of people are going to catch it?




    Yeah, Afterfall, "anal leakage" sounds just as unpleasant to me ...icon_eek.gif Though I'm pretty sure it only applies in the long run.


    You're standing up from a chair and then out of nowhere you hear a *squirt*.icon_redface.gif It'd be pretty uncool, lol
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    Jul 06, 2008 2:04 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidTell me something I don't already know about anal sex, lol.

    I don't know about the figures but the prevalent danger is evident enough so it makes sense not to practice it.

    You can catch a lot of diseases condom or not, as we learned with that HPV topic last month...icon_neutral.gif


    Oral sex is also an STD transmission vector. Do you avoid it as well?
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    Jul 07, 2008 10:49 AM GMT
    Actually, had any sexual contact to date but I'm sure I wouldn't avoid it.

    STD transmission orally is infinitely lower than STD transmission by anal sex icon_rolleyes.gif

    Facts are facts, they don't change no matter who you are.
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    Jul 07, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidSTD transmission orally is infinitely lower than STD transmission by anal sex icon_rolleyes.gif

    Facts are facts, they don't change no matter who you are.


    The chart on this health education site puts receptive anal sex with a condom in the same "medium risk" category as giving oral sex without a condom. Of course, unprotected oral sex is far less risky than unprotected anal sex, but not "infinitely" so. For infinitely less less risk of STD transmission, try solo masturbation or anal play with an unshared dildo.
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    Jul 07, 2008 2:05 PM GMT
    RyanReBoRn saidActually, had any sexual contact to date but I'm sure I wouldn't avoid it.

    STD transmission orally is infinitely lower than STD transmission by anal sex icon_rolleyes.gif

    Facts are facts, they don't change no matter who you are.


    No, no, no! I agree that facts are facts, but get your facts right. Giving a blowjob to someone who does not have a condom on can give you all sorts of STDs (including HIV, I should know).

    Being fucked with a condom that is being used properly is probably of the same risk as giving a blowjob without a condom for HIV, and less risky for other STDs.

    You should read safer sex websites to increase your level of knowledge.

    TheBody.com is a good one as is the website for the AIDS Committee of Toronto.
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    Jul 11, 2008 8:59 PM GMT
    I know I was uninformed before and now I'm only mildly informed about all the information surrounding HIV infection but from the site you reconmended I read:

    http://www.thebody.com/content/whatis/art14044.htmlThe amount of HIV that gets in (it's not just how much someone comes -- people have more virus in their cum or blood at different times).

    How strong the HIV is and what fluid it's in. Some strains of HIV seem to be more infectious, and unless you have an STD in your penis, blood usually carries higher concentrations of HIV than semen.

    The ease with which that fluid can get to the bloodstream. The membranes of the rectum, say, pass the virus into the bloodstream more easily than the membranes of the mouth.


    I'll keep reading up on the other articles from the site you suggested, build up my knowledge somewhat, and make a logical decision then on whether or not the risks of anal sex outweigh the pros.
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    Jul 11, 2008 9:08 PM GMT
    You are correct, but TheBody is referring to anal intercourse without protection. I know condoms can break, but I have a sneaky suspicion that is mainly because they are not used properly.

    If you have one sexual partner (your bf/partner) you are safer having anal sex with a condom then having unprotected oral sex with many guys.

    You are right there are trade offs when it comes to sex, but the main reason you should not engage in anal sex is that you don't enjoy it and don't want to do it.

    I have personally never had an issue telling a guy, "thanks but no thanks" when it comes to sexual activities. If they did not like it, I walked, it was as simple as that.

    I am glad you are taking an interest in learning more about safer sex techniques. I wish every gay teen did the same.
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    Jul 13, 2008 2:47 AM GMT
    I think the inter-generational communication is also great.

    It's something I've often thought missing in the gay world. Maybe it's just that I came out in a college town, where you were either 20-something or an old fart (at 27, an undergraduate friend lovingly called me a "troll-in-training"). Also, back then - before some of the modern cocktail drugs - there weren't all that many 30 and 40 year olds around. Or maybe it's just the non-threatening and anonymity of the on-line environment (I know that even at 27 I wasn't going to talk to the real "trolls" hanging out at the bar).

    Speaking of gay life expectancy, the "research" which is mentioned above is based on studying gay obituaries around 1990... most of whom were relatively young. It's bad science, though, as it ignored the much larger ("dark matter") data-set of living gay people. (Imagine someone checking the straight obits right after a tragic house fire killed a family with 4 children and concluding that life expectancy was 15... while ignoring all the people still alive in town.)

    Carry on!
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    Jul 13, 2008 7:28 PM GMT
    JBE60 said:
    No, no, no! I agree that facts are facts, but get your facts right. Giving a blowjob to someone who does not have a condom on can give you all sorts of STDs (including HIV, I should know).
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    Sorry, but according to every AIDS resource I have come across, there are NO documented cases of HIV being transmitted through oral sex. If, as you say, you should know, then you need to back that up with hard facts and evidence. I have HIV, and I only contracted it after I started bottoming bareback. I have sucked literally THOUSANDS of guys during a twenty year period, including guys who were POZ, and I never contracted the virus until the wrong guy came inside my butt. Guys who are NEG and who know me (and know I'm POZ) that I have had oral sex with are still NEG to this day.

    Yeah, I'm a slut, but at least I've studied this thing since I have to live with it. I have also never contracted HPV, Clamydia, or syphillus.
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    Jul 14, 2008 11:59 AM GMT
    Laddy1962 saidNot only are they stupid for their statements, they are stupid for using "irregardless". Regardless already means "without regard". By adding the "ir" they've created a double negative. Idiots.


    Someone else said it for me... "irregardless" people? I think people add the ir so it looks like they know big words.
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    Jul 01, 2010 4:57 PM GMT
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    RyanReBoRn saidSTD transmission orally is infinitely lower than STD transmission by anal sex icon_rolleyes.gif

    Facts are facts, they don't change no matter who you are.


    The chart on this health education site puts receptive anal sex with a condom in the same "medium risk" category as giving oral sex without a condom. Of course, unprotected oral sex is far less risky than unprotected anal sex, but not "infinitely" so. For infinitely less less risk of STD transmission, try solo masturbation or anal play with an unshared dildo.


    Yeah, infinitely lower was a severe exaggeration.

    Besides significant distaste for the act of anal, it's not about the mere existence involved but the significance of the risk involved.
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    Jul 02, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
    the article fails to mention that douching (a prelude to anal sex) is actually very healthy as it flushes and cleans out waste and bacteria. It has been proven to lowering risk of prostate cancer by keeping that area clean. It also feels great.
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    Jul 02, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
    afterfall saidI came across this comment on some website. It's very insulting to say the least. It did however get me wondering what the ramifications of anal sex are. Anyone?

    "Irregardless...



    Right there, you know that the comment you quoted was posted by an ignoramus.