Stress Made Me Gay...

  • dfrourke

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    Jul 04, 2008 6:14 AM GMT



    Hmmm....

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    Jul 04, 2008 6:15 AM GMT
    I love miss coco peru...
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    Jul 04, 2008 6:55 AM GMT
    I love it, Its a funny theory b/c my mother told me she was stressed out b/c of my father during pregnancy and here i am today lol
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    Jul 04, 2008 7:59 AM GMT
    LOL. You know, that theory fits me too!

    *strokes chin thoughtfully*
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    Jul 04, 2008 11:25 AM GMT
    I have yet to confirm with mom. Interesting theory though.

    Here's Alec Mapa

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    Jul 04, 2008 1:38 PM GMT
    Oooooh I see. I got it backward.
    All these years, I thought being gay made me stress.
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    Jul 04, 2008 2:55 PM GMT
    Stress does impact on the release of hormones in the Mother's womb. It seems to be one of the major factor's in determining sexual orientation.

    I watched 20/20 last week about kids who want to be the other sex (transgender). One little boy told his parents he was a girl trapped in a boy's body at the age of 2! That lends support to the impact of hormones on the baby's brain in utero. Family environment would not have that sort of an impact so early.

    I personally wish scientists would spend more time trying to figure out why so many straight people are screwed up despite all the advantages they have, then trying to figure out why two guys might want to give each other blowjobs. icon_twisted.gif
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    Jul 04, 2008 3:03 PM GMT
    JBE60 said
    I personally wish scientists would spend more time trying to figure out why so many straight people are screwed up despite all the advantages they have, then trying to figure out why two guys might want to give each other blowjobs. icon_twisted.gif


    I dunno. I sometimes see chem-bio research into the origins of homosexuality as potentially scary...because if ever there were definitive proof, the Krazy Kristian Koalition will just change tactics and seek out a 'cure' for us vs just saying we're an abomination of choice/brainwashing/socialization.

    Worse is that there're a lot of self-haters who'd take that cure in a heartbeat. Never mind that, if you believe in any kind of god, she/he/it made you as you are and it's your task to learn to love yourself. Of course, those cured would then be faced with those straight people problems you referenced. Ha.

    But stress in pregnancy suggests it's chemical/biological, and potentially not genetic..or does the potential for a genetic mutation have to be present for triggering by the chemicals? The mind could chase its tail on this stuff all day.
  • Timbales

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    Jul 04, 2008 4:06 PM GMT
    My mother says when I was 3 I told everyone I was a monkey for a few months.
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    Jul 04, 2008 4:10 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidMy mother says when I was 3 I told everyone I was a monkey for a few months.


    LOL Very funny! icon_lol.gif

    Interesting proposition. For whatever it's worth--and this is strictly antecdotal--but I've never seen two more stressed-out, nervous wrecks than my Mom and Dad! They were always that way. Makes you wonder. . . .
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    Jul 04, 2008 4:12 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidMy mother says when I was 3 I told everyone I was a monkey for a few months.



    I suppose we all had our issues at that age. My mom told me that when I was little I was absolutely petrified of the vacuum cleaner. Thank GOD I eventually grew out of my fear of that loud sucking sound. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 04, 2008 4:14 PM GMT
    I dunno. I sometimes see chem-bio research into the origins of homosexuality as potentially scary...because if ever there were definitive proof, the Krazy Kristian Koalition will just change tactics and seek out a 'cure' for us vs just saying we're an abomination of choice/brainwashing/socialization.

    Yes that is a very definite possibility in the future.

    I watched a short gay film last night made in France. It was called "Oedipul ?". It was part of the DVD "Boy Crush". It was about a mother who kept killing her gay son off then trying to have his neurons re-arranged to make him straight. But he kept having memories of his prior life and trying to find his lover. The movie ended with her killing the son off for the third time, and asking the scientists to try and have another go at it. Kind of spooky.
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    Jul 04, 2008 4:15 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]RunintheCity said[/cite][quote][cite]JBE60 said[/cite]
    Krazy Kristian Koalition


    that was a good one. made me laugh.
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    Jul 04, 2008 4:16 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidMy mother says when I was 3 I told everyone I was a monkey for a few months.


    When I was asked what I wanted to be when I grew up I said an alligator (I think I was 4 or 5)! I thought it was a pretty logical answer. Just imagine the respect I would get! Then again I might have been turned into expensive ladies purses or shoes.
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    Jul 04, 2008 4:59 PM GMT
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    When I was asked what I wanted to be when I grew up I said an alligator (I think I was 4 or 5)! I thought it was a pretty logical answer. Just imagine the respect I would get! Then again I might have been turned into expensive ladies purses or shoes.


    @JBE60 At least then you would have still been fabulous!
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    Jul 04, 2008 5:08 PM GMT
    Lmao! Hmm, that would make sense. My mother was a working nurse, studying to be a doctor, aside from running the youth groups and church functions at my father's church. I also have an older brother whose gay, but we're both nuetral-to-masculine. So she must have been a tough cookie during those days.
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    Jul 04, 2008 7:50 PM GMT
    well with the studies of twins, if the mom is stressed, wouldn't both boys be gay? How could 1 be and 1 not be? Same womb. Interesting
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    Jul 04, 2008 7:52 PM GMT
    Cleancut71 saidwell with the studies of twins, if the mom is stressed, wouldn't both boys be gay? How could 1 be and 1 not be? Same womb. Interesting


    Not necessarily, because the hormones released from the mother would not flood the baby's brains in exactly the same amount.
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    Jul 04, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidMy mother says when I was 3 I told everyone I was a monkey for a few months.


    You must have been a wall climber...or had a tail?
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    Jul 04, 2008 9:51 PM GMT
    well I need to buck the trend then.
    By all accounts from what I have heard from my parents friends and my grandparents, my mum and dad here never stressed while mum was carrying me.

    Apparently for the whole 9 months they where over the moon about it and neither of them ever lost there smile.

    So for some reason, I don't think it was stress.

    I do believe that people are just looking for a reason and are creating links that are not there.
  • Timbales

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    Jul 04, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    HighVoltageGuy said[quote][cite]Timberoo said[/cite]My mother says when I was 3 I told everyone I was a monkey for a few months.


    You must have been a wall climber...or had a tail?[/quote]

    I ate a lot of bananas, apparently.

    I also have incredibly dexterous toes.
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    Jul 04, 2008 10:09 PM GMT
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    Worse is that there're a lot of self-haters who'd take that cure in a heartbeat. Never mind that, if you believe in any kind of god, she/he/it made you as you are and it's your task to learn to love yourself. Of course, those cured would then be faced with those straight people problems you referenced. Ha.

    But stress in pregnancy suggests it's chemical/biological, and potentially not genetic..or does the potential for a genetic mutation have to be present for triggering by the chemicals? The mind could chase its tail on this stuff all day.


    This is supposition though. The issue could be genetic still. For example the predisposition for stress may be correlated to being gay with hormones having nothing to do with it. Case in point (that I've used before): for many years the Alzhiemers Institute had found high levels of aluminum in the autopsied brains of alzhiemers patients. For years it was the assumption that exposure to aluminum caused the illness without the correlational information that it may be a result of the illness (which is what turned out to be true.) A group of facts can lead to a conclusion but it may still be wrong.
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    Jul 04, 2008 10:23 PM GMT
    When I was 4 I told my mother that when I grew up I wanted to be a woman. And in a sense, I did.
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    Jul 04, 2008 10:29 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWhen I was 4 I told my mother that when I grew up I wanted to be a woman. And in a sense, I did.


    no offense dude, but as a woman you look like a dyke
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    Jul 05, 2008 3:32 AM GMT
    Actually there is the hormonal theory of homosexuality. After the 1st trimeser (at 90 days) the hypothalamus is being formed. (Up until that point the embryo/fetus has no gender.) The hypothalamus is the sexual center of the brain. Androgens (masculinizing hormones) in large quantity produce males and in low quantities produce females. Extreme stress at this juncture causes changes in the qualities of the androgenizing hormones, thus affecting sexual behavior but not gender. The quantity of androgens is not affected. Gender is not affected but the part of the hypothalamus that is linked to sexual orientation is believed to be affected.

    It's natural that a certain percentage of mothers will experience significant gestational stress causing hormonal aberrations. That accounts for the percentage of homosexuals staying fairly constant. Other biological theories (i.e., genetic) would lead to the extinction of homosexuals because gays largely do not procreate. Therefore, the genetic theory is missing something in my estimation.