Jeb Bush Repulsed By The Extremism Of His Own Party

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    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.
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    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.


    And he sure had strong support from the Florida ex pat NY Dem Jews so he must have been doing something right.
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    Feb 24, 2012 7:35 PM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeb_bush

    "Political bases: Bush is popular among Cubans in Florida (winning 80 percent of the Cuban vote in 2002) and popular among non-Cuban Hispanics (56 percent in 2002, equaling the 56 percent he won statewide). As a longtime supporter of Israel,[29] Bush also maintains a significant connection to Florida's Jewish voters. He was endorsed in his two winning Governor races by a national Jewish publication, and won 44 percent of the state's Jewish vote in the 2002 Governor's race.[30] Many black voters support his focus on public education and parental choice in education, and a number of Black Republican clubs have risen in Florida.[31] In his re-election in 2002, Bush surprised critics by winning the white female vote in the swing-voting battleground of Central Florida's I-4 corridor.[32] Most recently[when?], he has reached out extensively to Florida's Haitian community."
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    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.



    Oh, you do have a flair for the dramatic, or did I miss where Jeb Bush said he was "repulsed" by the extremism? What I think he said is that he finds it "a little troubling" and I am sure there are many in the party that would whole-heartedly agree. I greatly admire Jeb Bush. I wish he could be a V.P. candidate for whomever gets the nomination but, admittedly, that is probably doubtful --- though not altogether out of the question either. He would get my vote.
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    Feb 24, 2012 7:39 PM GMT
    I never thought that I would see the day that I would support a Bush family member again; but compared to what's today being fronted by the GOP........

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    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.


    And he sure had strong support from the Florida ex pat NY Dem Jews so he must have been doing something right.




    George Jr. was a mama's boy.
    He followed in Barbara's example.
    Barbara Bush is a ball-breaking bitch and proud of it.
    Dubya's divisive style was inspired by Barbara's ball-breaking demeanor.

    Jeb is more like his father.
    More able to see both sides and more able to compromise.

    Unfortunately extreme ambition and an elitist aristocratic world view are faults shared by all Bushes.
    Which makes them unsuitable for the presidency.

    We need a president who relates to average Americans - not an elitist aristocratic Bush who's unable to understand or care about the needs of average Americans.
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    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.



    Oh, you do have a flair for the dramatic, or did I miss where Jeb Bush said he was "repulsed" by the extremism? What I think he said is that he finds it "a little troubling" and I am sure there are many in the party that would whole-heartedly agree. I greatly admire Jeb Bush. I wish he could be a V.P. candidate for whomever gets the nomination but, admittedly, that is probably doubtful --- though not altogether out of the question either. He would get my vote.


    Jeb Bush strikes me as someone who would run on a socially conservative platform and stay on the fiscally liberal side of things. He would be opposed to gay marriage and abortion but be very lenient on something like immigration. Not the combo I like. I'd prefer liberal on social issues, fiscally conservative and tough on illegal immigration.
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    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.



    Oh, you do have a flair for the dramatic, or did I miss where Jeb Bush said he was "repulsed" by the extremism? What I think he said is that he finds it "a little troubling" and I am sure there are many in the party that would whole-heartedly agree. I greatly admire Jeb Bush. I wish he could be a V.P. candidate for whomever gets the nomination but, admittedly, that is probably doubtful --- though not altogether out of the question either. He would get my vote.


    Jeb Bush strikes me as someone who would run on a socially conservative platform and stay on the fiscally liberal side of things. He would be opposed to gay marriage and abortion but be very lenient on something like immigration. Not the combo I like. I'd prefer liberal on social issues, fiscally conservative and tough on illegal immigration.


    Jeb would CERTAINLY have my vote and support. Jeb is quite a bit more liberal than me on both fiscal and social issues, but I'll take him.
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    Feb 24, 2012 8:08 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.


    And he sure had strong support from the Florida ex pat NY Dem Jews so he must have been doing something right.




    George Jr. was a mama's boy.
    He followed in Barbara's example.
    Barbara Bush is a ball-breaking bitch and proud of it.
    Dubya's divisive style was inspired by Barbara's ball-breaking demeanor.

    Jeb is more like his father.
    More able to see both sides and more able to compromise.

    Unfortunately extreme ambition and an elitist aristocratic world view are faults shared by all Bushes.
    Which makes them unsuitable for the presidency.

    We need a president who relates to average Americans - not an elitist aristocratic Bush who's unable to understand or care about the needs of average Americans.


    Sounds like Jeb is your guy.
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    Feb 24, 2012 8:11 PM GMT
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    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.



    Oh, you do have a flair for the dramatic, or did I miss where Jeb Bush said he was "repulsed" by the extremism? What I think he said is that he finds it "a little troubling" and I am sure there are many in the party that would whole-heartedly agree. I greatly admire Jeb Bush. I wish he could be a V.P. candidate for whomever gets the nomination but, admittedly, that is probably doubtful --- though not altogether out of the question either. He would get my vote.


    Jeb Bush strikes me as someone who would run on a socially conservative platform and stay on the fiscally liberal side of things. He would be opposed to gay marriage and abortion but be very lenient on something like immigration. Not the combo I like. I'd prefer liberal on social issues, fiscally conservative and tough on illegal immigration.


    Jeb would CERTAINLY have my vote and support. Jeb is quite a bit more liberal than me on both fiscal and social issues, but I'll take him.


    And how are you "more conservative" than he is on "social issues"??
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    Feb 24, 2012 8:29 PM GMT
    Repulsed eh?

    Let's ask him how he feels about gay marriage
    A woman's right to choose
    Contraception
    All the "extremism" topics of the day .... I'll bet you he comes up right in the middle of the pack.... The loon pack
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    Feb 24, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    freedomisntfree said
    mocktwinkie said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    RickRick91 saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/jeb-bush-finds-republican-debates-a-little-troubling/2012/02/24/gIQAdzhiXR_blog.html?wprss=the-fix

    Jeb is probably just trying to position himself as a moderate Repub in advance of a 2016 presidential bid - but he's still absolutely CORRECT.

    The 2012 GOP party has positioned itself firmly on the radical right-wing fringe.



    Oh, you do have a flair for the dramatic, or did I miss where Jeb Bush said he was "repulsed" by the extremism? What I think he said is that he finds it "a little troubling" and I am sure there are many in the party that would whole-heartedly agree. I greatly admire Jeb Bush. I wish he could be a V.P. candidate for whomever gets the nomination but, admittedly, that is probably doubtful --- though not altogether out of the question either. He would get my vote.


    Jeb Bush strikes me as someone who would run on a socially conservative platform and stay on the fiscally liberal side of things. He would be opposed to gay marriage and abortion but be very lenient on something like immigration. Not the combo I like. I'd prefer liberal on social issues, fiscally conservative and tough on illegal immigration.


    Jeb would CERTAINLY have my vote and support. Jeb is quite a bit more liberal than me on both fiscal and social issues, but I'll take him.


    And how are you "more conservative" than he is on "social issues"??


    I think yes, but you already know that!

    And certainly on illegal immigration.
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    Feb 24, 2012 8:47 PM GMT
    GQjock saidRepulsed eh?

    Let's ask him how he feels about gay marriage
    A woman's right to choose
    Contraception
    All the "extremism" topics of the day .... I'll bet you he comes up right in the middle of the pack.... The loon pack





    If Jeb wants to get the Repub nomination - he's going to have to disavow what he's just said about the out of control extremism of the current day Repub party.

    And he'll have to go balls to the wall far-right-wing just like the Repubs running for the nomination this year have.
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    Feb 24, 2012 8:52 PM GMT
    .... And get a name change .... HA!

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    GQjock saidRepulsed eh?

    Let's ask him how he feels about gay marriage
    A woman's right to choose
    Contraception
    All the "extremism" topics of the day .... I'll bet you he comes up right in the middle of the pack.... The loon pack





    If Jeb wants to get the Repub nomination - he's going to have to disavow what he's just said about the out of control extremism of the current day Repub party.

    And he'll have to go balls to the wall far-right-wing just like the Repubs running for the nomination his year have.


    He wouldn't have to if it’s a result of a brokered convention. If newt can stay in and do well, it makes it likely that no one nominee will have the votes necessary for a win, not at least on the first ballot. If Newt drops out and it’s the two of them, then someone, Rick or Mitt will have the votes.

    Problem is that Jeb has been hugely pressured already to get in and has steadfastly refused.
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    GQjock saidRepulsed eh?

    Let's ask him how he feels about gay marriage
    A woman's right to choose
    Contraception
    All the "extremism" topics of the day .... I'll bet you he comes up right in the middle of the pack.... The loon pack





    If Jeb wants to get the Repub nomination - he's going to have to disavow what he's just said about the out of control extremism of the current day Repub party.

    And he'll have to go balls to the wall far-right-wing just like the Repubs running for the nomination his year have.


    He wouldn't have to if it’s a result of a brokered convention. If newt can stay in and do well, it makes it likely that no one nominee will have the votes necessary for a win, not at least on the first ballot. If Newt drops out and it’s the two of them, then someone, Rick or Mitt will have the votes.

    Problem is that Jeb has been hugely pressured already to get in and has steadfastly refused.







    His refusals prove that while he may be wrong on the issues - he's not stupid.
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    Feb 24, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
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    GQjock saidRepulsed eh?

    Let's ask him how he feels about gay marriage
    A woman's right to choose
    Contraception
    All the "extremism" topics of the day .... I'll bet you he comes up right in the middle of the pack.... The loon pack





    If Jeb wants to get the Repub nomination - he's going to have to disavow what he's just said about the out of control extremism of the current day Repub party.

    And he'll have to go balls to the wall far-right-wing just like the Repubs running for the nomination his year have.


    He wouldn't have to if it’s a result of a brokered convention. If newt can stay in and do well, it makes it likely that no one nominee will have the votes necessary for a win, not at least on the first ballot. If Newt drops out and it’s the two of them, then someone, Rick or Mitt will have the votes.

    Problem is that Jeb has been hugely pressured already to get in and has steadfastly refused.



    His refusals prove that while he may be wrong on the issues - he's not stupid.


    No he's not. If he ever does it and that's a real big IF, I think he wanted to let the family name rest one more election cycle.
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    Feb 24, 2012 9:51 PM GMT
    I ponder how many democrats that must pop into RJ, or how many straight ones if they seen all the hate that comes from their party faithful here at RJ, are or would also be repulsed by all the hateful contempt and aggression that comes from gay and bi democrats?
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    TrueBlueAussie saidI ponder how many democrats that must pop into RJ, or how many straight ones if they seen all the hate that comes from their party faithful here at RJ, are or would also be repulsed by all the hateful contempt and aggression that comes from gay and bi democrats?


    No difference. Had the same thing happen in Santa Monica for the 15 years that I lived there .... and it was also from straight lefties. Constant conflict just like here.

    Some of it was truly comical. Like the one who got so upset at me right after he called me a motherfuckin' republican, he got in his car and floored it in reverse, backed into one of the support pillars in garage, did $3 or 4K in damages to his BMW and tried to sue me for the damages !!!! I have some great stories and that's just one of many. All in all it was great fun!

    I’m quite certain I was the most hated individual in Santa Monica!!!! And they didn't just dislike or politely disagree .... no ... it was pure hate.
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    Feb 24, 2012 10:48 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    If Jeb wants to get the Repub nomination - he's going to have to disavow what he's just said about the out of control extremism of the current day Repub party.



    Not necessarily. A whole lot more Republicans probably agree with Jeb Bush on that than you might think. The Republican Party is at a crossroads of sorts, and Jeb Bush having the balls to say what many are thinking might well be the catalyst to help push the extremists toward the door. What a shocker it would be if there was a brokered convention and Jeb Bush wound up getting the nomination. Not likely, I know, but what an out of left field shocker that one would be.
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    RickRick91 said
    If Jeb wants to get the Repub nomination - he's going to have to disavow what he's just said about the out of control extremism of the current day Repub party.



    Not necessarily. A whole lot more Republicans probably agree with Jeb Bush on that than you might think. The Republican Party is at a crossroads of sorts, and Jeb Bush having the balls to say what many are thinking might well be the catalyst to help push the extremists toward the door. What a shocker it would be if there was a brokered convention and Jeb Bush wound up getting the nomination. Not likely, I know, but what an out of left field shocker that one would be.


    I still think he would say no.
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    Feb 24, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said

    I still think he would say no.



    I think it would probably depend on how it came about, the strength of the wave of support (which I tend to think would be huge within the GOP), and the potential for him to actually win.
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    Feb 24, 2012 11:01 PM GMT
    Pandering to right-wring extremism is what cost the GOP. If they refuse to learn from the past—so be it. I look forward to another 4 years of President Obama. And if the Republicans refuse yet again in 2016, we can enjoy another Democratic leader.
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    creature saidPandering to right-wring extremism is what cost the GOP. If they refuse to learn from the past—so be it. I look forward to another 4 years of President Obama. And if the Republicans refuse yet again in 2016, we can enjoy another Democratic leader.





    The problem for the Repubs is that in his second term President Obama is going to push for gay marriage and all the other progressive priorities that he's steered clear of in his first term.

    Once he's free from having to worry about not doing anything that might make getting reelected more difficult - he'll push for the progressive goals we know he supports.

    That will enrage the far right majority of the Repub party and spark a massive wave of outrage - and there will be a majority voting block of Repubs who will want a very conservative Repub nominee in 2016.
    Who will LOSE.
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    Feb 24, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
    A whole lot more Republicans probably agree with Jeb Bush on that than you might think. The Republican Party is at a crossroads of sorts, and Jeb Bush having the balls to say what many are thinking might well be the catalyst to help push the extremists toward the door.