Study: Gays in military don't hurt ability to fight

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    Jul 08, 2008 3:20 AM GMT
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    Study: Gays in the military is unlikely to undermine the ability to fight and win

    Study led by retired military officers; three-star Air Force lieutenant general

    Panel points to the British and Israeli militaries in which gays serve openly


    "Navy Vice Adm. Jack Shanahan said he had no opinion on the issue when he joined the panel, having never confronted it in his 35-year military career. A self-described Republican who opposes the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war, Shanahan said he was struck by the loss of personal integrity required by individuals to carry out "don't ask, don't tell."

    "Everyone was living a big lie -- the homosexuals were trying to hide their sexual orientation and the commanders were looking the other way because they didn't want to disrupt operations by trying to enforce the law," he said."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/military.gays.ap/index.html

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    Jul 08, 2008 4:19 AM GMT
    Don't get them all confused with reality man icon_confused.gif

    This is the America where it's okay to discriminate !
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    Jul 08, 2008 4:39 AM GMT
    It will be interesting to see if this study is mentioned during the presidential campaign.
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    Jul 08, 2008 4:40 AM GMT
    GQjock saidDon't get them all confused with reality man icon_confused.gif

    This is the America where it's okay to discriminate !


    Be quiet subversive, lest we send you to a reeducation facility in lush Montana! icon_mad.gif
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    Jul 08, 2008 4:46 AM GMT
    I don't need a study to tell me that.

    If someone is pointing a gun in your face, are you going to be thinking of the gay guy next to you? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 08, 2008 1:05 PM GMT
    um, the whole freggin' Roman army was gay (or at least encouraged to have gay relations with their comrades, and were made to worship the god of homosexual love before every battle- Eros) and look what they accomplished :p it was thought that they'd fight harder if they loved each other. so much for macho men having to love the vagina to define their masculinity.
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    Jul 08, 2008 1:34 PM GMT
    I think it's really interesting you bring that up, czarodziej. Plato's Symposium goes into some good detail about the benefits of love among brothers, specifically in the army, as does Homer's Odyssey.

    I wonder what this study will mean for the coming election though?

    And, just for the sake of wondering, does anyone think Don't Ask Don't Tell could be repealed in the future because of studies like this?
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    Jul 08, 2008 1:41 PM GMT
    Scott, the ex-Marine who writes the "Bill in Exile" blog, posted about this, yesterday:

    http://www.billinexile.com/?p=4554

    Excerpt:

    "Every Marine in my platoon knew I was a fag and yet they guarded me the way a mother wolf protects her young.

    And I'm completely confident in saying that had we found ourselves in a situation where someone was attempting to railroad me out of the Corps for being a fag I'm sure I would not have been able to stop my boys from making a serious attempt on that person's life."
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    Jul 08, 2008 5:48 PM GMT
    DanteCA saidI don't need a study to tell me that.

    If someone is pointing a gun in your face, are you going to be thinking of the gay guy next to you? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Hot dang, the terrorist guy is cute... maybe I can take him home and show him the error of his ways. icon_wink.gif