Veep Trouble

  • GQjock

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    Mar 02, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
    Oh the Republican Circus Parade that is the candidacy of Whoever is their eventual nominee is coming to who they are gonna pick for their Vice Presidential nominee

    Previously it was a shoe-in that Bob McDonald was going to be that nominee
    You know the I hate Gays and Fornicators guy in Virginia

    But that scheme has been dashed because he signed into place a bill from the republican led legislature that mandates if a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy she has to have a ultrassonic probe stuck up your Ying-yang icon_biggrin.gif

    Then it was the cute little Hispanic kid from Florida Maroc Rubio
    There's nothing wrong with him right?
    Wrong.... Seems that the republicans want your employer to say if you can have contraception or not
    Ummm... hey boss can I get an IUD?
    The bill that mandates that your boss or company can negate your contraception because that might be against their morals
    That bill is named the Blunt-Rubio Bill
    Is that Shane Rubio? ... Nope that was none other than Marco Rubio himself who thought of that all by himself

    and lastly there is the Gov of Indiana
    You know the Commerce Secretary for George W Bush ... Yeah ...LOL That guy
    But wait it gets better
    His Sec of State in Indiana was just convicted of VOTER FRAUD
    and Mr Daniels the Gov Guy? He said he'd readily reinstate him as Sec of State ...... A convicted felon

    OOOOOh .... Pick one of these guys Pleeeeeez icon_cool.gif
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    Mar 02, 2012 12:36 PM GMT
    GQjock saidBut that scheme has been dashed because he signed into place a bill from the republican led legislature that mandates if a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy she has to have a ultrassonic probe stuck up your Ying-yang

    Stuck up MY ying-yang? YIKES!

    I see your point about weak Republican VP choices, but once the Super-Pac money starts flowing for whoever gets the nod, and FOX News cranks up their propaganda that masquerades as news, any of these guys are gonna look like God's gift to voters. And I do mean a literal gift from God. Because as we're being told from the Right, there should be no separation between church & state.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 02, 2012 1:42 PM GMT
    The options almost make the Palin-woman selection last time around look
    reasonable....

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    Mar 02, 2012 2:01 PM GMT
    I'm guessing they'll go for another small-state person to head the VP ticket, only one with way more expertise and less potential as a gaffe machine than Palin. My money's on John Hoeven (Senator and longtime former Governor of North Dakota).
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    Mar 02, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
    dayumm saidI'm guessing they'll go for another small-state person to head the VP ticket, only one with way more expertise and less potential as a gaffe machine than Palin. My money's on John Hoeven (Senator and longtime former Governor of North Dakota).


    Hoeven? I cant see what he brings to the ticket??
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    Mar 02, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
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    dayumm saidI'm guessing they'll go for another small-state person to head the VP ticket, only one with way more expertise and less potential as a gaffe machine than Palin. My money's on John Hoeven (Senator and longtime former Governor of North Dakota).


    Hoeven? I cant see what he brings to the ticket??


    That's why he's perfect! LOL

    Actually, he'll have much of the stuff "Teh Base" likes on social issues without all the going-off-the-deep-end soundbites we're used to hearing when candidates run to the right (anti-choice but with "exceptions," anti-equality but no Federal Amendment, generally pro-gunz, wanted to get tough on parole for convicts, anti-public HealthCare except for elderly and kids).

    He has executive experience in government and finance (longest tenured Governor in the US when he stepped down to run for Senate; CEO'd the nation's only state-owned bank in the decade before).

    Coming from a non-controversial border state can allow him to talk about immigration from a different angle. He can shape (and parrot) the party's policy on domestic energy issues including shale oil extraction and Keystone XL, using the tie-ins between his policies as Governor and the state's growth in jobs and exports. He's become more outspoken in Middle East issues lately, perhaps to beef up his Defense and foreign policy experience.

    He's been highly pro-Mitt, as he and his wife lead the state's Romney campaign. His Catholicism can help draw back the Repubs Santorum started running off.

    Taken together, he's executive-experienced, hasn't spent any time making fodder for Dems by jabbing Romney, doesn't set off litmus-test sirens on the right, and was wildly popular in his home state with little baggage. As the Un-Palin, he'll keep moderates from freaking out over the prospect he's next-in-line, and allow Repubs to keep the media frenzy focused on the top of the ticket.
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    Mar 02, 2012 3:20 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    GQjock saidBut that scheme has been dashed because he signed into place a bill from the republican led legislature that mandates if a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy she has to have a ultrassonic probe stuck up your Ying-yang

    Stuck up MY ying-yang? YIKES!

    I see your point about weak Republican VP choices, but once the Super-Pac money starts flowing for whoever gets the nod, and FOX News cranks up their propaganda that masquerades as news, any of these guys are gonna look like God's gift to voters. And I do mean a literal gift from God. Because as we're being told from the Right, there should be no separation between church & state.


    "But that scheme has been dashed because he signed into place a bill from the republican led legislature that mandates if a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy she has to have a ultrassonic probe stuck up your Ying-yang "

    That was a proposed democrat admendment to the bill.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 02, 2012 3:31 PM GMT
    GQjock saidOh the Republican Circus Parade that is the candidacy of Whoever is their eventual nominee is coming to who they are gonna pick for their Vice Presidential nominee


    Previously it was a shoe-in that Bob McDonald was going to be that nominee
    You know the I hate Gays and Fornicators guy in Virginia


    "Shoe-in"? Really?? According to whom???

    GQjock saidThen it was the cute little Hispanic kid from Florida Maroc Rubio
    There's nothing wrong with him right?


    Wrong. I have yet to hear a single comment from any of the remaining candidates that would indicate that Marco Rubio is in the running as a V.P. Sure, the pundits, and probably other members of the GOP taunting Rubio would have us believe he is, but I kind of doubt that he would be a first pick -- for a variety of reasons.

    GQjock saidand lastly there is the Gov of Indiana
    You know the Commerce Secretary for George W Bush ... Yeah ...LOL That guy
    But wait it gets better
    His Sec of State in Indiana was just convicted of VOTER FRAUD
    and Mr Daniels the Gov Guy? He said he'd readily reinstate him as Sec of State ...... A convicted felon

    OOOOOh .... Pick one of these guys Pleeeeeez icon_cool.gif


    LOL! Why don't you just admit that the GOP nominee could pick just about anyone and you'd find something to snark about them.
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    Mar 02, 2012 4:08 PM GMT
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    GQjock saidOh the Republican Circus Parade that is the candidacy of Whoever is their eventual nominee is coming to who they are gonna pick for their Vice Presidential nominee


    Previously it was a shoe-in that Bob McDonald was going to be that nominee
    You know the I hate Gays and Fornicators guy in Virginia


    "Shoe-in"? Really?? According to whom???

    GQjock saidThen it was the cute little Hispanic kid from Florida Maroc Rubio
    There's nothing wrong with him right?


    Wrong. I have yet to hear a single comment from any of the remaining candidates that would indicate that Marco Rubio is in the running as a V.P. Sure, the pundits, and probably other members of the GOP taunting Rubio would have us believe he is, but I kind of doubt that he would be a first pick -- for a variety of reasons.

    GQjock saidand lastly there is the Gov of Indiana
    You know the Commerce Secretary for George W Bush ... Yeah ...LOL That guy
    But wait it gets better
    His Sec of State in Indiana was just convicted of VOTER FRAUD
    and Mr Daniels the Gov Guy? He said he'd readily reinstate him as Sec of State ...... A convicted felon

    OOOOOh .... Pick one of these guys Pleeeeeez icon_cool.gif


    LOL! Why don't you just admit that the GOP nominee could pick just about anyone and you'd find something to snark about them.



    CuriousJ, Here's the problem with your last statement, the snark is all based on the truth about these characters, sure you can 'tweek' it based on how they've backed down by degrees from their original positions, but you might as well admit it that this radical swing to the right among the repubs,
    is way beyond what anyone could have even made up just a few years ago.

    These guys are making enemies of their own republican moderate voting base many of whom are women. You've noticed the lack of voters in all the states so far in this nomination sharade and that is because the moderates aren't showing up, the only ones showing up are the very far right and Tbagger types.

    Your republican party is in deep trouble this year.
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    Mar 02, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
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    dayumm saidI'm guessing they'll go for another small-state person to head the VP ticket, only one with way more expertise and less potential as a gaffe machine than Palin. My money's on John Hoeven (Senator and longtime former Governor of North Dakota).


    Hoeven? I cant see what he brings to the ticket??


    That's why he's perfect! LOL

    Actually, he'll have much of the stuff "Teh Base" likes on social issues without all the going-off-the-deep-end soundbites we're used to hearing when candidates run to the right (anti-choice but with "exceptions," anti-equality but no Federal Amendment, generally pro-gunz, wanted to get tough on parole for convicts, anti-public HealthCare except for elderly and kids).

    He has executive experience in government and finance (longest tenured Governor in the US when he stepped down to run for Senate; CEO'd the nation's only state-owned bank in the decade before).

    Coming from a non-controversial border state can allow him to talk about immigration from a different angle. He can shape (and parrot) the party's policy on domestic energy issues including shale oil extraction and Keystone XL, using the tie-ins between his policies as Governor and the state's growth in jobs and exports. He's become more outspoken in Middle East issues lately, perhaps to beef up his Defense and foreign policy experience.

    He's been highly pro-Mitt, as he and his wife lead the state's Romney campaign. His Catholicism can help draw back the Repubs Santorum started running off.

    Taken together, he's executive-experienced, hasn't spent any time making fodder for Dems by jabbing Romney, doesn't set off litmus-test sirens on the right, and was wildly popular in his home state with little baggage. As the Un-Palin, he'll keep moderates from freaking out over the prospect he's next-in-line, and allow Repubs to keep the media frenzy focused on the top of the ticket.


    Hmm, I know Hoeven won election in 2000 as ND governor (I actually watched his non-prime time speech to the GOP convention in Phila) and of course he won handily for Senate. I know his bonafides match up but I was thinking in terms of a geographical benefit. Rubio, O'Donnell (VA), Christie (NJ) are too new! They all have only served on the national stage for less than 2 years - in Christies case no previous elective experience.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 02, 2012 11:24 PM GMT
    realifedad said

    Your republican party is in deep trouble this year.



    I think you just have a short-memory. The Obama vs. Clinton was just as nasty and it dragged on and on. It's wishful thinking that the Republican Party is in deep trouble. I actually think it may be the other way around. Regardless, I have little doubt that the GOP will put forth a solid nominee, the party will coalesce behind this nominee, and a knock-down-drag out anyone could win kind of general election will follow.
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    Mar 03, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    Mitch Daniels was the Director of the Office of Management and Budget for GWB, not the Secretary of Commerce.