Why We MUST Have Child-Free Flights!

  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Mar 11, 2012 2:17 AM GMT
    This says it all! THANK YOU JET BLUE!!

    http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/toddler-tantrum-gets-family-booted-jetblue-flight-flying-184600037.html

    And we should take this a few steps further....There should be:

    1. All air carriers should devote a minimum of 10 percent of takeoff aircraft to be "off limits" to those under 16 years old. No one under 16 will be a ticketed traveler on those flights, and the scheduled times could be 6 AM to 9 AM and again from 4 PM to 6 PM. This would best accomodate business travelers who do not need to hear screaming infants throughout the cabin.

    2. If the "child free" flights run into opposition, then traveling families should have to pay a child surcharge of at least $150 on top of the regular child/junior fare. If families object to idea number 2, they will have to accept idea number one. Plain and simple.

    Guys, I live in Orlando and you can imagine how "wonderful" it is to fly home with an aircraft full of screaming, ill-mannered, sugar-overloaded rug rats and street urchins. On a flight from Denver to Orlando, children were running up and down the aisle of the aircraft, screaming "Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse..." From where I sat in the rear of the aircraft, I counted about 80 children under teen aged years.

    Sure, some people will say, "Fly in Business or First then!" Guess what? The little f-tards are there too!

    Also, it's no picnic departing Orlando with families either, and although it isn't "quite" like this....it's damn close:

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    Mar 11, 2012 3:39 AM GMT
    Here's an even better idea:

  • Buddha

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    Mar 11, 2012 8:50 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said

    1. All air carriers should devote a minimum of 10 percent of takeoff aircraft to be "off limits" to those under 16 years old. No one under 16 will be a ticketed traveler on those flights, and the scheduled times could be 6 AM to 9 AM and again from 4 PM to 6 PM. This would best accomodate business travelers who do not need to hear screaming infants throughout the cabin.




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  • AirLandia

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    Mar 11, 2012 4:32 PM GMT
    Haha when I heard about that I laughed.
  • mizu5

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    Mar 11, 2012 4:35 PM GMT
    people paying extra wouldn't annoy you any less.

    And why 16? what 15 year old can't behave themsevles on an airplane or 13 year old for that matter.

    I fly from vancouver to Toronto constantly, it's apart of life children on planes.
  • commoncoll

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    Mar 11, 2012 4:40 PM GMT
    Do they have such rules on trains or other public transportation as well? In fact, those who want to travel in child-free planes should have to pay extra seeing as it is an extra service they want from the airlines.
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    Mar 11, 2012 4:50 PM GMT
    Everyone under 16 is an infant now?

    Stupid

    Maybe you should buy some earbuds and stop your fucking bitching.
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    Mar 11, 2012 4:55 PM GMT
    Let's see. You're complaining about children flying to Orlando? You sound like townies in a university town complaining about the arrival of college students. Orlando owes its existence to those kids. Truth be told, we all depend on those kids for our own futures. Dude you need to lighten up and learn to enjoy the chaotic nature of children.

    About 5 years ago I had an ugly confrontation with a group of teenage boys who were honking their horn in our neighborhood. Not normally prone to temper tantrums, I really blew a gasket that time. When I retold the story to a neighbor, he asked, have you become old and bitter?
  • seventyfour

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    Mar 11, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidThis says it all! THANK YOU JET BLUE!!

    http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/toddler-tantrum-gets-family-booted-jetblue-flight-flying-184600037.html

    And we should take this a few steps further....There should be:

    1. All air carriers should devote a minimum of 10 percent of takeoff aircraft to be "off limits" to those under 16 years old. No one under 16 will be a ticketed traveler on those flights, and the scheduled times could be 6 AM to 9 AM and again from 4 PM to 6 PM. This would best accomodate business travelers who do not need to hear screaming infants throughout the cabin.

    2. If the "child free" flights run into opposition, then traveling families should have to pay a child surcharge of at least $150 on top of the regular child/junior fare. If families object to idea number 2, they will have to accept idea number one. Plain and simple.

    Guys, I live in Orlando and you can imagine how "wonderful" it is to fly home with an aircraft full of screaming, ill-mannered, sugar-overloaded rug rats and street urchins. On a flight from Denver to Orlando, children were running up and down the aisle of the aircraft, screaming "Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse..." From where I sat in the rear of the aircraft, I counted about 80 children under teen aged years.

    Sure, some people will say, "Fly in Business or First then!" Guess what? The little f-tards are there too!

    Also, it's no picnic departing Orlando with families either, and although it isn't "quite" like this....it's damn close:

    [url] [/url]



    I actually have to agree with you on this one. I flew from Dallas to Frankfurt with a kid sitting behind me, kicking my seat, regardless of how many times I had asked him, his mother, and the stewardess, he continued for 11 hours. The flight was full so there was no where for me to move too.

    There should also be a secluded section for people with bad B.O. and obese people!
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:00 PM GMT
    I'm sure all air carriers will get you children free flights, if you pay an additional fee that's high enough and find enough people to do so too. If you don't find enough people for that, you may be alone with that opinion.
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:04 PM GMT
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    Want some with that whine you got there?
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:06 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock said...{Whiney bitchey bitter old man grumbling about kids on airplanes}


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    Mar 11, 2012 5:09 PM GMT
    The OP could also load up on Xanax on long flights to make himself less odious to the poor travelers unfortunate enough to share a flight with him. icon_cool.gif
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidThis says it all! THANK YOU JET BLUE!!

    http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/toddler-tantrum-gets-family-booted-jetblue-flight-flying-184600037.html

    And we should take this a few steps further....There should be:

    1. All air carriers should devote a minimum of 10 percent of takeoff aircraft to be "off limits" to those under 16 years old. No one under 16 will be a ticketed traveler on those flights, and the scheduled times could be 6 AM to 9 AM and again from 4 PM to 6 PM. This would best accomodate business travelers who do not need to hear screaming infants throughout the cabin.

    Sure, some people will say, "Fly in Business or First then!" Guess what? The little f-tards are there too!




    Obviously, I understand and share your frustration, but the other poster had it right. If you don't want the noise, YOU should pay extra. You can do it now by either buying Bose's over the ear noise canceling headphones or flying in First. (A month ago I was flying from your hometown of Orlando and none of the little "fucktards" was in First.) If you don't want to or can't spend the money on First, just flirt with one of the stewards 'till he upgrades you (then dump him once you land)>
  • mizu5

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    Mar 11, 2012 5:12 PM GMT
    seventyfour said
    turtleneckjock saidThis says it all! THANK YOU JET BLUE!!

    http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/toddler-tantrum-gets-family-booted-jetblue-flight-flying-184600037.html

    And we should take this a few steps further....There should be:

    1. All air carriers should devote a minimum of 10 percent of takeoff aircraft to be "off limits" to those under 16 years old. No one under 16 will be a ticketed traveler on those flights, and the scheduled times could be 6 AM to 9 AM and again from 4 PM to 6 PM. This would best accomodate business travelers who do not need to hear screaming infants throughout the cabin.

    2. If the "child free" flights run into opposition, then traveling families should have to pay a child surcharge of at least $150 on top of the regular child/junior fare. If families object to idea number 2, they will have to accept idea number one. Plain and simple.

    Guys, I live in Orlando and you can imagine how "wonderful" it is to fly home with an aircraft full of screaming, ill-mannered, sugar-overloaded rug rats and street urchins. On a flight from Denver to Orlando, children were running up and down the aisle of the aircraft, screaming "Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse..." From where I sat in the rear of the aircraft, I counted about 80 children under teen aged years.

    Sure, some people will say, "Fly in Business or First then!" Guess what? The little f-tards are there too!

    Also, it's no picnic departing Orlando with families either, and although it isn't "quite" like this....it's damn close:

    [url] [/url]



    I actually have to agree with you on this one. I flew from Dallas to Frankfurt with a kid sitting behind me, kicking my seat, regardless of how many times I had asked him, his mother, and the stewardess, he continued for 11 hours. The flight was full so there was no where for me to move too.

    There should also be a secluded sect ion for people with bad B.O. and obese people!
    LOLOLOL good trolling!
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:13 PM GMT
    mizu5 saidpeople paying extra wouldn't annoy you any less.

    And why 16? what 15 year old can't behave themsevles on an airplane or 13 year old for that matter.

    I fly from vancouver to Toronto constantly, it's apart of life children on planes.



    While I'm on the fence about the OP's topic. The question isn't whether they can behave or whether they do.

    I can tell you - even in the small town I live in - if you go to Wal-Mart - or any store that's open after dark... Say around 10:00 or 11:00 pm. - Which I rarely do, but I was sick and needed some cough syrup one night.

    There were literally - teen age kids running amok throughout the store aisles. They are screaming and behaving worse than 3 year olds.

    The store is not allowed to do anything because said kids threaten to sue the store for hurting them or other things.

    Or - while driving down the street - a group of teen-age kids walking in a line down the middle of the road, just chatting. They do not bother to get out of the road and just turn around and flip me off...

    There is a fundamental lack of respect. I am not saying this is all kids, but it seems to be getting worse, so yes, if there were going to be an adult only flying schedule, I think it would need to be at least 18 and older.

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    Mar 11, 2012 5:16 PM GMT
    My recommendation, noise cancelling head phones, recently flew to Switzerland and I'm not sure I'll be able to fly again without them:

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  • mizu5

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    Mar 11, 2012 5:20 PM GMT
    onaquest said
    mizu5 saidpeople paying extra wouldn't annoy you any less.

    And why 16? what 15 year old can't behave themsevles on an airplane or 13 year old for that matter.

    I fly from vancouver to Toronto constantly, it's apart of life children on planes.



    While I'm on the fence about the OP's topic. The question isn't whether they can behave or whether they do.

    I can tell you - even in the small town I live in - if you go to Wal-Mart - or any store that's open after dark... Say around 10:00 or 11:00 pm. - Which I rarely do, but I was sick and needed some cough syrup one night.

    There were literally - teen age kids running amok throughout the store aisles. They are screaming and behaving worse than 3 year olds.

    The store is not allowed to do anything because said kids threaten to sue the store for hurting them or other things.

    Or - while driving down the street - a group of teen-age kids walking in a line down the middle of the road, just chatting. They do not bother to get out of the road and just turn around and flip me off...

    There is a fundamental lack of respect. I am not saying this is all kids, but it seems to be getting worse, so yes, if there were going to be an adult only flying schedule, I think it would need to be at least 18 and older.

    I dont think you can compare kids in a small town at walmart for fun, or walking down the street out of boredom, to being a on a plane. when I was 16 i used to rave and get druunk and go wandering around ym town and went to walmart on friday ngiht bored and drunk. But i have enver been rude on a plane. plus you see a lot mroe gus between 17-24 being douchhebags than 15 year olds.
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
    Wow harsh comments here, come on guys I know everyone here gets annoyed by the screaming baby especially on a plane. No one likes that sound even parents haha. In this case the child would not stay seated and that is a safety risk because the child could get hurt, what if the plane suddenly turned hard when taking off?

    I have a huge fear of flying, always have had a fear even as a kid unless I was in the cockpit...hmmmm I wonder...anyway the point of this is my parents drugged the hell out of me to keep me from screaming and crying. There are too many parents today that just spoil their kids rotten and don't do anything to discipline them.

    My last flight this, probably a two year old, would not stop screaming and crying because his parents turned off his iPad...yes his iPad his dad said to the wife "I told you not to buy that for him." Take off and landing the kid was screaming so loud that some of the infants on the plane started crying. His mom did nothing not so much as a shhhh just sat there and plugged her earphones in...yea I could hear the kid over MY ear phones since I was in the seat behind.

    With all the flights during the day I think when booking there should be the option of one morning, one mid-day, and one evening flight that is designated child free so no one under 6 or 8, this probably would only work with major flight routes. This way it doesn't cost anymore money for anyone and leaves the rest of the flights for families.

    It's unfair to the majority of passengers to require them to pay more for other people's irresponsibility to control their kids either with money or a horrible flight.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Mar 11, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    JPtheBITCH saidJesus. of all the whining you ordinarily do, this has to be the most self-centered and petulant.

    Wow.


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    onaquest said
    mizu5 saidpeople paying extra wouldn't annoy you any less.

    And why 16? what 15 year old can't behave themsevles on an airplane or 13 year old for that matter.

    I fly from vancouver to Toronto constantly, it's apart of life children on planes.



    While I'm on the fence about the OP's topic. The question isn't whether they can behave or whether they do.

    I can tell you - even in the small town I live in - if you go to Wal-Mart - or any store that's open after dark... Say around 10:00 or 11:00 pm. - Which I rarely do, but I was sick and needed some cough syrup one night.

    There were literally - teen age kids running amok throughout the store aisles. They are screaming and behaving worse than 3 year olds.

    The store is not allowed to do anything because said kids threaten to sue the store for hurting them or other things.

    Or - while driving down the street - a group of teen-age kids walking in a line down the middle of the road, just chatting. They do not bother to get out of the road and just turn around and flip me off...

    There is a fundamental lack of respect. I am not saying this is all kids, but it seems to be getting worse, so yes, if there were going to be an adult only flying schedule, I think it would need to be at least 18 and older.



    That is descriminatory to the ones that are capable of behaving themselves, and a company is not going to risk that - ive been flying since I was very little and have never been disruptive. I stick by my argument that if some grouchy person has a problem with noise, they can pop a Xanax an put on some noise canceling headphones.
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:27 PM GMT
    Nimitz saidMy recommendation, noise cancelling head phones, recently flew to Switzerland and I'm not sure I'll be able to fly again without them:
    +1

    But I'm a Bose freak...love their sound quality and they finally "got it right" with the noise cancelling (earlier models sucked). I got this a few weeks ago and fell in love.


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    Edit: I even use them when vacuuming the carpet, and can barely hear the vacuum cleaner.
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:30 PM GMT
    I have to add my vote & sympathy to the OP. I also fly a lot, and screaming kids and (the worst! of all) kids kicking the back of your seat make something already unpleasant into an unendurable trial. I understand kids don't know better, but it seems fewer & fewer parents even try to discipline their kids and help them to understand there is a right and wrong way to behave in public. It's plain courtesy and decency to care about other peoples' comfort.
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:31 PM GMT
    UofMGrad said my parents drugged the hell out of me to keep me from screaming and crying. There are too many parents today that just spoil their kids rotten and don't do anything to discipline them.

    Wait, are you saying they should drug their kids too?
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    Mar 11, 2012 5:37 PM GMT
    It's not the children that are the problem, it's the parents usually. Sure you'll get the child who screams when take off or landings hurt the ears but the kicking seats and all is a direct reflection on the parent's inability to parent their child.

    I recall taking my son on a flight and the guy next to us just rolling his eyes when we sat down. I told him that he'll be good. My son was content, still and hardly said a word the entire flight across country. I think the guy was super surprised. I've seen some real assholes on flights, funny thing is, they were grown adults! Maybe they should be banned.

    People need to take a chill pill and understand that kids are a lot of work and usually, the parents are beside themselves when their kids are not quiet. We all get frustrated but again, parents are usually the problem, not the kids.