Blonds & Gingers getting fewer? No!

  • beaujangle

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    Mar 07, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
    While the recessive gene theory makes sense, I doubt very much that these 2 groups of hotties (well they are hotties, in my opinion) are getting fewer and fewer and may even come to extinction in, say, 200 years' time. I've just relocated to Auckland, New Zealand and I can't help but to see at least a blond (the shades vary between dark blond and blond blond) at every block in the streets. & I'm pretty sure many of them are natural as I tend to look at guys eg the straight ones who don't really care about looks and it's kind of obvious that it's not dyed. And a few gingers around too but not at every corner. Yes, I'm happy gazing at them, discreetly of course!

    If you're a blond & ginger lover/ observer, what's your observation in your city? Are they endangered species?
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    Mar 07, 2012 11:00 AM GMT
    Without selection it takes a lot longer than 200 years for a recessive trait to disappear from drift alone.
  • commoncoll

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    Mar 07, 2012 11:31 AM GMT
    Red hair make up 2% of the world population of 7 billion. That's millions of people. Blond hair are much more common. Unless you start to selectively eliminate or breed against them, they will never go extinct as long as the rest of the humans are around. Or at least it will take thousands of years of selection against them to eliminate them out of genetic pool.

    Lighter eyes are even more common.
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    Mar 07, 2012 2:49 PM GMT
    No.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2007/08/update-on-redhead-hoax/
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    Mar 07, 2012 4:07 PM GMT
    Look to Brazil. That is the variety of pigmentation that is to come...we shall see how the enviornment (ie: UV light and adaptation), globalization, and inter-ethnic relationships affect this trend. I for one love a spectrum of people and a plethora of cultures, but some things may be out of our control.
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  • Celticmusl

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    Mar 07, 2012 4:20 PM GMT
    Haaretz saidNo.

    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2007/08/update-on-redhead-hoax/



    In my small high school I was one out of a half dozen red heads in the roughly 100 count class. I now work at a company where there are two redheads(including myself) in a department of over 200. Some people in the department has never even known a red head before.
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    Mar 07, 2012 4:22 PM GMT
    And being gay does help the extinction at all. And the dark continent is the most anti gay and has the highest fertility rate.
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    Mar 07, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    Just get a good colorist, jeeze.
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    Mar 07, 2012 4:45 PM GMT
    My family is Swedish and Scottish, so growing up it was all blondes and redheads. And personally, I love red hair. I think it is so attractive- I'm attracted to lots of different shades, it depends on the guy right? But I have a slightly stronger affinity for red hair and blonde/ light brown hair than dark hair colors. I don't know why, it's just a pleasing look IMO.

    So, depending on how my bf/future husband and I have kids, if we decide to go the surrogate route, they will probably also be blonde or redheaded. Not trying to necessarily preserve the trait, that's just how they will probably turn out- due to our genetics and our friend who wants to carry a baby for us has amazing red hair and her sister and mom are blonde.
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    From personal research and articles I've read, it will be a long time before blondes and redheads go extinct. But that trait will never be fully eradicated, recessive genes have a tendency to pop up sporadically.
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    Mar 07, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
    This can't be! I was checking out blondes and redheads all week long... are Nazi's turning on themselves now? Where are they all going?
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    Mar 07, 2012 6:47 PM GMT
    Depends where you are. In Los Angeles there are so many illegal Mexicans and other dark haired people here but if I travel to a white suburb in Orange County I see all blonds. They move away I think when the demographics change.
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    Mar 07, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
    Wigs or hair dye.

    I live in LA. I think blondes are the majority here.
    Every woman who moves here magically turns blonde within a few weeks. Some guys do too.
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    Mar 07, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
    I have natural dirty blond hair (light blond in summer) but my scruff grows in red and reddish-blond.

    I was told by someone, so don't quote me icon_cool.gif, that blond is a recessive trait and red is a genetic mutation of a trait so this is why two blonds, a blond and a brunette, or two brunettes can have a redheaded kid. So if this is true natural blonds can potentially go "extinct" as the recessive gene can die out but redheads can't as the genetic mutation will always occur causing the recessive trait of red hair, but they can get smaller in numbers.

    From wiki:

    Red hair occurs on approximately 1–2% of the human population.[1][2] It occurs more frequently (2–6%) in people of northern or western European ancestry, and less frequently in other populations. Red hair appears in people with two copies of a recessive gene on chromosome 16 which causes a mutation in the MC1R protein.


    My friend throws everything off though she was born with black hair and naturally went blond.
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    Mar 07, 2012 9:59 PM GMT
    There must also be some co-recessive nature to red hair. I just have to look to my family. My dad had red hair and my mom was a brunette (we think) or perhaps a dirty blond. First born, my oldest sister, started out blond and turned brunette so I'm thinking she had my mom's hair color, before she died her hair blond. The next sister had bright red hair as a child and through much of her adult life. The next sister started out blond as a child, became a strawberry blond as an adolescent, and her hair turned a kind of honey, brownish red as an adult. My hair was red until my 30s when it started going a kind of chestnut brown before some mixture of white, blond, red and brown. My younger brother is still a carrot top and he's nearly 50. Then there are the red beards some people have even though the hair on their head is not red. So the red headed gene seems to express itself in different ways even if it is not on the head.
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    Mar 08, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    man made blonds
  • conservativej...

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    Mar 08, 2012 1:29 AM GMT
    I won't speak to my city or cities as such, but within my extended family blond is the rule, probably split 60/40.
  • Borski1992

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    Mar 08, 2012 1:45 AM GMT
    Red Heads won't go extinct in 200 years unless there is a massive singularity of mutation among the gene, or people actively castrate them and selectively breed against them. There is an equilibrium that unless an outside forces away from it (mutation, selection) the genes will stay in the gene pool. There are a lot of things that are recessive, that doesn't mean that they are all going to become extinct. Genetics simply doesn't work that way.

    And besides, saying they are going extinct makes it sound like they aren't human.
  • beaujangle

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    Mar 09, 2012 10:06 AM GMT