Mitt Romney's National Finance Chair Frank VanderSloot is one of the most ruthlessly anti-gay businessmen in the nation

  • metta

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    Mar 09, 2012 6:28 PM GMT

    Tell Mitt Romney to fire his anti-LGBT National Finance Chair

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    Mar 09, 2012 7:51 PM GMT
    lol.

    Like the Mormon NOMmer would do that.
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    Mar 09, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
    Mitt Romney donated millions of dollars to the Mormon church - and the Mormon church then poured buckets of cash into getting PROP 8 passed in CA.

    Romney is every bit as anti-gay as Santorum - and has actually done more to try to deny gay Americans equal rights than any of the Repubs running for president.
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    Mar 09, 2012 10:41 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidMr. Romney and Mr. Obama both have the exact same view regarding gay marriage:





    LOL
    BULLSHIT

    Mitt Romney advocates AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION to make gay marriage illegal.
    Which would force all the states currently allowing gay marriage to stop allowing it - and prevent any other states from starting.

    Mitt Romney wants to enshrine anti-gay bigotry IN OUR CONSTITUTION and make gay Americans permanent second class citizens.

    President Obama DOES NOT.

    President Obama has also stated that he believes that DOMA is unconstitutional - AND the Obama administration has been fighting in the courts to have DOMA officially declared unconstitutional.

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    Mar 09, 2012 10:45 PM GMT
    RickRick91 saidPresident Obama has also stated that he believes that DOMA is unconstitutional - AND the Obama administration has been fighting in the courts to have DOMA officially declared unconstitutional.

    But don't forget, it's the Republicans in Washington who get credit for pushing to end DADT, and the Democrats who have pledged to reinstate it in the next Congress.

    NOT!
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    Mar 09, 2012 11:02 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    southbeach1500 saidMr. Romney and Mr. Obama both have the exact same view regarding gay marriage:





    LOL
    BULLSHIT

    Mitt Romney advocates AMENDING THE CONSTITUTION to make gay marriage illegal.
    Which would force all the states currently allowing gay marriage to stop allowing it - and prevent any other states from starting.

    Mitt Romney wants to enshrine anti-gay bigotry IN OUR CONSTITUTION and make gay Americans permanent second class citizens.

    President Obama DOES NOT.

    President Obama has also stated that he believes that DOMA is unconstitutional - AND the Obama administration has been fighting in the courts to have DOMA officially declared unconstitutional.



    A few Republicans here keep posting that video and trying to spin that Obama and the Republican candidates have the same view on same-sex marriage. I guess they are not listening to the rest of what Obama says after the "but" and what he has said elsewhere outside this interview. I agree, Obama does not go far enough in his support of marriage freedom, but he far from having the same views as the Republican candidates on the issue.
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    Mar 09, 2012 11:07 PM GMT
    Both the President and his GOP rivals are on the wrong side of freedom when it comes to gay marriage. Aside from some calculated pandering, Obama is lazy and indifferent on this issue. However, the GOP is far worse with their open hostility and active attempts to enslave and deny freedom to American citizens in same-sex relationships. If a single-issue voter is presented with a choice between the two on this issue, a disgruntled vote for Obama is a no-brainer.

    All of the above is obvious to anyone with open eyes, open ears, and an open mind.
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    Mar 09, 2012 11:39 PM GMT
    I find myself agreeing with Rick on this one.

    All the leading GOP candidates except for Ron Paul have signed the NOM pledge to work toward passing a constitutional amendment to roll back marriage rights in the states that do support SSM, and Obama, despite his vacillation between pandering for gay votes and indifference otherwise, has not expressed any intent to undo the positive changes made this far.

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    Mar 09, 2012 11:41 PM GMT
    @TA

    -However, the GOP is far worse with their open hostility and active attempts to enslave and deny freedom to American citizens in same-sex relationships. If a single-issue voter is presented with a choice between the two on this issue, a disgruntled vote for Obama is a no-brainer.


    Many of us are not single issue voters.

    Liberty is greater than just one issue.
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    Mar 10, 2012 1:06 AM GMT
    Like this is ANY fucking surprise?

    More like, "blind flash of the obvious". icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 10, 2012 11:43 AM GMT
    Why would Mitt Romney care? He will probably high five the guy for all the "good work" he's done.
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    Mar 10, 2012 4:26 PM GMT
    AlphaTrigger said@TA

    -However, the GOP is far worse with their open hostility and active attempts to enslave and deny freedom to American citizens in same-sex relationships. If a single-issue voter is presented with a choice between the two on this issue, a disgruntled vote for Obama is a no-brainer.


    Many of us are not single issue voters.

    Liberty is greater than just one issue.


    I agree but it seems the Republicans are becoming the master of taking away our Liberties. They raised the drinking age to 21 under Reagan, they overcrowd the prisons with minor drug offenders with their war on drugs. They want to repeal DADT which is essentially taking away the freedom of the gay men and woman who are fighting for freedom. And now they want to tell Doctors how to run their clinics. How much more invasive can government get than telling women they have to have a vaginal probe sonogram in order to have an abortion. About the only freedom I see they are good at protecting is the freedom to destroy our environment and the freedom to be a bigot.
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    Mar 11, 2012 2:19 PM GMT
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    AlphaTrigger said@TA

    -However, the GOP is far worse with their open hostility and active attempts to enslave and deny freedom to American citizens in same-sex relationships. If a single-issue voter is presented with a choice between the two on this issue, a disgruntled vote for Obama is a no-brainer.


    Many of us are not single issue voters.

    Liberty is greater than just one issue.


    I agree but it seems the Republicans are becoming the master of taking away our Liberties.


    Exactly.

    None of us are single issue voters.

    And we know that liberty is greater than one issue. That's what we keep trying to point out. Liberty at its most fundamental level includes the freedom to marry the consenting adult of your choice, something that allegedly freedom-loving gay Tea Partiers conveniently love to forget ignore.

    When are they going to stand up to their party's big government assault on freedom?
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    Mar 11, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
    TrojanAthlete saidWhen are they going to stand up to their party's big government assault on freedom?


    On this I'd agree with you in general.

    The TP appeal to liberty started first with the Ron Paulist libertarians (with whom I tend to identify on a lot, but not all, issues) but was very effectively co-opted by big money interests (the Koch Bros. in particular) and brought under the mainstream GOP tent in an effort to ensure that liberty values would not conflict with Establishment/Religionist ones.

    To that end, the TP is finding itself in conflict with the most pure value of liberty which would include the right of adults to marry as they see fit.

    IMHO, the federal and state governments concerns with marriage should only be to *certify* a marriage, rather than to issue *permits* or *licenses* for them: for marriage is a right and not a privilege to be dispensed at the caprice of government or a "majority".

    That said, we are constitutionally constrained to work within that framework to change the law of the land to reverse DOMA, and present the case that Marriage Equality is a right that deserves federally constitutionally protected recognition.

    See the wording in my post upthread for a "Marriage Equality Amendment".
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    Mar 11, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
    Edit: Looks like I had posted that wording in the other thread.

    Repeated here for reference:

    (A Proposal for a) Marriage Equality Amendment - "The right for two individuals to freely and mutually enter into marriage, having reached the age of eighteen years, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, or nationality, shall not be abridged. Such marriages shall be recognized by the many states without reservation or prejudice".