Catholic Church Dumps Homeless Shelter in Sacramento Because Director Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion Rights

  • metta

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    Mar 08, 2012 7:00 PM GMT
    Catholic Church Dumps Homeless Shelter in Sacramento Because Director Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion Rights



    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/03/catholic-church-dumps-homeless-shelter-in-sacramento-because-director-supports-gay-marriage-abortion.html
  • funkymonkey

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    Mar 08, 2012 8:40 PM GMT
    lol, do you expect the Catholic Church to fund an organisation that supports abortion and gay marriage?
  • metta

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    Mar 08, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
    ^
    The organization has not mentioned either. Someone that works for the organization, a director, mentioned that she supports a women's right to choose and marriage equality.
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    Mar 08, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
    If you're going to critique someone's decision, at least put it into the terms they understand as why they're making that decision.

    The Catholic Church is dumping the shelter because the director supports killing babies and destroying marriage as God intended.
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    Mar 08, 2012 9:48 PM GMT
    Catholic priests are very good at raping children and destroying marriage. I don´t see what their beef is.


    They are simply hateful and use charity to get their absurd doctrine across.
  • mindblank

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    Mar 08, 2012 9:55 PM GMT
    The Catholic church does a lot of good, and abortion in my opinion is a kind of worrying thing.

    The Catholic church may not believe in gay love and only agree with gay sex and that it is evil but there are a lot worse than the Catholic church. You could do a lot worse than the Catholic church as it is today. It does a lot of good and influences a lot of good deeds, in my opinion.

    You get people acting like they're above humanity in and out of religions, it's human nature for some to act so. I sometimes wonder about people who join the bandwagon in church-hating, and I too am guilty of looking down on such people, because I think it to be quite an uninformed, unimaginative and cowardly hobby.
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    Mar 08, 2012 10:31 PM GMT
    mindblank saidThe Catholic church does a lot of good, and abortion in my opinion is a kind of worrying thing.

    The Catholic church may not believe in gay love and only agree with gay sex and that it is evil but there are a lot worse than the Catholic church. You could do a lot worse than the Catholic church as it is today. It does a lot of good and influences a lot of good deeds, in my opinion.

    You get people acting like they're above humanity in and out of religions, it's human nature for some to act so. I sometimes wonder about people who join the bandwagon in church-hating, and I too am guilty of looking down on such people, because I think it to be quite an uninformed, unimaginative and cowardly hobby.


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    Mar 09, 2012 1:11 AM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 09, 2012 1:18 AM GMT
    mindblank said
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Your post spoke VOLUMES!
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    Mar 09, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
    The Catholic Church's teachings are that being gay is not the sin, it's the actions. Of course, that is their beliefs and no one has any right to come down on them for it... they don't even teach people to be hateful about it but of course, idiots use the teachings in a negative way which makes the Church look bad overall.

    And abortion to me is really bad. I'm not a woman so I can't say anything about the emotional part of giving birth but I could never kill anything that will become a member of society. I'd strongly urge anyone that was contemplating abortion to give the child for adoption but that is my opinion.
  • mindblank

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    Mar 10, 2012 1:07 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    mindblank said
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Your post spoke VOLUMES!


    That's interesting. What part of my post spoke volumes to you?

    The problem is that my opinions are different from yours? I am originally from a country which is specifically anti-Catholic/Christianity. I'm not even religious but I see the hypocrisy in these attitudes.

    I could never jump on a band-wagon unless the reasons had been tried and tested to me and made complete sense because I know that despite an added element of safety in doing so, if it feels unjustified or illogical, it probably is. I could never blindly follow others' opinions, and I guess it's dangerous to have too many people following soundbites without engaging minds. It might be different if the Catholics were in a position of strength, but now they are very weak and most in my experience are good people and more caring than an average non-religious person.

    There are some gay people who fight against religions, and seem just as narrow-minded as a religious fundamentalist.
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    Mar 10, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    Of course the Catholic Church constantly supports organizations that are in favor of gay marriage. Or do you think the Vatican doesn't use Apple computers of Microsoft software?

    This is a political statement, part of a PR campaign that is trying to paint the "other side" as depriving the needy. The Catholic Church does good, so the thinking goes, but if it is painted into a corner by pro-gay, pro-abortion, or pro-masturbation forces, it will (sniff!) have to stop.

    They tried the tack where it hurt the most: Catholic adoption agencies have been getting out of the business of placing children where the agency was forced to stop discriminating against gay couples.

    Unfortunately, the PR campaign is not working as intended. Instead of creating support for the beleaguered Church, the dominant opinion seems to be that it is uncaring for the Church to put political statements above its universal mission of care.

    Jesus didn't say, "feed the hungry, unless the director of the institution that ultimately feeds them supports masturbation."

    And yes, the Catholic Church condemns masturbation with the exact same words it condemns homosexuality in its very own Catechism.
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    Mar 10, 2012 1:33 AM GMT
    mindblank saidThe Catholic church does a lot of good, and abortion in my opinion is a kind of worrying thing.


    If the "gay" gene is ever discovered and people start aborting fetuses just because they might grow up to be gay, I wonder how many gays will acknowledge the Church's wisdom on the abortion issue.

    And don't say it wouldn't happen. How many parents have said they would rather their kid be dead than gay? How many girls are aborted in China because of the one child policy there?

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    Mar 10, 2012 1:34 AM GMT
    More proof that the world would be a better place without religion.
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    Mar 10, 2012 2:47 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    mindblank said
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Your post spoke VOLUMES!


    Score! TM!
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    Mar 10, 2012 3:13 AM GMT
    mindblank said
    TropicalMark said
    mindblank said
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Your post spoke VOLUMES!


    That's interesting. What part of my post spoke volumes to you?

    The problem is that my opinions are different from yours? I am originally from a country which is specifically anti-Catholic/Christianity. I'm not even religious but I see the hypocrisy in these attitudes.


    I never cease to be amazed at how in the course of history the persecuted become the persecutors once they are in power. I wonder what the persecutions would look like if the militant, catty queen faction of the gay population were in power.

    Discuss among yourselves.
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    Mar 10, 2012 3:51 AM GMT
    mindblank said
    TropicalMark said
    mindblank said
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Your post spoke VOLUMES!


    That's interesting. What part of my post spoke volumes to you?

    The problem is that my opinions are different from yours? I am originally from a country which is specifically anti-Catholic/Christianity. I'm not even religious but I see the hypocrisy in these attitudes.

    And you're full of shit too.. your posts are so descriptive.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 10, 2012 4:00 AM GMT
    Just another example of "religious people" showing how unchristian
    they really are. Unfortunate.

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    Mar 10, 2012 5:40 AM GMT
    metta8 saidCatholic Church Dumps Homeless Shelter in Sacramento Because Director Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion Rights



    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/03/catholic-church-dumps-homeless-shelter-in-sacramento-because-director-supports-gay-marriage-abortion.html



    That's odd. They're supposed to instead try and bring her to understanding of their thinking, meekly and honestly, as Christ did.

    curious,

    -Doug
  • mindblank

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    Mar 10, 2012 7:53 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    mindblank said
    TropicalMark said
    mindblank said
    GonzoTheGreat said
    You live up to your name. Your mind is free of content.


    You don't even know me. icon_rolleyes.gif
    Your post spoke VOLUMES!


    That's interesting. What part of my post spoke volumes to you?

    The problem is that my opinions are different from yours? I am originally from a country which is specifically anti-Catholic/Christianity. I'm not even religious but I see the hypocrisy in these attitudes.

    And you're full of shit too.. your posts are so descriptive.


    I'm sorry if there was too much content for you to read, so I will keep this one short and repeat my question:

    That's interesting. What part of my post spoke volumes to you?

    Or is it OK to slag people without backing it up?

    I'd also like to ask what part equates most to shit for you. It would be cool to get a civil reply, but we'll see.
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    metta8 saidCatholic Church Dumps Homeless Shelter in Sacramento Because Director Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion Rights



    http://www.towleroad.com/2012/03/catholic-church-dumps-homeless-shelter-in-sacramento-because-director-supports-gay-marriage-abortion.html



    That's odd. They're supposed to instead try and bring her to understanding of their thinking, meekly and honestly, as Christ did.

    curious,

    -Doug


    Meekly like the Jesus who turned over the money changers tables in the temple and accused them of being thieves, or meekly like the Christ who called the Pharisees a brood of vipers, or meekly like the Christ who pointed out the woman the error of her being married to five different men, or... I think you get the picture.

    So many people are of the mistaken idea that Jesus was the meek, mild pot smoking hippie. No so. If he were he would have been left alone, never crucified, and dissapeared in the dustbin of history. But he wasn't. He upset the staus quo. He boldly challenged the ideas and beliefs of his day and for that he was murdered.

    I often wonder how many of those who think themselves broadminded, openminded, progressive, liberal, etc. wouldn't be screaming for his blood if he walk this earth today or better yet participated in these forums.

    I'm beginning to think I may have abandoned my Catholic faith a bit hastily. I've run across far more ignorant, bigoted, narrowminded thinkers on these forums than I ever did in the Catholic faith. (I'm not talking about you Doug)
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    Mar 10, 2012 10:05 PM GMT
    GonzoTheGreat saidCatholic priests are very good at raping children and destroying marriage. I don´t see what their beef is.


    They are simply hateful and use charity to get their absurd doctrine across.


    +1
  • Cutlass

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    Mar 18, 2012 4:38 AM GMT
    This woman's position on social and political issues has no relationship to helping the homeless. Shows how the benighted leaders of the r.c. church is more interested in forcing their dogma on others rather than helping those in need.
  • Vaughn

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    Mar 18, 2012 4:41 AM GMT
    Larkin saidIf you're going to critique someone's decision, at least put it into the terms they understand as why they're making that decision.

    The Catholic Church is dumping the shelter because the director supports killing babies and destroying marriage as God intended.


    Sounds like a great reason to hurt homeless people.
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    Mar 18, 2012 4:47 AM GMT
    "Someone that works for the organization, a director, mentioned that she supports a women's right to choose and marriage equality"


    Orwell could not have said it better.


    If a gay organization dumped an apostate employee you would verily and publicly wet yourself with glee. Try, just for once in your sorry and horrid life, to be honest.