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    Feb 28, 2012 2:50 PM GMT
    http://www.queerty.com/roman-ragazzi-gay-porn-star-and-israeli-military-trainer-who-once-led-a-double-life-commits-suicide-20120227/

    Roman Ragazzi, former military guy, porn star, and pure hottie, commit suicide. RIP.
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    Feb 28, 2012 3:19 PM GMT
    Although the outing of his porn job was unnecessary, and there should have been severe repercussions for the Page Six crew at the Post involved in doing so back in 2007 (it's Murdoch, though, so fat chance), the guy should never have been using his job as the place for receiving communications/plane tickets, etc. Doesn't matter if it's the UN or Popeye's Chicken, you just don't do that with your employer.

    Probably unfair to tie in the suicide directly to the Post outing unless more details come forward (suicide note, etc.), although I'm sure people will try to do that. But hopefully the Collin O'Neals of Rod Majorses of the world will use some of their porn earnings to get themselves some consultation and/or therapy after these things happen.
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    Feb 28, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    WOW... That really sucks...
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    Feb 28, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
    The NY Post article from '07, FWIW:

    [url]http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/item_ePhdRts55uHLAS92RIQu9M;jsessionid=BFEC968D44CE453E00210F8A26955581[/url]

    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREAN Israeli consulate official quit his job Monday moments after Page Six asked him if he was involved in a gay porn site.

    Dror Barak, a k a Roman Ragazzi, worked in the administrative offices of the Israeli consulate while moonlighting as a "model" and gay porn star.

    In e-mails to an interested party looking to hire Barak for "modeling" work abroad, Barak - who at first identified himself as Ragazzi - said, "I am single. I work at the United Nations in New York. They don't know about my other job, and that's how it should stay."

    Barak told the party, "I need to know that I am not wasting my time here. And this is for real. I will need you to purchase a ticket for me online with American Airlines."

    Barak directed the source to messenger tickets to his office at the U.N.

    The e-mails got more personal, and Barak wrote, "I am openly gay . . . just to put the record straight. I just started doing porn movies. None of my movies is out yet. I know you mention 'escort.' I never did escort, and I don't do it."

    On Barak's page on bigmuscle.com (under the name gymscle), Barak writes, "I find focused, career-minded and successful individuals sexy."

    On romanragazzi.com, "Roman" is decribed as, "beyond a shadow of any doubt, the sexiest, hairy, muscled stud to turn up in the porn world in years." After a gushing description of his genitals, the Web site urges, "Look for him in upcoming scenes."

    When contacted by Page Six on Monday, Barak said, "I don't know [Roman Ragazzi]. I will call you back." Soon after, he left the consulate and tendered his resignation.

    David Sarenga, the consulate's press rep, said, "[Barak] worked in the administrative offices for over a year before leaving our employ earlier this week. He was a local hire." Sarenga refused to go into the consulate's background-search policy.
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    Feb 28, 2012 6:21 PM GMT
    I feel sadder about this because he was goodlooking.
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    Feb 28, 2012 6:27 PM GMT
    OH NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

    He was one of my Favorites! How very Tragic!
    I will wear black in his honor....
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    Feb 28, 2012 6:59 PM GMT
    I dated Dror back in 2008/09 and was totlly devastated to hear this news at the weekend. I can honestly say, he was one of the nicest, most genuine and beautiful men I have ever met.

    We remained really good friends and I last spoke to him earlier this month. He was not entirely comfortable with his porn career and had many, many other talents. He used to take me to David Barton Gym in Chelsea and was certainly the best trainer I have ever had the pleasure to workout with. Porn was only a very small part of his life - he was incredibly kind and gentle in real life.

    I'm totally devastated by this news. It really still hasn't sunk in.

    I hope that people are respectful in this thread. He was a real man, not a porn star.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:34 PM GMT
    Fitsportsman, sorry for the loss. Hopefully Dror can rest in peace now.

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    Feb 28, 2012 7:36 PM GMT
    dayumm saidAlthough the outing of his porn job was unnecessary, and there should have been severe repercussions for the Page Six crew at the Post involved in doing so back in 2007 (it's Murdoch, though, so fat chance), the guy should never have been using his job as the place for receiving communications/plane tickets, etc. Doesn't matter if it's the UN or Popeye's Chicken, you just don't do that with your employer.

    Probably unfair to tie in the suicide directly to the Post outing unless more details come forward (suicide note, etc.), although I'm sure people will try to do that. But hopefully the Collin O'Neals of Rod Majorses of the world will use some of their porn earnings to get themselves some consultation and/or therapy after these things happen.


    Severe repercussions for the Page Six crew? So let's say that Page Six was responsible for outing Larry Craig back in 2007, and he committed suicide. Should they be subject to the same repercussions?

    Hint: Answer yes and you won't be a hypocrite.

    OK now that I got that out, I wasn't trying to argue politics. My point is that people shouldn't be punished for his suicide. They did their job. You want to debate the merits of Page Six in general, that's another forum. However, if you are at the point where you are contemplating committing suicide, there are far deeper issues that you are facing. Yes this may have been the piece that pushed you over the edge, but it ultimately is a conscious act and is the act of said individual alone.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:40 PM GMT
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    dayumm saidAlthough the outing of his porn job was unnecessary, and there should have been severe repercussions for the Page Six crew at the Post involved in doing so back in 2007 (it's Murdoch, though, so fat chance), the guy should never have been using his job as the place for receiving communications/plane tickets, etc. Doesn't matter if it's the UN or Popeye's Chicken, you just don't do that with your employer.

    Probably unfair to tie in the suicide directly to the Post outing unless more details come forward (suicide note, etc.), although I'm sure people will try to do that. But hopefully the Collin O'Neals of Rod Majorses of the world will use some of their porn earnings to get themselves some consultation and/or therapy after these things happen.


    Severe repercussions for the Page Six crew? So let's say that Page Six was responsible for outing Larry Craig back in 2007, and he committed suicide. Should they be subject to the same repercussions?

    Hint: Answer yes and you won't be a hypocrite.


    Well, WERE they responsible? AND if they were, was Larry Craig working a desk job at the UN, or was he promoting a party working intentionally against the interests of the very people he thought he was tapping his toe toward amdist his wide-legged stance?

    Hint: Answer correctly, and you won't make false equivalents again.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:44 PM GMT
    I hear a fair amount of people in porn suffer depression icon_sad.gif
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:47 PM GMT
    It is sad, you never know what lies within, even in an apparent handsome and confidence person.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:48 PM GMT
    Soccerstud4 saidI hear a fair amount of people in porn suffer depression icon_sad.gif


    Well, there are many good reasons why.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:48 PM GMT
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    dayumm saidAlthough the outing of his porn job was unnecessary, and there should have been severe repercussions for the Page Six crew at the Post involved in doing so back in 2007 (it's Murdoch, though, so fat chance), the guy should never have been using his job as the place for receiving communications/plane tickets, etc. Doesn't matter if it's the UN or Popeye's Chicken, you just don't do that with your employer.

    Probably unfair to tie in the suicide directly to the Post outing unless more details come forward (suicide note, etc.), although I'm sure people will try to do that. But hopefully the Collin O'Neals of Rod Majorses of the world will use some of their porn earnings to get themselves some consultation and/or therapy after these things happen.



    OK now that I got that out, I wasn't trying to argue politics. My point is that people shouldn't be punished for his suicide. They did their job. You want to debate the merits of Page Six in general, that's another forum. However, if you are at the point where you are contemplating committing suicide, there are far deeper issues that you are facing. Yes this may have been the piece that pushed you over the edge, but it ultimately is a conscious act and is the act of said individual alone.


    See where I said "BACK IN 2007" (does that say 2012?) and where I said "Probably unfair to tie in the suicide directly to the Post unless more details come forward?" The fact that the Post intended target died 5 years later has nothing to do with what they should have already done. Now please remove your panties from the wad.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:53 PM GMT
    dayumm said
    pdbrainiac said
    dayumm saidAlthough the outing of his porn job was unnecessary, and there should have been severe repercussions for the Page Six crew at the Post involved in doing so back in 2007 (it's Murdoch, though, so fat chance), the guy should never have been using his job as the place for receiving communications/plane tickets, etc. Doesn't matter if it's the UN or Popeye's Chicken, you just don't do that with your employer.

    Probably unfair to tie in the suicide directly to the Post outing unless more details come forward (suicide note, etc.), although I'm sure people will try to do that. But hopefully the Collin O'Neals of Rod Majorses of the world will use some of their porn earnings to get themselves some consultation and/or therapy after these things happen.


    Severe repercussions for the Page Six crew? So let's say that Page Six was responsible for outing Larry Craig back in 2007, and he committed suicide. Should they be subject to the same repercussions?

    Hint: Answer yes and you won't be a hypocrite.


    Well, WERE they responsible? AND if they were, was Larry Craig working a desk job at the UN, or was he promoting a party working intentionally against the interests of the very people he thought he was tapping his toe toward amdist his wide-legged stance?

    Hint: Answer correctly, and you won't make false equivalents again.


    Nice try. You are saying that because what Larry Craig while being gay and to quote you "promoting a party working intentionally against the interests of the very people he thought he was tapping his toe toward amdist his wide-legged stance", that Page Six get's a past because they do the exact same thing, and instead outs a hypocrite. All because it fits with your morality and view of the world. Meaning Pro Gay = pass. Anti-Gay = penalty. That makes me sick. Using outing as a weapon is disgusting, and if it results in the same outcome, it is morally the exact same as what page six did.

    This is why I hate the gay community. You don't want equality, you want preferred treatment.

    So bring on the self hating gay comments, and have your fill.
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:55 PM GMT
    ^There's the first one.

    "Gay man screams, 'This is why I hate the gay community,' then calls out in a search for 'self-hating gays.' And hypocrites! The Story at 11!"
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    Feb 28, 2012 7:59 PM GMT
    There are 5 guys that go to my gym who are super social, but they all were big stars on their respective gay websites. (Ironically, they all were my faves on their sites, and I just happened to start at this gym last year, but that's a different story). They are all very nice, super attractive, educated men but I always wonder if they are fearful that someone will use their porn past against them or if they, internally, regret their decisions to do it.

    As far as Dror, I would imagine that there had to be more going on in his mind besides his past porn career. Apparently, he had a boyfriend and a good career going, so he sounded like he was on the right track to some degree. Plus, he just did a modeling spread for a gay magazine from what I read, so it doesn't sound like he was trying to separate his life completely from his former career.
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    Feb 28, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
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    FitSportsman said Porn was only a very small part of his life - he was incredibly kind and gentle in real life. I'm totally devastated by this news. It really still hasn't sunk in. I hope that people are respectful in this thread. He was a real man, not a porn star.


    That was very sweet of you to inform us of the type of person Dror was. Instead of him being objectified for doing some porn you helped us see him for the human being he was. That's all that matters.

    I can't stand how so many people here (and anywhere else for that matter) who self-objectify by flashing provocative shirtless or nude photos of themselves for the entire world to see feel that they have the right to pontificate about the actions of porn performer. So many of us are so obsessed with sex but feel we have the right to judge a person for having sex filmed on camera. The hypocrisy is nauseating.

    I've known too many people who committed suicide. And if you know only one person (who has taken his or her life) that's still too many. But I've known about seven people who took their own lives over the years. I hope they are at peace.


    Well stated, mate. Agree wholeheartedly.

    Fit: I'm so sorry, my friend. Keeping you in my thoughts today. xoxo
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    Feb 28, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
    dayumm said^There's the first one.


    I used Larry Craig to make that point. Roman Ragazzi's death is a truly awful thing that happened. My problem is that his politics or sexual identity should have nothing to do with weather the Page Six crew is punished or not. If you want to argue the fact that Page Six in general shouldn't be doing things that it does, that is the subject for another forum.

    My problem is using the law or criminal penalty against your political enemies is down right fascist. That is what happens in places like China and Iran. We are all equal under the law in this country. Either they are held responsible for any suicide that is caused by their actions, or they are not held for any. There is not supposed to be some special calculation for political views in how law is applied.
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    Feb 28, 2012 8:06 PM GMT
    Check this out

    http://www.thepinkcross.org/gallery/?g2_itemId=240

    The porn industry has ruined many lives.
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    Feb 28, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
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    dayumm said^There's the first one.


    I used Larry Craig to make that point. Roman Ragazzi's death is a truly awful thing that happened. My problem is that his politics or sexual identity should have nothing to do with weather the Page Six crew is punished or not. Using the law or criminal penalty against your political enemies is down right fascist. That is what happens in places like China and Iran. We are all equal under the law in this country. Either they are held responsible for any suicide that is caused by their actions, or they are not held for any. There is not supposed to be some special calculation for political views in how law is applied.


    I am in the "They (Teh Media) are not and should not be held responsible for any suicides" camp, just like you. As I stated, unless we see otherwise, it could be any number of OTHER things that made him think taking his life was a good idea, we may never have any idea.

    I am also in the "They should have been held responsible for pointless gossip reporting five years ago, and if not, oh well, it's Murdoch anyway" camp, which I see you are not part of and am perfectly fine with, and I won't resort to pointless name-calling and generalizations of others an a futile attempt to prove otherwise. It's called "respectful" disagreement.

    And it doesn't have to be "law" breaking to get a reprimand for your job, thankfully, in this country. You don't have to commit a misdemeanor or a felony at your job to do something wrong, and hopefully the folks responsible for editing the Post (in 2007) understood that. If the Post doesn't require employees to adhere to a professional code-of-ethics they could have reviewed (in 2007, again) that makes it clear to employees what is newsworthy and what is definitely not, then they probably ought to get started. Because unless what this gentleman was doing was a threat to national security or something, it was not newsworthy, and publishing the story was not professional.

    Also: Belated condolences, Fit.
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    Feb 28, 2012 8:23 PM GMT
    caljock2001 saidCheck this out

    http://www.thepinkcross.org/gallery/?g2_itemId=240

    The porn industry has ruined many lives.


    Now, wait. That's just not a fair comment, and it takes away each individual's accountability for their choices. People aren't sex-trafficked into the porn industry as we know it. They seek careers in the industry on their own volition, hoping for money and stardom.

    And not all those deaths listed were suicides. I didn't go through the entire list, but there were just as many natural causes as there were suicides or overdoses.
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    Feb 28, 2012 8:27 PM GMT
    FitSportsman saidI dated Dror back in 2008/09 and was totlly devastated to hear this news at the weekend. I can honestly say, he was one of the nicest, most genuine and beautiful men I have ever met.

    We remained really good friends and I last spoke to him earlier this month. He was not entirely comfortable with his porn career and had many, many other talents. He used to take me to David Barton Gym in Chelsea and was certainly the best trainer I have ever had the pleasure to workout with. Porn was only a very small part of his life - he was incredibly kind and gentle in real life.

    I'm totally devastated by this news. It really still hasn't sunk in.

    I hope that people are respectful in this thread. He was a real man, not a porn star.




    Good to hear about the real Dror. He sounded like an amazing guy.
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    Feb 28, 2012 11:04 PM GMT
    Thanks to those of you who have passed on your condolences after the passing of my good friend Dror. I really appreciate it.
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    Feb 28, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
    so sad to hear......but are we sure that him being gay was the reason? Plus you def cant blame the post. They might have started the ball rolling but any other amount of possibilities could have made him decide to do this. So if anyone is going to sue the post...fat chance trying to prove that his death is a result of their reporting..which might i add is freedom of the press.