Does anybody on here want a war with Iran?

  • DesireIron

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    Mar 06, 2012 1:22 AM GMT
    Just curious if there are people out that want a war with Iran.
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:45 AM GMT
    No. But you might want to check the "Bomb Iran Now" topic.
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    Mar 06, 2012 2:51 AM GMT
    I wanna grope some hot Iranian guys. Fuck a damn war.
  • KissTheSky

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    Mar 06, 2012 2:52 AM GMT
    Hasn't every Republican presidential candidate promised a war with Iran?
    Just what America needs, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 06, 2012 3:31 AM GMT
    It could be better than the alternative - a nuclear Iranian regime.
    Something which scares Iran's Arab neighbors and Turkey, amongst others.

    Let's hope the sanctions work.

    Or perhaps that "spring" will return to Iran, as it tried in 2009, and end the rule of the non-democratic, theocratic, Ayatollahs.

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    Mar 06, 2012 3:43 AM GMT
    Not especially.

    I'd much rather see us (USA in particular) get away from middle-eastern oil dependency and drill/mine/harvest the fuck out of our own resources, which have not been tapped, and sequestering them for domestic use only, while transferring much of our imperialistic policy cost to that of space-racing the development of solar harvesting arrays, wind power, fusion, and algae based petroleum generation.

    And if Iran gets nukes? Israel has plenty of nukes to reduce Iran to the stone age, if the need should ever arise.

    And if Iran targets us, we are more than capable of turning their nation into a glass parking lot as well.
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    Mar 06, 2012 5:49 AM GMT
    AlphaTrigger saidNot especially.

    I'd much rather see us (USA in particular) get away from middle-eastern oil dependency and drill/mine/harvest the fuck out of our own resources, which have not been tapped, and sequestering them for domestic use only, while transferring much of our imperialistic policy cost to that of space-racing the development of solar harvesting arrays, wind power, fusion, and algae based petroleum generation.

    And if Iran gets nukes? Israel has plenty of nukes to reduce Iran to the stone age, if the need should ever arise.

    And if Iran targets us, we are more than capable of turning their nation into a glass parking lot as well.


    "and sequestering them for domestic use only"

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    Mar 06, 2012 6:06 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidNo. But you might want to check the "Bomb Iran Now" topic.


    And check it NOW while there's still time!

    I assume you know it's a complete troll thread.

    However, the situation is looking serious. Israel made good on its word in 1981 and 2007.

    http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/03/05/israels-channel-2-u-s-officials-believe-netanyahu-has-already-decided-to-strike-iran/#
  • creature

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    Mar 06, 2012 12:32 PM GMT
    I don't, and it looks like Iran is trying to deflect a war.

    First, Iran dismissed the death order penalty of a former Marine accused of spying and has ordered a retrial.

    Iran is also now granting UN inspectors permission to inspect a formally forbidden location:

    TEHRAN, Iran — Iran will grant U.N. inspectors access to a military complex where the U.N. nuclear agency suspects secret atomic work has been carried out, the semi-official ISNA news agency reported Tuesday.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/06/iran-un-inspectors_n_1323257.html
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:00 PM GMT
    Do you think the timing of this "concession" is a coincidence?

    So months after the IAEA requested access to a facility Iran will finally allow access?
    Now that they've "straightened up the house"?
    And they still haven't said when access will be provided, or to what parts of the facility.

    IAEA has wanted to visit Parchin since 2004. They were given access once in 2005, but not to the section that is suspected.


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/05/us-nuclear-iran-iaea-idUSTRE8240F320120305

    IAEA has "serious concerns" as Iran boosts nuclear work
    By Fredrik Dahl
    VIENNA | Mon Mar 5, 2012

    (Reuters) - Iran has tripled its monthly production of higher-grade enriched uranium and the U.N. nuclear watchdog has "serious concerns" about possible military dimensions to Tehran's atomic activities, the agency's chief said on Monday.

    As International Atomic Energy Agency head Yukiya Amano voiced his concerns at an IAEA meeting, U.S. President Barack Obama told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Washington "has Israel's back" and would not let Iran get nuclear arms.

    Amano told a news conference at the IAEA in Vienna there were indications of unspecified "activities" at an Iranian military site which his inspectors want to visit as part of a probe into fears Iran may be seeking nuclear weapons capability.

    His remarks confirmed comments made by IAEA diplomats to Reuters last week when one said: "we have heard about possible sanitation" of the Parchin site that he called "very concerning," suggesting Iran may be delaying access while it removed evidence of suspect activities.

    The United States and its Western allies are seeking Russian and Chinese backing to rebuke Iran at the week-long IAEA board meeting, that began on Monday, over its failure to address the agency's growing concerns.

    ...Since the IAEA's previous report in November, Amano said Iran had tripled monthly production of uranium refined to a fissile concentration of 20 percent - well above the level usually needed to fuel nuclear power plants.
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:15 PM GMT



    The idea of a nuclear exchange is rather silly. Does anyone think the radiation is going to respect the borders of all those cheek-and-jowl countries? And just just what do you suppose would happen to all that oil combined with thermonuclear explosions?
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    meninlove saidThe idea of a nuclear exchange is rather silly. Does anyone think the radiation is going to respect the borders of all those cheek-and-jowl countries? And just just what do you suppose would happen to all that oil combined with thermonuclear explosions?

    Of course it is.
    In our frame of reference.

    http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/ahmadinejads-demons
    in December 2001, former Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani explained that “the use of even one nuclear bomb inside Israel will destroy everything.” On the other hand, if Israel responded with its own nuclear weapons, it “will only harm the Islamic world. It is not irrational to contemplate such an eventuality.” Rafsanjani thus spelled out a macabre cost-benefit analysis. It might not be possible to destroy Israel without suffering retaliation. But, for Islam, the level of damage Israel could inflict is bearable—only 100,000 or so additional martyrs for Islam.

    Recall that Rafsanjani was a "moderate"....
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    I think it worthwhile to consider that the scientists etc that are employed in these countries as well as some rather intelligent people in their militaries are not likely to sit idly by while their families etc risk this kind of horror.

    As well, there are a great deal of intelligent people in these countries that know what consequences from other major countries would be in store for them should there even be a limited nuclear exchange.

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    Mar 06, 2012 4:30 PM GMT
    I might as well ask for the world to end..
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:31 PM GMT
    True, meninlove, but consider the irony:
    Einstein was a pacifist.
    Yet he helped produce the atom bomb.

    Unfortunately there are scientists who are politically motivated, too.
    In causes that we would deem evil.
    Just as we have doctors who left their profession to become terrorists.

    Then there's A Q Khan, too.

    As the Tom Lehrer song goes, "I make them go up, but where they come down, is not my department, says Werner von Braun".
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 06, 2012 4:36 PM GMT
    No. I am deeply opposed to a war with Iran. The US cannot afford another costly war expedition, the potential loss of American soldiers lives is just not worth it. Plus such a war could easily bankrupt the US and put us in exactly the same horrendous position as Greece, Ireland, and Portugal. The US needs to start minding its own damn business and start focusing heavily on our domestic problems. It is time to roll back on foreign involvement. America needs to come first.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 06, 2012 4:45 PM GMT
    No no absolutely NO! If Israel wants to do a pre-emptive strike -- fine -- but we should only get involved if it looks like things are going to go real bad real fast. I suspect Israel wouldn't strike first unless they planned on something extremely effective to eliminate any immediate threat. I hope Israel takes a deep breath and doesn't do anything pre-emptive. Though, I can understand their fears. I'm sure we would not be thrilled if Mexico were developing a nuclear weapon and threatening to take out Los Angeles or San Diego.
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Wolverine4 saidTrue, meninlove, but consider the irony:
    Einstein was a pacifist.
    Yet he helped produce the atom bomb.

    Unfortunately there are scientists who are politically motivated, too.
    In causes that we would deem evil.
    Just as we have doctors who left their profession to become terrorists.

    Then there's A Q Khan, too.

    As the Tom Lehrer song goes, "I make them go up, but where they come down, is not my department, says Werner von Braun".

    Dr. Josef Mengele, the Angel of Death, was a physician, whose scientific work occurred at Auschwitz and Dachau. He was especially interested in cold water immersion of humans, along with numerous experiments on twins. By the way, many suggested the US should mind its own business and not get involved. Sounds familiar. I read panels on many of the experiments while visiting Dachau. It is open as a museum near Munich. You can read about this physician here, and an excerpt on the Hungarian twins follows. There is more that can be read about these twins, their participation in experiments in more detail on other sites.
    http://www.kawvalley.k12.ks.us/schools/rjh/marneyg/04_holocaust-projects/04_mccune_medical-experiments.htm

    HUNGARIAN TWINS

    One pair of unfortunate Hungarian twins arrived at Auschwitz late in 1943. They were taken to Josef Mengele right away. The pair was described as athletic, handsome, around the age of eighteen, and of having lots of body hair. Mengele took several days to examine the Hungarian twins. He had their whole body closely measured and x-rayed and had them be photographed in several different positions including standing with their arms up in order to photograph their underarm hair. He then had tubes forced down their noses and into their lungs and then they were ventilated with gas. This caused them to cough so badly that they had to be restrained. The twin's saliva was collected and examined.

    For the experiment the twins were set in hot water until they almost passed out. Then Mengele had them strapped onto tables and had their hair plucked out; they had to be placed back into the hot water several times. Next, they were totally shaven off of any hair that was still remaining and photographed again. After many other traumas, that were quite disgusting, the pair of young Hungarians were injected in their hearts with poison. They were dead after only three weeks at Auschwitz. Their organs were dissected and sent to the Institute of Biological Racial and Evolutionary Research in Berlin.
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    Mar 06, 2012 4:59 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidNo no absolutely NO! If Israel wants to do a pre-emptive strike -- fine -- but we should only get involved if it looks like things are going to go real bad real fast. I suspect Israel wouldn't strike first unless they planned on something extremely effective to eliminate any immediate threat. I hope Israel takes a deep breath and doesn't do anything pre-emptive. Though, I can understand their fears. I'm sure we would not be thrilled if Mexico were developing a nuclear weapon and threatening to take out Los Angeles or San Diego.


    Or Phoenix.

    Get Israel what they need to do it and do it effectively and get it done on the first try as they did so well in 1981 and 2007. Help as much as we can without getting directly involved, however, if we need to help, so be it. Let’s just stop talking and get to it. Did you listen to Bibi last night in his speech to AIPAC? It’s coming.
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    Mar 06, 2012 5:10 PM GMT
    Bibi's full speech to AIPAC last night. Great man! He means what he says. Action coming soon.

    http://www.therightscoop.com/netanyahus-full-speech-at-aipac/
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    Mar 06, 2012 5:21 PM GMT
    listen carefully RLD

    http://www.therightscoop.com/netanyahus-full-speech-at-aipac/

    It's coming and soon.
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    Mar 06, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
    lol, Wolverine and socal, doh. There are horrible people in just about every demographic. Neither of you are considering their numbers. You can find a few bad ones, but I can find thousands of the good.

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    Mar 06, 2012 5:38 PM GMT
    SxyDrkHair said
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    Stupid AIPAC!!!



    Go AIPAC and long live Bibi

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    Mar 06, 2012 5:44 PM GMT
    SxyDrkHair said
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    meninlove said lol, Wolverine and socal, doh.


    And freedomisntfree, of course. (Or "Old Geezer" as RLD and I call him!)


    No wonder why I have them on my ignore list.icon_biggrin.gif


    because you're a pussy.
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    Mar 06, 2012 5:53 PM GMT
    SxyDrkHair said
    Pouncer said
    meninlove said lol, Wolverine and socal, doh.


    And freedomisntfree, of course. (Or "Old Geezer" as RLD and I call him!)


    No wonder why I have them on my ignore list.icon_biggrin.gif

    To SxyDrkHair, but probably blocked

    Funny - you said you wanted to ignore me because of "everything I said against the Palestinians making your blood boil". As I told you before, I have never commented against the Palestinians or supported any Israeli action involving Palestine, directly or indirectly.

    My comments have been very focused on the bigotry of one member against Jews and on matters involving Iran. If you associate with with being against Palestine, then I feel very sorry for you.