Wall-E

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    Jul 07, 2008 2:44 AM GMT
    So, who's seen Wall-E and what'd you think?

    Although I'm a huge fan of Pixar movies, I thought Wall-E was truly stunning. The animation was unlike anything I've seen before in an animated movie, the story was absolutely brilliant and the underlying message was funny yet disturbing at the same time. icon_smile.gif

    What did everyone else think?
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    Jul 07, 2008 7:35 AM GMT
    Aside from it being an appropriately named film icon_wink.gif , I found it to be beautiful and stunning in looks. I enjoyed the two leading characters, especially our robotic hero!

    Even though Pixar does create wonderful films, I have to admit I wasn't too fond of "Finding Nemo" or "Ratatouille." The last Pixar feature I immediately collected for DVD was "The Incredibles." So I will be looking forward to "Wall-E" when it comes out on DVD!!
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    Jul 07, 2008 10:46 AM GMT
    I think it is one of the better movies that I've ever seen. The visual beauty of the film was astounding. Only the artists at Pixar could create such an astounding aesthetic based on dirt, trash and desolation.

    A friend of mine at work pointed out some of the points of logical holes in the the 'science' behind the storyline and development. My response was, "What movie doesn't have holes in the logic. Any movie requires a certain suspension of belief. The better the movie, the more we tend to look for the smallest flaws."

    The movie's subtleties were incredible. I saw it twice because I wanted to 'see' everything I couldn't take in on the first viewing. Plus the amount of emotional expression the animators created in Wall-E himself without resorting to pseudo anthropomorphic things like a mouth, or sudden non-mechanical movements was amazing as the rendering work done which is always so far ahead of any other CGI company (ILM is the only one that's close and since Pixar was originally part of ILM, it's no wonder.) I also found it interesting that there's essentially no dialog (with the exception of the occasional espressive sound) other than "Wall-E" and "Eve" in story that is both compelling and touching is really impressive.

    Lastly to present such a dour vision of the future (though not dystopic) with hope in an effective way for a G rated film is quite a feat.

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    Jul 07, 2008 11:56 AM GMT
    The animation was good and I really enjoyed that the robots only quasi-spoke (the traffic jam made me smile). However, the story could have benefited from further development. I can’t imagine anyone ever saying "Wall-E is my favorite movie ever!"

    The cricket may have been my favorite character:

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    Jul 07, 2008 12:20 PM GMT
    i think it was a roach actually. which is humorous because scientists believe that when we leave or are destroyed from this plkanet, cockroaches will still be around.
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    Jul 07, 2008 12:51 PM GMT
    i just saw it- it was cute; it balanced very nicely a grave warning to our youngest generations with a disarming disney sweetness- my mom was bothered by the post-apocalyptic beginning and the darker undertones throughout the whole movie, but i really liked it. there were a lot of messages- about culture, human tendencies, what would happen if we all got what we wanted and could spend our lives vacationing- the merit of work- the nature of love, etc.
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    Jul 07, 2008 1:10 PM GMT
    The man who does most of the product design at Apple designed the characters. I love how everything was futuristic looking relative to Wall-E but still had a retro-Apple look. It tickled my inner Mac geek.

    But you know what stole the show? The credits at the end. Showing Man rediscovering agriculture through a history of art was so cool.
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    Jul 07, 2008 1:16 PM GMT
    yeah i agree i really liked that- like the ship was eden and it just goes to show how boring paradise and ignorance really are- how the price for knowledge and a rich life may be toil and suffering- but its so worth it. also, the idea that throughout history, there have been times of golden ages and times of dark ages- with the technology and power we wield now, it won't be long before our next dark age and it may not look like it has in the past... :p
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    Jul 07, 2008 1:26 PM GMT
    czarodziej saidyeah i agree i really liked that- like the ship was eden and it just goes to show how boring paradise and ignorance really are- how the price for knowledge and a rich life may be toil and suffering- but its so worth it. also, the idea that throughout history, there have been times of golden ages and times of dark ages- with the technology and power we wield now, it won't be long before our next dark age and it may not look like it has in the past... :p


    No, it probably won't look like is has in the past, but that's what keeps things interesting! You never know the full effect of what you do today as it impacts tomorrow, but that's what I enjoy most about life.
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    Jul 07, 2008 1:33 PM GMT
    omg - loved it. so many, many messages in this movie.

    and the animation - beautiful.
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    Jul 07, 2008 2:46 PM GMT
    i loved the movie. made me feel all good and stuff.

    i watch these movies and try to think about the making of, and just trying to contemplate the creationg of the worlds, let along the character animation blows my mind. dust particles, random junk on the floor... genius.


    and don't you go bad mouthing finding nemo.
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    Jul 07, 2008 2:57 PM GMT
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    But you know what stole the show? The credits at the end. Showing Man rediscovering agriculture through a history of art was so cool.


    I loved the film and I totally agree, the ending credits were brilliant. The only aspect of the story that bothered me (and here comes a plot spoiler, so for all those who haven't seen it, stop reading here), was how at the end, when Wall-E's memory board was changed and he had forgotten who Eve was, that the writers didn't re-introduce the flame (from the lighter) to symbolically re-ignite the fire in his heart. They had used this symbol several other times in the film and I thought they missed a golden opportunity for a very rewarding pay-off by not having that be the thing that brought back Wall-E's memory. I know they went with the whole "holding hand" theme, but fire is so much more primal and rooted in our subconscious with significance. I was disappointed that they made the obvious choice as opposed to the one that would have produced much more of a catharsis (at least for me) at the end of the story.
    That being said, it truly was a great film. Pixar rocks.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:04 PM GMT
    Loved it! I'm so glad they came up with something different and original. The fact that there was so little dialogue and the story was told more through the expressions and actions of the characters is what really made this movie. It's a movie that has wide appeal from all ages.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:05 PM GMT
    bgcat57 saidA friend of mine at work pointed out some of the points of logical holes in the the 'science' behind the storyline and development.


    While not really a logical hole, I was bothered by the use of Fred Willard as a "live-action" character in the "recolonize" and "stay the course" videos as well. I found the "stay the course" video quite a humorous dig at current politics, but didn't see the need for Fred to be live-action. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is the only non-animated character in the whole movie, right? For that matter, he could quite possibly be the first live-action character in ANY Pixar movie. To me, that detracts from the quality of animation and places an undue level of importance on his character.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:11 PM GMT
    I must admit I have loved almost all of the Pixar movies (I have not seen "Cars" as yet). I really want to see "Wall-E" so I am avoiding any comments on the plot.

    It is kind of a sad reflection on Hollywood that some of the most creative and entertaining movies being produced are animated. Oh well. I just have to figure out a way to sweet talk my partner into seeing it.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:21 PM GMT
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    While not really a logical hole, I was bothered by the use of Fred Willard as a "live-action" character in the "recolonize" and "stay the course" videos as well. I found the "stay the course" video quite a humorous dig at current politics, but didn't see the need for Fred to be live-action. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he is the only non-animated character in the whole movie, right? For that matter, he could quite possibly be the first live-action character in ANY Pixar movie. To me, that detracts from the quality of animation and places an undue level of importance on his character.


    That's correct. It is the first use of a live character in any Pixar movie.
    I believe it was done to intentionally create a jarring disconnect between humanity as we see it now and the psuedo-eden of the future. (That's just my take on it.)
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:26 PM GMT
    Well, that actually makes some sense. I guess that's reinforced by the "timeline" of the ship's captains they show in one of the bridge scenes. As they "progress", they slowly morph into the blobs they are today. I can see that - good point.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:28 PM GMT
    The bf and I both loved it. Pixar does great work.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:35 PM GMT
    I must see this movie.
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    Jul 07, 2008 3:41 PM GMT
    I had to scroll down to the bottom as I have yet to see this movie, and I didn't want to see any possible spoilers. I can't wait to see this movie. Hopefully this week!
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    Jul 07, 2008 4:16 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]JBE60 said[/cite]It is kind of a sad reflection on Hollywood that some of the most creative and entertaining movies being produced are animated./quote]

    It's just not the same having animated characters put out cigarettes in someone's eye, shooting up a room of nuns or banging a hooker. That's pretty much what Hollywood movies are made.
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    Jul 07, 2008 5:38 PM GMT
    I wanna see it so bad. LOL. I watched all the trailers. Wall-E is so adorable! GOD! icon_redface.gif
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    Jul 07, 2008 5:58 PM GMT
    Also if you look at it this way the total meaning behind the movie, like people have said before me, is the over all ideology of the movie is that through destruction the human race (if survived) can be reborn. And that determination and faith can take you where ever you need to go, in Wall-E's place to the stars and to new friends and loves.
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    Jul 08, 2008 1:05 AM GMT
    I'm surprised no one has yet mentioned the gay character of the movie... the obsessive compulsive cleaning robot? named MO (Microbe Obliterator)? I mean c'mon - that's comic gold.

    After seeing it twice, my only complaint was having to sit through two viewings of that awful chihuahua preview.
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    Jul 08, 2008 1:36 AM GMT
    It was amazing. Every aspect of the movie was well thought-out, not to mention it seeps into every subconcious of every young person that watches it. The musical tribute to "Hello Dolly" was soooo cute and so appropriate.