Getting into shape has been more trouble than it's worth

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    Mar 11, 2012 3:38 AM GMT
    I've seen results from working out (I gained 15 pounds in 4 months), but working out has been more trouble than it's worth. I developed a stroke two weeks ago (the doctor said that heavy lifting with high blood pressure might have contributed to it) and I lost almost ten pounds since my stroke. I also have to abstain from lifting heavy for at least a month so I'm obviously going to lose more of my gains. I honestly don't know what to do anymore and I'm starting to question if it's worth it. It seems like I'm just built to have a marathon runner build and my body is working against me. It's seems like I take 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:13 PM GMT
    Be the healthiest you can be within the constraints of your physiology.

    For example: I don't run because my mother has always had joint problems and arthritis. 1/2 of my genetics are from my mother, so why go against the odds? So, I do low impact cardio instead.
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:22 PM GMT
    I agree with GAMrican.

    I don't do high impact cardio - I use the elliptical because I have naturally flat feet and I cannot run either.

    Also - in the gym with my trainer - we have found that I have weak wrists. They are getting stronger, but we have to find alternate moves sometimes.

    Maybe you could get some advice from a trainer on a program that could work with you and your abilities/limitations.

    Best of luck.
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:25 PM GMT
    joe122 saidI've seen results from working out (I gained 15 pounds in 4 months), but working out has been more trouble than it's worth. I developed a stroke two weeks ago (the doctor said that heavy lifting with high blood pressure might have contributed to it) and I lost almost ten pounds since my stroke. I also have to abstain from lifting heavy for at least a month so I'm obviously going to lose more of my gains. I honestly don't know what to do anymore and I'm starting to question if it's worth it. It seems like I'm just built to have a marathon runner build and my body is working against me. It's seems like I take 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.

    Get another opinion. Dont let such a serious diagnosis and all its implications stand on one dr's opinion.
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:27 PM GMT
    I'm sorry to hear about your stroke. That is a major setback and health concern.

    Working out is worthwhile. As GAMRican has said, you need to work within the limits of your physiological conditions. If you so so, you will be the healthiest person that you can be. If you do not, you will suffer from a shorter, less-healthy lifetime.

    In your situation, I would seek professional guidance as you embark on reintroducing fitness routines. That means your doctor, and a well-qualified trainer is a good idea. I'm not sure as to the differences in qualifications; you may want to seek one through a referral from an occupational therapist or physiotherapist.
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:29 PM GMT
    Everyone's body has a "preferred" size. Nobody ever likes that size, except for most everyone else. Do the best you're able to do with reason, and let your body adjust as needed.

    Also, workout gently (lighter weights, higher reps). Don't be a total pussy about it, but don't try your 1rm every day. Save that for special occasions, like when you're showing off for some hot stud who wants to go to the sauna and relax for a bit.

    Focus on your food, too. What you eat has a lot to do with how your body adjusts its size (both muscle and fat).
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:44 PM GMT
    intensity69 saidI'm sorry to hear about your stroke. That is a major setback and health concern.

    Working out is worthwhile. As GAMRican has said, you need to work within the limits of your physiological conditions. If you so so, you will be the healthiest person that you can be. If you do not, you will suffer from a shorter, less-healthy lifetime.

    In your situation, I would seek professional guidance as you embark on reintroducing fitness routines. That means your doctor, and a well-qualified trainer is a good idea. I'm not sure as to the differences in qualifications; you may want to seek one through a referral from an occupational therapist or physiotherapist.

    I'm seeing a PT and an OT right now and they never tell me what I can and can't do. They always tell me to listen to the cardiologist and the neurologist and both of them agree that I shouldn't be doing anything right except light walking for the next 3 months. Looks like I just have to be patient for now icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:54 PM GMT
    joe122 said
    I'm seeing a PT and an OT right now and they never tell me what I can and can't do. They always tell me to listen to the cardiologist and the neurologist and both of them agree that I shouldn't be doing anything right except light walking for the next 3 months. Looks like I just have to be patient for now icon_confused.gif
    I hope PT goes well for you, and you get back to being a happy guy. I've had friends go through PT and others who are PT themselves. It's hard, but keep strong and positive about yourself. You ARE your BEST asset!
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    Mar 24, 2012 11:58 PM GMT
    What's the point so these shallow fake guys on here will respond to you and act like they are actually interested in you when all they are really after is your body and they think that is all that matter. In the end you each have to keep your body in shape since your "partner" will leave you once you let it go since you are no longer the image he was after and embarrassed to have someone who is not as perfect as him around. Just stay healthy and active, find a guy who like you for you and sees the body as an extra bonus but will stick by you through thick and thin.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    ^^^^ I don't have a partner. My response was sincere. What makes you think that everyone here is just trying to get into the OP's pants? I'm sure that even with his health concerns he is in better shape than I am. So your comment is ridiculous and unfounded.

    Maybe your projecting your own desires on everyone else?

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    Mar 25, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
    Was not directed at the OP but for the OP telling him not to worry about it.

    Also I will never be in the shape that all these shallow men on here require for you to even message them so not really projecting anything.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
    I haven't heard of weight lifting causing strokes but from my understanding of strokes, if you're pre-disposed to them there are many triggers that can lead to them. Sorry you've had a bad experience working out but I'm sure even your doctor will tell you that exercise is part of a healthy lifestyle. If heavy weights caused problems you can still get a great physique from doing body weight exercises—gymnasts do!
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:06 AM GMT
    Well, I happen to know that 1) I will never be in that shape either and 2) the ones that have posted in this thread so far are not the ones that you are referring to. All of the guys posting here so far happen to be very nice people.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:10 AM GMT
    TheCelticFury saidWhat's the point so these shallow fake guys on here will respond to you and act like they are actually interested in you when all they are really after is your body and they think that is all that matter. In the end you each have to keep your body in shape since your "partner" will leave you once you let it go since you are no longer the image he was after and embarrassed to have someone who is not as perfect as him around. Just stay healthy and active, find a guy who like you for you and sees the body as an extra bonus but will stick by you through thick and thin.


    Ummmm... what was posted here to make you think that, exactly?

    I am confuzzled. icon_confused.gif

    Not after the OP's body... I am dating an amazing guy. Neither of us are perfect, and that imperfection isn't going to change how we feel about each other.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:14 AM GMT
    He seems upset that he is not getting the build he wants and will only have a runners build, I'm saying there is nothing wrong with that and he should not be worried about not having a built look.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    TheCelticFury saidHe seems upset that he is not getting the build he wants and will only have a runners build, I'm saying there is nothing wrong with that and he should not be worried about not having a built look.


    But that's not what you said. Instead you starting attacking people's motives unnecessarily. There's a big difference in what you just typed and what is written above.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:16 AM GMT
    The don't and quit bitching.

    Kthxbai
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:22 AM GMT
    ^ Exactly
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    TheCelticFury is a troll. Do you breathe properly when you lift? I've read if you hold your breath while lifting it can cause a stroke.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:25 AM GMT
    From FlypinTraps profile: "A guy that likes to workout and has a nice body." see what I mean, that's the only type of guy he likes.

    But done now, goodnight all.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    TheCelticFury saidFrom FlypinTraps profile: "A guy that likes to workout and has a nice body." see what I mean, that's the only type of guy he likes.

    But done now, goodnight all.


    So you're going to judge everyone based on one person's profile comment?

    Sad.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:27 AM GMT
    TheCelticFury saidFrom FlypinTraps profile: "A guy that likes to workout and has a nice body." see what I mean, that's the only type of guy he likes.

    But done now, goodnight all.


    "Physically prefer guys my size or bigger muscle wise, this is not hard to do. Height does not matter, just know if you are shorter then me I tend to always be the big spoon. Body hair, smooth to bearish is fine just keep it clean and neat. Facial hair is cool too just no mustache (I really hate them for some reason). Age does not matter. Don't care what color you skin is, minus orange from a tanning bed. If you think I sound shallow keep moving since we will not be a match anyways."


    Like I said, troll.
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    Mar 25, 2012 12:51 AM GMT
    More than likely, your high blood pressure was the major contributor to your unfortunate stroke. Had you not done the heaving lifting, had you not gotten your high blood pressure under control, you probably would have still had a stroke, just later in life. I am guessing by the way you sound that it was not a very serious stroke and you are regaining much if not all of your functions back? I work daily with individuals who have had strokes and multiple other acquired and traumatic brain injuries who do not get much back. The best thing you can do is to gain control of your blood pressure. When your doctor says you can work out again and utilize weights, focus on developing your body definition and maintaining your body fat % to around 10-12. You should be able to return to lifting again and you will see definition and even a size increase. Be realistic with what you can achieve and remember your health is far more important than building big muscles.
    Something to think about, after incurring your first brain injury (and a stroke is a brain injury) your risk for your second is 3 times greater. After your second, the risk jumps up to 8 times greater. This is not meant to scare or discourage you, it is being said to help you think about putting things into perspective. Exercise is beneficial, helpful, and necessary if it is done right.
    My best to you for a speedy recovery and continued good health.
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    Mar 25, 2012 2:08 AM GMT
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    intensity69 saidI'm sorry to hear about your stroke. That is a major setback and health concern.

    Working out is worthwhile. As GAMRican has said, you need to work within the limits of your physiological conditions. If you so so, you will be the healthiest person that you can be. If you do not, you will suffer from a shorter, less-healthy lifetime.

    In your situation, I would seek professional guidance as you embark on reintroducing fitness routines. That means your doctor, and a well-qualified trainer is a good idea. I'm not sure as to the differences in qualifications; you may want to seek one through a referral from an occupational therapist or physiotherapist.

    I'm seeing a PT and an OT right now and they never tell me what I can and can't do. They always tell me to listen to the cardiologist and the neurologist and both of them agree that I shouldn't be doing anything right except light walking for the next 3 months. Looks like I just have to be patient for now icon_confused.gif


    Yes, listen to your cardiologist and neurologist. And, yes, sometimes patience is best. Allow your body to heal despite what your gut or anybody else tells you to do.
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    Mar 25, 2012 5:35 AM GMT
    fagneticspermeability saidOh my gosh! You're only twenty-three and you had a stroke!?

    That's awful. icon_sad.gif

    Hang in there, buddy. There must be something else going on. A healthy barely legal male should not be having a stroke simply from exercise (even though you have high blood pressure). Maybe you were overtraining or there's some underlying and undiagnosed concern? That just doesn't typically happen.


    I had a dissection (a tear in my artery). I think it was caused by neck cracking (I used to do this about 20x a day) combined with straining from weight training.
    http://stroke.about.com/od/causesofstroke/a/Dissection.htm
    It wasn't caused by plaque or problems with my diet.