The Stare Down...but with a smile.

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    Mar 06, 2012 1:22 AM GMT
    Full Disclosure: I was in a fairly rotten mood after some asshat at the hospital cut in line ahead of some elderly gentlemen and I called him out on his rudeness. Earlier, I had given up my seat at the lab so that the asshat and his elderly friend could sit together (I tend to generally be more courteous to others when I'm in a shitty mood...until I snap). I also hadn't eaten because I was fasting for my blood test. I've also been angry and hurt from a recent betrayal over the weekend. Several of the elderly patients smiled at me and called ma a courteous young man (at 46 and they are calling me "young").

    So, I got on the Muni this morning (the N - Judah; packed), and on the next stop this girl gets on and stands right in front of me facing me and puts her hand on the bar to steady herself...right in my face with her bags pushing into me. Like, face to face about 6 inches from my face. No smile. No "excuse me". Just pushy cuntiness.

    So, I just stand there firm and look right at her face. She wouldn't make eye contact with me. I continue to stand right where I am (I'm already backed up against the rear doors) and continue to stare into her face directly at her eyes with just a hint of a smile on my face. We make the whole trip all the way to Powell, where I get off. Every once in a while I see her look up, but not look at me. You know, she was looking out of her peripheral vision.I turn back around and she's looking at me with a kind of sour look. I smile, cock my head a little, and wink.

    Was I wrong to do this? Or was I just giving a pushy cunt a mildly aggressive "what goes around" response to her pushy cuntiness?

    What would you do?

    (Thank you all for letting me vent. Let the flamewar begin.)
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    Mar 06, 2012 1:28 AM GMT
    Jesus,
    You must have smelled amazing.
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    Mar 06, 2012 1:31 AM GMT
    This is just me but if I didnt know all this back story and just saw this go down as a stranger,. I'd think "wow that guy is creepy, staring at that girl........and he won't stop. THEN after they get off he gives her a little wink? FREAK!"

    But since I know all this back story, meh icon_neutral.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:16 AM GMT
    Some people have no sense of personal space. Plus I have noticed throughout the years that a lot of females are rather rude and get away with it cause straight guys put up with it? Quite often they cant deal with gay guys as their usual cuntiness doesnt work on us.
    I would have started burping or coughing in her face, but im a cunt most days on Public transporticon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
    Claystation saidThis is just me but if I didnt know all this back story and just saw this go down as a stranger,. I'd think "wow that guy is creepy, staring at that girl........and he won't stop. THEN after they get off he gives her a little wink? FREAK!"

    But since I know all this back story, meh icon_neutral.gif


    I was looking out of the corner of my eye at bystanders and there was one woman who was giving me that look like I was a creep. But then again, I was actually trying to be creepy. I tried hard not to look at the cunt's phone (which she was so desperately trying to stay focused on) so that if/when she looked up, I'd still be there staring right at her eyes.

    I was, though, looking smoking hot just coming from the gym in a green and white polo, guns pumped, and my Momotaro jeans tastefully showing off my legs and ass. It helps that I'm 6'1" also.

    I like being able to freak/creep people out on occasion. It's a powerful feeling fucking with somebody's head like that. Especially since I was in particularly foul mood and had gone out of my way to be especially courteous to others during my morning.

    I know. Odd. I make an extra effort to be courteous when I'm feeling angry and aggressive. But cross me when I'm feeling foul, and I can channel De Sade in a moment.
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
    When someone gets in my personal space I don't just stare but instead I usually say something.

    The last time it happened was on a cashier's line about a month ago. This lady gets to within less than an inch from me when there was no call for that squeeze. There was plenty of room behind me.

    So I stepped, turned and complained sternly. "You're too close." She went ballistic in a language half English and half unfamiliar to me at which time I got a whiff of her breathe so I added "and your breathe smells like shit (it did)." I left the line and waited directly next to the person in front of the cashier.

    Personal space: respect it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_space

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    Mar 06, 2012 2:31 AM GMT
    GAMRican said

    I was looking out of the corner of my eye at bystanders and there was one woman who was giving me that look like I was a creep. But then again, I was actually trying to be creepy. I tried hard not to look at the cunt's phone (which she was so desperately trying to stay focused on) so that if/when she looked up, I'd still be there staring right at her eyes.

    I was, though, looking smoking hot just coming from the gym in a green and white polo, guns pumped, and my Momotaro jeans tastefully showing off my legs and ass. It helps that I'm 6'1" also.

    I like being able to freak/creep people out on occasion. It's a powerful feeling fucking with somebody's head like that. Especially since I was in particularly foul mood and had gone out of my way to be especially courteous to others during my morning.

    I know. Odd. I make an extra effort to be courteous when I'm feeling angry and aggressive. But cross me when I'm feeling foul, and I can channel De Sade in a moment.


    I have no idea who De Sade is but as long as you were lookin all jacked and swole is all that really matters brah icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:33 AM GMT
    dtmyh saidSome people have no sense of personal space. Plus I have noticed throughout the years that a lot of females are rather rude and get away with it cause straight guys put up with it? Quite often they cant deal with gay guys as their usual cuntiness doesnt work on us.
    I would have started burping or coughing in her face, but im a cunt most days on Public transporticon_rolleyes.gif


    Then there was the asshat at the hospital. I was there early. There were two very elderly gentleman there before me. The seats near the reception desk filled up quickly. There was a seat between me and one of the early elderly gentlemen and another late comer. The asshat and his elderly friend came in. Offered to move so that they could sit together. The elderly friend smiled and thanked me. So, when the time came for the reception desk to open, the elderly friend's asshat goes right to the front. The two elderly gentlemen who were there first spoke up that they had been there first and that I was third. The asshat started to say that there was no "pecking order". I proceeded to tell the asshat that the two elderly gentlemen were first and that he should get in line and wait like everybody else. He continued to be an asshat. Once he sat down, I looked over to the two elderly gentlemen who had been there first and said, "I should have never given up my seat to that rude man." The asshat lost it. I was ready to yell, "Security! Code Grey!", but instead noticed that another elderly gentleman with a cane was walking by, turned my attention from Asshat, and said "Excuse me, Sir, but would you care for a seat?", to which he thanked me and sat down. The two elderly men who where there first said, "You're such a courteous young man!" I smiled at them and then I went around the corner to another bank of seats and sat down until my turn was called.

    The City will make that Asshat's life hard. City's which have a soul, like San Francisco, will either accept you or reject you. You'll know which is which by the amount of difficulty one faces in a place like this. It is when people go out of their way to be kind, courteous, and generous that places like The City accept them.

    I experienced this with Honolulu as well. The island either accepts you or rejects you.

    Asshat has karma coming around.
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:36 AM GMT
    Did you say the MUNI car was packed?
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:43 AM GMT
    theantijock saidWhen someone gets in my personal space I don't just stare but instead I usually say something.

    The last time it happened was on a cashier's line about a month ago. This lady gets to within less than an inch from me when there was no call for that squeeze. There was plenty of room behind me.

    So I stepped, turned and complained sternly. "You're too close." She went ballistic in a language half English and half unfamiliar to me at which time I got a whiff of her breathe so I added "and your breathe smells like shit (it did)." I left the line and waited directly next to the person in front of the cashier.

    Personal space: respect it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_space

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    I've had this happen to me before on a plane. i was in the "A" (window) seat, the guy next to me was in the "B" seat (middle) playing "armrest hog" touching my shoulders with his. Normally, I'm pretty good about letting the person in the middle seat have the armrests, but when they start putting their arms WAY over, or putting their feet on my side of the floor...that's it.

    I layed back and turned my face toward him and just stared at him until he looked over. I licked my lips, pursed them a bit, and batted my eyes zexy a couple of times. He recoiled in disgust and bumped into the person in the "C" (aisle) seat.

    By this point I had my elbow and arm firmly on the armrest, and had turned face forward. I hogged the armrest the remainder of the flight.

    Mother fucker trying to play game with me. I've been business travelling for 15 years and know how to be a "get along" kind of guy, or the creepy sadistic fag.

    Can you all tell I'm still in a foul mood?
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    Then there was the asshat at the hospital. I was there early. There were two very elderly gentleman there before me. The seats near the reception desk filled up quickly. There was a seat between me and one of the early elderly gentlemen and another late comer. The asshat and his elderly friend came in. Offered to move so that they could sit together. The elderly friend smiled and thanked me. So, when the time came for the reception desk to open, the elderly friend's asshat goes right to the front. The two elderly gentlemen who were there first spoke up that they had been there first and that I was third. The asshat started to say that there was no "pecking order". I proceeded to tell the asshat that the two elderly gentlemen were first and that he should get in line and wait like everybody else. He continued to be an asshat. Once he sat down, I looked over to the two elderly gentlemen who had been there first and said, "I should have never given up my seat to that rude man." The asshat lost it. I was ready to yell, "Security! Code Grey!", but instead noticed that another elderly gentleman with a cane was walking by, turned my attention from Asshat, and said "Excuse me, Sir, but would you care for a seat?", to which he thanked me and sat down. The two elderly men who where there first said, "You're such a courteous young man!" I smiled at them and then I went around the corner to another bank of seats and sat down until my turn was called.

    The City will make that Asshat's life hard. City's which have a soul, like San Francisco, will either accept you or reject you. You'll know which is which by the amount of difficulty one faces in a place like this. It is when people go out of their way to be kind, courteous, and generous that places like The City accept them.

    I experienced this with Honolulu as well. The island either accepts you or rejects you.

    Asshat has karma coming around.[/quote]

    I think I must be in a foul mood today too, possibly something to do with going to Sydney for MG and feeling less than average. Plus its 100F outside and hot as hell.
    Its difficult sometimes living in a city when there are so many asshats (love that term icon_lol.gif ) around. But you are right Karma will come and get them hard. I just wish sometimes I could be there to see it happen..
    Now dont get me started on fuckwits that stand in doorways: shops, public transport, all types of venues, and dont let anyone through and get shitty when you ask them to move! argh I think I need to go back to bed and start all over again today.
    Gamrican if you and I stood that close to each other there would likely have been a completely different outcomeicon_redface.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidDid you say the MUNI car was packed?


    N Judah metro train from Ocean Beach. I got on at 19th and Judah. Cunt got on around 9th and Judah.

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    Mar 06, 2012 2:50 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidSo, I got on the Muni this morning (the N - Judah; packed), and on the next stop this girl gets on and stands right in front of me facing me and puts her hand on the bar to steady herself...right in my face with her bags pushing into me. Like, face to face about 6 inches from my face.


    So it wasn't packed?
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
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    Gamrican if you and I stood that close to each other there would likely have been a completely different outcomeicon_redface.gif[/quote]

    Yes, there would have been. I keep my business card in my "ClipperCard" holder. I would have slipped one out. Smiled, said, "Good morning, I'm Alan" and if you responded something in kind, chatted you up and then slipped you my card.

    I've done this once, but it was for business not for pleasure. icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    GAMRican said...I layed back and turned my face toward him and just stared at him until he looked over. I licked my lips, pursed them a bit, and batted my eyes zexy a couple of times. He recoiled in disgust and bumped into the person in the "C" (aisle) seat


    Very funny. You must replay & film that for the youtubes.
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
    Im forever introducing myself to handsome "lovely young men" on PT, alas here in Perth it doesnt go down to well icon_lol.gif

    So in another world..." Allan I'm Ross it was lovely to meet you would you care to go out for dinner sometime?...'. Would be my response as I pass you my card.icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    So she's a cunt because she stood close to you on a pack train car, and you taught her a lesson by intimidating her for the whole ride, but earlier that day you switched seats so an old guy could sit with his friend and that balances it all out.

    No, no. You don't sound like a lunatic at all. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
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    GAMRican said...I layed back and turned my face toward him and just stared at him until he looked over. I licked my lips, pursed them a bit, and batted my eyes zexy a couple of times. He recoiled in disgust and bumped into the person in the "C" (aisle) seat


    Very funny. You must replay & film that for the youtubes.


    I volunteer to be the B seat passenger.

    Though I can guarantee that the outcome would be quite different. icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 3:36 AM GMT
    dtmyh saidIm forever introducing myself to handsome "lovely young men" on PT, alas here in Perth it doesnt go down to well icon_lol.gif

    So in another world..." Allan I'm Ross it was lovely to meet you would you care to go out for dinner sometime?...'. Would be my response as I pass you my card.icon_biggrin.gif


    And I would say, "Sure, come meet me at my house.". Then, when you come in to meet we, I would go down on you. THEN have dinner. What a great way to work up an appetite and get over all the awkward pre-sex conversation. icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 3:50 AM GMT
    She recently saw the movie "Shame," and thought you were gonna be her Michael Fassbender.
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:01 AM GMT
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    dtmyh saidIm forever introducing myself to handsome "lovely young men" on PT, alas here in Perth it doesnt go down to well icon_lol.gif

    So in another world..." Allan I'm Ross it was lovely to meet you would you care to go out for dinner sometime?...'. Would be my response as I pass you my card.icon_biggrin.gif


    And I would say, "Sure, come meet me at my house.". Then, when you come in to meet we, I would go down on you. THEN have dinner. What a great way to work up an appetite and get over all the awkward pre-sex conversation. icon_twisted.gif


    Phew besides introducing myself to handsome lovely young men im not great at pre sex conversation.
    Checking flight to SF....icon_cool.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:11 AM GMT
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    GAMRican said
    dtmyh saidIm forever introducing myself to handsome "lovely young men" on PT, alas here in Perth it doesnt go down to well icon_lol.gif

    So in another world..." Allan I'm Ross it was lovely to meet you would you care to go out for dinner sometime?...'. Would be my response as I pass you my card.icon_biggrin.gif


    And I would say, "Sure, come meet me at my house.". Then, when you come in to meet we, I would go down on you. THEN have dinner. What a great way to work up an appetite and get over all the awkward pre-sex conversation. icon_twisted.gif


    Phew besides introducing myself to handsome lovely young men im not great at pre sex conversation.
    Checking flight to SF....icon_cool.gif


    I could also meet you in Honolulu. I'll be there March 13-22. Not quite as far for you to travel, but still a hecka journey from Perth.
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:26 AM GMT
    I could also meet you in Honolulu. I'll be there March 13-22. Not quite as far for you to travel, but still a hecka journey from Perth.[/quote]

    I'll be in Thailand later this week. I've always wanted to go to Honolulu it really doesnt matter about the travel part, EVERYWHERE is so far away from here, except Bali and thats just hideous now days.

    SF though has always been the 1st place in the states I would love to go, ever since I read Baby Cakes, ah I want romance in the gay capital of the world lol. Or just cheap sex and deep conversation.
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:34 AM GMT
    Semigrounded saidSo she's a cunt because she stood close to you on a pack train car, and you taught her a lesson by intimidating her for the whole ride, but earlier that day you switched seats so an old guy could sit with his friend and that balances it all out.

    No, no. You don't sound like a lunatic at all. icon_rolleyes.gif


    First of all, I am "crazy as a shit house loon", not a lunatic. Get it right. Thank you very much. And, I fully believe that homicide is much more cathartic than suicide if you're really going to flip your wig. At least there is an "interesting" life on death row. icon_lol.gif

    Second, she nearly sidearmed my face to grab one of the bars on the train. And, the train was not yet moving, so it wasn't like she lost her balance or anything. A simple, "Excuse me" would have been much nicer than just shoving her arm inches from my face. It didn't help that she kept bumping her clunky bags against me. At least I have the courtesy to take my pack off and put it between my feet when the train is packed.

    Finally, no. Nothing balances it out. Because I'm still in a foul mood and if there was some way I could reach across the internet and rip the windpipes right out of other people's throats right now...I would feel much better. But I can't. So, I'm sitting here ranting, eating candy, potato chips, oranges, almond butter and strawberry jam sandwiches on whole wheat, and xanax. No liquor. I don't feel like pulling a Whitney or a Judy tonight. Besides, the cat would finally get its' wish and eat the eyes out of my dead carcass and I don't want to give her that pleasure.

    Looking back on it all, it's probably all the way it is The Year of the Dragon and because we had an earthquake this morning and everybody was probably on edge thinking about dying a horrible death in a "pancake collapse" of their building upon waking. Wouldn't it be a much more interesting demise to have your trachea pulled out of your neck in one swift grab? Far less boring for the newspapers than simply dying in an earthquake.

    Ok, that's my last rant for tonight. Thank you SG for giving me fodder upon which to vent.

    Ahhhhhhhh! Exhale. I feel SOOOO much better now.

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    Mar 06, 2012 4:35 AM GMT
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    ... ah I want romance in the gay capital of the world lol. Or just cheap sex and deep conversation.


    You can find both here...with me! ;-)