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    Mar 09, 2012 10:06 PM GMT
    ...but an interesting and accurate compilation of mostly post-WWII recollections.

    A friend just sent me this, one of those endlessly forwarded emails, but good:


    Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment

    The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

    The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

    She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day or didn't call it "green."

    Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So, they really were recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

    We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

    Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day.

    Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana . In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then.

    We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then.

    Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

    But the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
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    Mar 10, 2012 7:54 PM GMT
    Very good. Thanks for sharing it.
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    Mar 10, 2012 8:13 PM GMT
    Very good. Oh yes I recall it being green in my youth, that meant it was green in my parents. We had fare less waist back then, we were not yet a disposable security that WE are TODAY. When I was a kid cars and white goods were made to last; not anymore. Oh yest and we returned much of our packaging too as in bottles.

    I Apple green in the way it packages it's products that so many buy, then dispose of.
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    Mar 19, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
    Yeah. It particularly annoys me at the things being imposed on us here locally in the name of being "green" which do a lot less good than stuff I already practice and a lot less good than changing other more serious practices would, frequently with a politically correct rather than a scientific basis.
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    Mar 20, 2012 12:25 AM GMT
    Sulla said...but an interesting and accurate compilation of mostly post-WWII recollections.

    A friend just sent me this, one of those endlessly forwarded emails, but good:


    Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment

    The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."

    The clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

    She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day or didn't call it "green."

    Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So, they really were recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

    We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

    Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throw-away kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right. We didn't have the green thing back in our day.

    Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana . In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right. We didn't have the green thing back then.

    We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then.

    Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus, and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 2,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest pizza joint.

    But the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
    I'm quoting this whole OP because it's way beyond the truth - it's the solid fact that I wish people could learn today.

    However, giving credit where credit is due, the idea of "planned obsolescence" is what spawned this whole thing. If it weren't for planned obsolescence, we'd still be using reusable products, instead of disposable products.

    To put it into two words, everything boils down to corporate greed. If it weren't for that, everything from the 90's would still be usable today.
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    Mar 20, 2012 12:41 AM GMT
    We could go on for days, about going to the cottage in a car without seatbelts while Dad was tossing beer bottles over the roof of the car into the ditches as he drove. Kids wear helmets to go to the toilet now in case they slip.

    What does all of that have to do with being gay?
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    Mar 20, 2012 12:42 AM GMT
    Is there a TL;DR version. I read it, just didn't sink in... damn my diseased brainium!
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    Mar 20, 2012 12:58 AM GMT
    Good point. It looks like our generation & the future generation to come is becoming less & less "green" as the years progress, which is too bad cuz mother earth will soon bite us all in the ass some day icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 20, 2012 1:02 AM GMT

    I do agree with the message about consumerism and simplicity. I also don't think it's as black and white as this e-mail makes it out to be.




    Checking out at the store, the old cashier suggested to the younger woman that she should respect her elders, since the morals of America had gone down the pipes, all kids these days are insolent selfish little brats, and that the world had already gone to hell in a handbasket.

    "Back then, we kept women in their place, in the kitchen and at home with the children, ready to take care of their man with dinner ready and a kiss at the door. Men went to work, women took care of the kids, you got married. None of this women having a career stuff, or men being caretakers of the children. That ain't right.

    We ostracized, harassed, even lynched and killed other people for being of a different ethnicity, religious belief, political belief, or sexual orientation. If you were different, you'd better watch out.

    Back then, we suffered from smallpox, measles, polio, and all manner of diseases. We had no idea the devastation the HIV virus would cause in the gay community, the psychological damage that would absolutely destroy a generation. But you know, things were better back in my day!

    Back then, we only learned what we were taught in school, from a beat-up outdated textbook that had seen better days - if we were lucky. We didn't have a world of information at our fingertips, nor the capacity to share learning and network and independently publish books or create movies without the use of expensive equipment and the giant film and publishing industries."

    The girl responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation sees the past generations with rose colored glasses, and bemoans the current generation when you fail to realize the flaws of your past as well. By living in the past, you are effectively failing to also realize the benefits and accomplishments of the present day."

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    Mar 20, 2012 2:54 AM GMT
    Captain_Awesome saidIs there a TL;DR version. I read it, just didn't sink in... damn my diseased brainium!
    Speed reading - it's a skill that only smart people have, and intelligent people use on a case-by-case basis. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 20, 2012 2:59 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Captain_Awesome saidIs there a TL;DR version. I read it, just didn't sink in... damn my diseased brainium!
    Speed reading - it's a skill that only smart people have, and intelligent people use on a case-by-case basis. icon_razz.gif
    Not that, just unable to compute right now. I usually read by a pages of responses before posting. There's gotta be a logical reason for this wall to suddenly come up... Think it's the OP's main pic that's turning me off.