Hot male ballet dancers!

  • beaujangle

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    Feb 25, 2012 10:51 AM GMT
    They are coming to my city and I want to watch them!

    Have you seen them perform?

    http://www.rocktheballet.com.au/main2.html




  • calibro

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    Feb 25, 2012 2:42 PM GMT
    that's not ballet... that's a bunch a people with really good technique doing jazz to cheesy music. it's basically a lot of tricks... which is like hearing a singer with a big voice just belting every note the whole song are writing a sentence with only big words. if you want to see it go. they are talented dancers, but i think it's all flash.

    here's a great modern ballet company

  • laxdude25

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    Feb 25, 2012 2:56 PM GMT
    One of the great contemporary dance companies performing today is Paul Taylor, and the "junior varsity" troupe, Taylor2. Paul Taylor has been producing amazing choreography for over 50 years, combining the best of classical ballet training with very athletic dance. Taylor himself was a college varsity swimmer, and his troupe has included former college lacrosse players and other athletes (even a former pro baseball player from Japan!). The bodies are awesome, the performances are remarkable, and they are likely to tour somewhere near you during the year if you can't make it to their primary performance season at Lincoln Center March 13 through April 1. http://ptdc.org/
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    Feb 25, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    Paul Taylor hasn't had a good idea since he left Martha Graham. The Lalala Human Steps, however, is fucking genius...
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    Feb 25, 2012 3:03 PM GMT
    Well, the video does say fusion of ballet, hip hop and contemporary dance. But there is a heavy ballet influence in some of the choreography it shows. Sadly, ballets will not pack an auditorium on its own in many places, so this can bring in the masses and show more of the exciting parts of ballet, and wow the audience a bit more. Helps to show the athleticism of dance as well.

    And yes, see Paul Taylor if you have any chance, amazing!
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    Feb 25, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
    I'm sorry, but other than an overly long career, upon what do you base this commonly regurgitated claim that Paul Taylor is amazing? His repertoire is tedious, his ego is legend, his non-ability to teach coherent composition is proven by the "choreographers" who leave his company to start their own horrifyingly simplistic oeuvres, and his sexual harrassment of his male dancers is overt.
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    Feb 25, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    Simply that the 4 times that I have seen the company perform I have enjoyed the technique, choreography and overall performance. Actually enjoyed them more than the most recent revival of the Martha Graham company, though one of their early performances I saw was quite spectacular. Another company that is amazing is Complexions.
  • laxdude25

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    Feb 25, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    I live in NYC, and regularly see performances by virtually all the contemporary dance companies. I'm sure I don't have the expertise of "dancerjack," but I find the performances of the Paul Taylor Company generally electrifying, and much more consistently compelling than Mark Morris, Graham, Ailey, etc. I guess I just don't know anything about dance.

    Over the years, I have also known a lot of the Paul Taylor company pretty well, and the dancers are appreciative of the fact they are treated well with medical benefits, are generally paid better than at other companies, etc.
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    Feb 25, 2012 3:28 PM GMT
    calibro saidthat's not ballet... that's a bunch a people with really good technique doing jazz to cheesy music. it's basically a lot of tricks... which is like hearing a singer with a big voice just belting every note the whole song are writing a sentence with only big words. if you want to see it go. they are talented dancers, but i think it's all flash.

    here's a great modern ballet company



    That was pretty damn amazing.
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    Feb 25, 2012 3:39 PM GMT
    Would have to echo was Lax posted. Though I do not have direct contact with the PT company, a close friend and studio owner in the east does and she relays very similar information.
  • HollywoodHist...

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    Feb 25, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    I don't think a dance company should be calling themselves "Rock the Ballet" just because they toss a few pirouettes in the middle of a bunch of crap even if their description does talk about fusion - it's just misleading. The main foundation should be ballet and that's clearly not the case here.

    But you should still go see them, give them a chance. Maybe they are still entertaining like strippers are entertaining.
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    Feb 25, 2012 4:07 PM GMT
    beaujangle saidThey are coming to my city and I want to watch them!

    Have you seen them perform?

    http://www.rocktheballet.com.au/main2.html






    Went across the links along the bottom twice and didn't see tour of cities.

    Correction: it's in the top right at buy tickets. They're not in the U.S.
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    Feb 25, 2012 4:18 PM GMT
    calibro saidthat's not ballet... that's a bunch a people with really good technique doing jazz to cheesy music. it's basically a lot of tricks... which is like hearing a singer with a big voice just belting every note the whole song are writing a sentence with only big words. if you want to see it go. they are talented dancers, but i think it's all flash.

    here's a great modern ballet company



    I watched it and sent the URL via email to someone who might enjoy it.

    The scene where it looked as if the frame on the ballerina has been frozen in mid air certainly had impact.

    (I'm not a big enough fan of Balanchine ballet to totally enjoy what was going on here. Ho hum, the ballerina was quite amazing and the ballet master was in a black suit with dress shoes on, no close-ups on his face and eyes, hair, and the skin of his legs.

    But, I do correct myself: it is wonderful for what it is. There are times when the male is only the brace of the female dancer.

    Woman in front school of ballet.
    What else can you expect? This woman could not brace her ballet master if he were to exhibit the same wizardry of dance.

    This is opposite gender movement at its best.

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    Feb 25, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    One time the Joffrey performed to the music of Prince. I went. I also have the video.
  • LJay

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    Feb 25, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    For goodness sake, go see them and don't forget to take your opera glases. You should see the other companies mentioned if you get a chance, too.

    Classical or not, there is nothing wrong with fun. It may also be a way to learn to appreciate the heavier stuff, which is well worth it.

    Not having had much experience of dance, I have always felt slighted, even when it comes to viewing sculpture.
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    Feb 25, 2012 4:57 PM GMT
    calibro saidthat's not ballet... that's a bunch a people with really good technique doing jazz to cheesy music. it's basically a lot of tricks... which is like hearing a singer with a big voice just belting every note the whole song are writing a sentence with only big words. if you want to see it go. they are talented dancers, but i think it's all flash.

    here's a great modern ballet company



    Calibro, what is the narrative function of the second ballerina?

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    Another woman.
    Male in the narrative is more agitated. His feelings are more in the forefront than his being a brace in the segment with the first woman.
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    Feb 25, 2012 5:47 PM GMT
    This particular piece is really quite beautiful. Speaking as a layman, I found it amazing, almost exhausting in in its aesthetic (that's a sincere compliment.) The choreography seems at least partially designed with the cinematography and staging in mind rather than a formal stage. I think that I might have a different (not specifically better or worse) reaction if I saw this on a formal stage.

    As to narrative, I think I'd have to watch it several times and 'know the music and lyrics' more fully to make any truly well thought out critique. On a visceral level, it's wonderful. This is a company I'd love to see an evenings performance.

    I've been to the ballet only 20-25 times in my life (live; not counting video and movies or for that matter when it was incorporated into a live opera). Mostly American Ballet Theater, New York City Ballet, and a few performances by Alvin Ailey, Pilobolos (although I'm I don't think they belong with the others). Sometimes for a specific piece of music (i.e. Firebird) sometimes for a specific dancer, sometimes just because of availability.

    While I've been to the opera many more times than the ballet, one thing I learned, is that 80-90% of the time, people judge the quality of a performance based on their likes and dislikes rather than the actual technical abilities, aesthetics, and general production values. I've heard people talk about how amazing someone is onstage during intermission, and all was thinking was "I guess if you don't know the [orchestral] score, then this may seem wonderful, but to me, I heard an academic rendition at best with some awful cuts, a number of errors that may have been well recovered from."

    Famous is not the same as great. Someone may have made a name for themselves in a short period of time and then rested on their laurels for the rest of their lives. There is a difference between putting your personal stamp on an interpretation and cramming everything thing that's performed into the same template. With the latter, you (as the audience) can always count on the same performance, with the former you are challenged culturally, aesthetically and intellectually. One is comfort food and the other, a fine gourmet meal. It's important to understand that difference and not to assume that because you like something it is therefor great. I don't think that in my visits to the Louvre, or Metropolitan Museum, or Chicago Institute of Art there were any paintings of Elvis (or Jesus, or a naked woman) on black velvet yet they seem to be such ubiquitous pieces of 'art'.

    Jack: I laughed out loud at your first comment. (Thanks for that.)
  • calibro

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    Feb 25, 2012 5:54 PM GMT
    StephenOABC said
    calibro saidthat's not ballet... that's a bunch a people with really good technique doing jazz to cheesy music. it's basically a lot of tricks... which is like hearing a singer with a big voice just belting every note the whole song are writing a sentence with only big words. if you want to see it go. they are talented dancers, but i think it's all flash.

    here's a great modern ballet company



    Calibro, what is the narrative function of the second ballerina?

    Givens:
    Another woman.
    Male in the narrative is more agitated. His feelings are more in the forefront than his being a brace in the segment with the first woman.



    that's only a snippet... the actual dance is over 90 minutes and involves many people.
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    Feb 25, 2012 7:40 PM GMT
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    Feb 25, 2012 7:42 PM GMT
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  • starboard5

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    Feb 25, 2012 7:45 PM GMT
    calibro saidthat's not ballet... that's a bunch a people with really good technique doing jazz to cheesy music. it's basically a lot of tricks... which is like hearing a singer with a big voice just belting every note the whole song are writing a sentence with only big words. if you want to see it go. they are talented dancers, but i think it's all flash.

    here's a great modern ballet company



    Couldn't agree with you more, though the clip you posted is as much about cinematography as dance. No matter : artistry puts technique in the service of something larger. Most everything in popular culture is about technique.
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    Feb 25, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
    One of my cousins danced for many years with the José Limón Dance Company after his graduation from Julliard, so it was very fun to see him perform when his troupe came to town. My mother, especially, loved to see him.

    But also when I visited him and other friends in NYC, I got to watch them practice at the Limón studio. Even though I'm going back now to the 70s or 80s, what I remember most was three things and not just their grace, of course, but their stamina. Those rehearsals are intense. The other things that struck me were that so many of them smoked. It was so funny. To see how hard they worked out and then they'd take smoking breaks and then go back at it. I was just shakin' my head in wonderment. The last thing I'll never forget was their ugly feet. I'd never seen muscular feet before and I couldn't quite get used to it.

    Dancing is really hard on their feet.

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    Feb 25, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
    beaujangle saidThey are coming to my city and I want to watch them!

    Have you seen them perform?

    http://www.rocktheballet.com.au/main2.html






    I am more gay for having seen the website.
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    Feb 25, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
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    These bodies look amazing