GM Halts Production Of Chevy Volt

  • metta

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    Mar 03, 2012 7:31 AM GMT

    GM Halts Production Of Chevy Volt

    http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/03/report-gm-halts-production-on-chevy-volt.php?m=1
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    Mar 03, 2012 7:45 AM GMT
    For five weeks
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    Mar 03, 2012 2:33 PM GMT
    For our conservaposse:

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    Mar 03, 2012 2:57 PM GMT
    I've been starting to see several of them running around Phoenix, and they are actually pretty cool looking. Just as gas is heading towards $5 a gallon by summer, GM halts production? Why is it that American car makers seem to get things ass-backwards more often than not? Let's hope the 5 week halt is just that. This VOLT needs to be successful...and the technology needs to be tweaked and perfected so that it can be applied to every car made in Detroit. It's the only way we are ever going to truly ween ourselves off of the oil we consume
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    Mar 03, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI've been starting to see several of them running around Phoenix, and they are actually pretty cool looking. Just as gas is heading towards $5 a gallon by summer, GM halts production? Why is it that American car makers seem to get things ass-backwards more often than not? Let's hope the 5 week halt is just that. This VOLT needs to be successful...and the technology needs to be tweaked and perfected so that it can be applied to every car made in Detroit. It's the only way we are ever going to truly ween ourselves off of the oil we consume
    Todd, did you READ the article? Why build something that is NOT selling? They have a GLUT on the showroom floors that aren't going anywhere..icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidTodd, did you READ the article? Why build something that is NOT selling? They have a GLUT on the showroom floors that aren't going anywhere..icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, and I can only hope that 5 weeks is, indeed, 5 weeks. That being said, if GM can't figure out a way to SELL an electric car (that actually looks pretty good to) to an American car buying public about to face $5 a gallon gas, then perhaps we should have let them go belly up after all.
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    Mar 03, 2012 3:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    TropicalMark saidTodd, did you READ the article? Why build something that is NOT selling? They have a GLUT on the showroom floors that aren't going anywhere..icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, and I can only hope that 5 weeks is, indeed, 5 weeks. That being said, if GM can't figure out a way to SELL an electric car (that actually looks pretty good to) to an American car buying public about to face $5 a gallon gas, then perhaps we should have let them go belly up after all.
    Well.. I understand the 'range fears'... that's the burning issues with all electrics.. until they can get to several hundred miles per charge and then be able to charge again in the same amount of time that it takes to pump a tank full, this will be the big hurdle for every manufacturer regardless of country of origin.
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    Mar 03, 2012 4:12 PM GMT
    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/03/01/4305174/ford-focus-electric-becomes-americas.html

    And we didn't have to bail them out...

    Boom...

    Roasted...
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    Mar 03, 2012 4:18 PM GMT
    Toyota built the Prius which has been successful for many years. Perhaps the Government bureaucrats did not include folks with marketing credentials, or they were ideological purists. BTW - one of my cars is a Prius, and it is a great car.

    Added: Salute Ford which made strides our companies are capable of doing. Maybe without the Government crutch, they worked harder and smarter.
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    Mar 03, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    The Volt just isn't selling. For one thing, it has very polarizing styling. And for something that's already going to be a bird of a different feather, perhaps trying to blend in for a while would've been a better idea. The original prius was just a boring looking compact sedan with a weird vent on the driver's side C-pillar. Once it was established onto the market it was able to morph into the style-forward icon it is today. People are still trying to force-swallow the bitter pill that was GM's decision to reposes and DESTROY the EV-1s just as it was designing/introducing the Hummer H2.
  • laxdude25

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    Mar 03, 2012 4:34 PM GMT
    There is no question that Ford management has done a great job in rebuilding the company with good product and good quality, marketed effectively, and in the context of smart financial management. At a very critical time around 2006 the Company made a big bet on refinancing and restructuring which was criticized by many, but turned out to be prescient.

    And GM? There is no question that GM was poorly managed for much of the last 20 years. That said, I am in finance, and there is no question in my mind that the government assisted bankruptcy was the only real option at the time. And there is also no question in my mind that the Company is essentially on the right track. The Volt is not a perfect answer, but it is a better car than many of the critics here suggest. But clearly not priced right for the current market.
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    Mar 03, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    Thats what you do when you build a car no one wants. They are selling only 20% of their projected cars and a substantial number of those are to the government. They were supposed to sell 60K of them last year but moved less than 10K. Its a failure. Far to expensive.
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    Mar 03, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    TropicalMark saidTodd, did you READ the article? Why build something that is NOT selling? They have a GLUT on the showroom floors that aren't going anywhere..icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    Yes, and I can only hope that 5 weeks is, indeed, 5 weeks. That being said, if GM can't figure out a way to SELL an electric car (that actually looks pretty good to) to an American car buying public about to face $5 a gallon gas, then perhaps we should have let them go belly up after all.
    Well.. I understand the 'range fears'... that's the burning issues with all electrics.. until they can get to several hundred miles per charge and then be able to charge again in the same amount of time that it takes to pump a tank full, this will be the big hurdle for every manufacturer regardless of country of origin.


    There won't be range fears with the Volt as there is with the Leaf. The Volt has a 1.4 NA that one could drive on all the time.
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    Mar 03, 2012 5:33 PM GMT
    GE is buying 12,000 Volts so that will help a bit.
  • NerdLifter

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    Mar 03, 2012 5:37 PM GMT
    If I had the money, I would buy an electric vehicle. Unfortunately, buying any car and supporting it with $419/year campus parking, insurance, and maintenance is out of my purchasing ability as a college student.
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    Mar 03, 2012 6:03 PM GMT
    The Nissan Leaf and upcoming Prius Plug-in will be cheaper and pretty dirt cheap in markets like CA that give hefty tax credits.

    Many people looking any Electric car likely find they don't really need a car like the Volt with a range extending engine.

    The Cadillac version of the Volt I predict will be a bigger hit.
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    Mar 03, 2012 6:26 PM GMT
    I don't have the numbers anymore, but when I bought my hybrid, I knew that gas prices would have to stay well above $4/gallon (or something like that) for me to recover the difference in price that I paid. I bought it knowing that I'd never make up the difference.

    Price will always be an issue when adopting new technology. The "range fears" just add to the hesitation. I don't know which technology will ultimately replace gas, but I don't see it happening any time soon anyway.
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    Mar 03, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    But I still want something that sounds just like this



    When I can no longer have it, might as well bury me.
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    Mar 03, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
    ATC84 saidThe Nissan Leaf and upcoming Prius Plug-in will be cheaper and pretty dirt cheap in markets like CA that give hefty tax credits.

    Many people looking any Electric car likely find they don't really need a car like the Volt with a range extending engine.

    The Cadillac version of the Volt I predict will be a bigger hit.
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    This concept car is now three years old so don't expect it to look just like this.
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    Mar 03, 2012 6:50 PM GMT
    "..we are still seeking to align our production with demand"

    Translation:
    Nobody wants the The Volt because it's too big, too ugly, and too expensive. icon_lol.gif

    It would have made much more sense to offer a Chevy Cruze electric/hybrid.
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    Mar 03, 2012 7:01 PM GMT
    If Chevy would reduce the price of the volt by about a third; they would sell their entire supply.


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    Mar 03, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    rnch saidIf Chevy would reduce the price of the volt by about a third; they would sell their entire supply.

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    Not gonna happen. GM loses money on every Volt they make. They're just waiting until people regain interest in SUVs again. Then they'll kill the Volt.
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    Mar 03, 2012 7:06 PM GMT
    xrichx said"..we are still seeking to align our production with demand"

    Translation:
    Nobody wants the The Volt because it's too big, too ugly, and too expensive. icon_lol.gif

    It would have made much more sense to offer a Chevy Cruze electric/hybrid.


    Turbo diesel first.
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    Mar 03, 2012 7:42 PM GMT
    State capitalism..."it helps to have no dignity"..."an analysis report released by Mackinac Center for Public Policy in December that the Volt was costing taxpayers up to $250,000 per car when all subsidies and incentives of its constituent parts were added together."

    Don't bother clicking on the video, Chevrolet evidently had it pulled. It not only helps to have no dignity; it helps to have no sense of humor; and it also helps to have little regard for freedom of speech. Welcome to Ameritopia.





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    Mar 03, 2012 8:14 PM GMT
    Arfurnas saidhttp://www.sacbee.com/2012/03/01/4305174/ford-focus-electric-becomes-americas.html

    And we didn't have to bail them out...

    Boom...

    Roasted...


    Oh please! Fords are such shit! You have to take apart half of the damn engine to get to any little PoS causing the problem. Might not have had to bail them out but there styling sucks, safety record can blow me, and they even have a system comparable to on-star. No way in hell I'd drive or waste money on a ford. Until gas hits $5+ then they might think about buying electric cars.