R&B vs Pop

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    Mar 03, 2012 7:28 AM GMT
    Which genre do you prefer or both?

    I don't think people like Rihanna are R&B and whenever someone African-American makes music, that's usually the genre they're put into

    (I don't think Rihanna should even be in the music industry, but I digress)

    An example, two singers, same song: Which do you like better?

    Jamelia - Superstar


    Christina Milton - Superstar


    I prefer the Jamelia video because Christina's Milton's lyrics are horrible, and her choreography was atrocious as well haha

    But as far as the song, besides how Christina'a lyrics sound awkward, prefer Jamelia, but they're both okay

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    Mar 03, 2012 2:27 PM GMT
    I remember that song ( though I don't like it much).
    it first came out in Denmark with a local singer Christine Milton and was a hit here, but I think the writers/producers realized that to make it an international hit, they had to get a different type of "package" for the song. So they recorded it a second time with Jamelia.

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstar_(Christine_Milton_song)[/url]

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    Mar 03, 2012 2:34 PM GMT
    I'd say true R&B is dead. All artist in the genre tend to make pop songs for sales, Beyonce and Usher are examples of artist who began their careers as rhythm and blues artist but transcended into pop for sales. When it comes to true R&B I think of Mary J blige, Alicia Keys, Anthony Hamilton, R, Kelly, those are probably the only R&B stars left who sell their music mainstream in R&B.
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
    Real R&B died when Aaliyah passed. Real Talk
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:30 PM GMT
    Lookupimastar saidI'd say true R&B is dead. All artist in the genre tend to make pop songs for sales, Beyonce and Usher are examples of artist who began their careers as rhythm and blues artist but transcended into pop for sales. When it comes to true R&B I think of Mary J blige, Alicia Keys, Anthony Hamilton, R, Kelly, those are probably the only R&B stars left who sell their music mainstream in R&B.


    Well as Whitney Houston said, if you want to truly go far in the music industry, you have to "cross over" and "go mainstream"

    There were periods where R&B dominated the music charts and radio (early 90's and in the 80's as well, and probably before as well)

    Music is like fashion, a revolving door of public tastes as they come and go.

    I think R. Kelly's image has been tarnished and I don't think anybody really knows who Anthony Hamilton is.


    But yes, Alicia Keys and Mary J. Blige are somewhat successful.

    I think R&B can be pop, as it can become popular, but I don't think pop can be R&B.

    At any rate, I like both genres
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:31 PM GMT
    judoguy saidI remember that song ( though I don't like it much).
    it first came out in Denmark with a local singer Christine Milton and was a hit here, but I think the writers/producers realized that to make it an international hit, they had to get a different type of "package" for the song. So they recorded it a second time with Jamelia.

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstar_(Christine_Milton_song)[/url]



    I see...interesting that you'd heard it.

    l I don't think most Americans have heard either version or even know who Jamelia or Christine is
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:33 PM GMT
    Edward23 saidReal R&B died when Aaliyah passed. Real Talk


    That's what people said when Michael Jackson and now with Whitney passing.

    They were just humans with talent, there can be other musical greats. We just have to get away from superficiality and looks and back to actual talent.

    99.9 % of the current people ruling the charts wouldn't get a record deal 20 years ago or even make it through a show like The Voice, X-Factor or American Idol.
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:34 PM GMT
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    Edward23 saidReal R&B died when Aaliyah passed. Real Talk


    That's what people said when Michael Jackson and now with Whitney passing.

    They were just humans with talent, there can be other musical greats. We just have to get away from superficiality and looks and back to actual talent.

    99.9 % of the current people ruling the charts wouldn't get a record deal 20 years ago or even make it through a show like The Voice, X-Factor or American Idol.



    Agreed.
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    Mar 07, 2012 10:58 PM GMT
    To me I still feel like Britney and N sync is pop
    R&B: Is like India Aire or Brandy or Monica

    Todays' R & B is more in the pop genre.
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    Mar 07, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    I would disagree that R&B is dead, but more that is changed form. I think artists realized they had to fuse R&B with their individual "sumptin sumptin." I mean we still have some great artists: Joss Stone, Chrisette Michelle, Estelle, Frank Ocean, Shontelle, Jasmine Sullivan, Robin Thicke, and Corinne Bailey Ray, etc.

    I guess some of these artist straddle the R&B/Pop - Jazz - Easy Listening genres, but I feel that is normal. I think of the diversity of Debarge, Sam Cook, Nat King Cole, Blackstreet, etc. I will agree that a lot of the R&B artist switch to pop, but pop sales. That is the point, right! I can't blame them really because as an artist you want to share your gift with as many people as possible. So it is part big box marketing and the other part "we all have to eat" mentality.



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    Mar 08, 2012 4:46 AM GMT
    Pop. I love it. It will always be around and be dominant. Pop music is as dominant as it was in the 1980s with Madonna,Michael Jackson,Cyndi Lauper etc..

    Plus I'm a Little Monster so obviously I would love pop!
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    Mar 08, 2012 4:52 AM GMT
    I like R&B/Jazz ex. Erykah Badu....her Baduizm album is played daily...I don't care how old it is lol
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    Mar 08, 2012 4:57 AM GMT
    i view Erykah and indie as neo soul and not R&B. MJB is all that's left