Elliptical VS Treadmill VS Stationary bike....

  • HPgeek934

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    Mar 12, 2012 11:16 PM GMT
    Which is better for overall cardio/fat burning? I always used to use the treadmill because I didn't think the elliptical worked as well, but its starting to pay a toll on my back and neck from the running impact. (I have a bad neck)

    Should I pick one of the three machines and stick with it? Should I alternate one a workout? Any input would be great. I briefed the forums but didn't exactly find the answers I was looking for.

    Thanks in advance guys!
  • jerseyguy

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    Mar 13, 2012 12:13 AM GMT
    lately, i've been using a combination. i do 10-15 minutes on the stairmaster and elliptical and then maybe 20-25 minutes on the treadmill. i have back issues but so far so good. no problems at all.
  • gcoastmark

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    Mar 13, 2012 12:19 AM GMT
    If you want to get the most from the ecliptical, keep your hips steady - think of them as pivot points only not transferring your weight from side to side - moving only your legs on the gliders and work your way up to hands free. You won't need a lot of resistance to get a great work out. Give that a try!
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    Mar 13, 2012 12:20 AM GMT
    The key is the incline and resistance levels. All three can be really effective if you increase and alternate the incline/resistance.
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    Mar 13, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    I use all three plus a rowing machine. With the treadmill, I started using an incline treadmill that goes up to 40 degrees. Even at 20 to 25 degrees, you can get an excellent cardio workout going much slower with less impact. Depending on your speed and the degree of incline, you need to pay attention to any stresses, especially Achilles, but right now I find it excellent.
  • HPgeek934

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    Mar 13, 2012 12:23 AM GMT
    sounds good guys! i think ill try alternating them til I get into a groove that works
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    Mar 13, 2012 1:47 AM GMT
    archon saidtry hanging from a rope, it always works, but make sure the rope is tied around your neckicon_lol.gif


    are you honestly serious with that comment? You're a sick bastard and should be ashamed of yourself!
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    Mar 13, 2012 1:52 AM GMT
    HPgeek934 said
    archon saidtry hanging from a rope, it always works, but make sure the rope is tied around your neckicon_lol.gif


    are you honestly serious with that comment? You're a sick bastard and should be ashamed of yourself!


    ((^_^)) no sense of humor, and your dry! i was jokingicon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 13, 2012 6:56 AM GMT
    HPgeek934 saidWhich is better for overall cardio/fat burning? I always used to use the treadmill because I didn't think the elliptical worked as well, but its starting to pay a toll on my back and neck from the running impact. (I have a bad neck)

    Should I pick one of the three machines and stick with it? Should I alternate one a workout? Any input would be great. I briefed the forums but didn't exactly find the answers I was looking for.

    Thanks in advance guys!


    I used to try to run 15 minute miles on the treadmill. Funny thing is I couldn't do it at an incline and I wasn't losing weight like I wanted to.

    But, I got great results by slowing to 20 minutes per mile at maximum incline and doing three miles at a time. It also helped when I added leg/glute strength so I can push that calorie guess display to 800 and above.

    You may have to find a 24hr fit Super Sport or a higher-end gym. But, the Precor AMT Adaptive Motion Trainers are really cool and zero impact. These guys can cost $6,000-$8,000, so they aren't easy to find. But, I think I can push myself harder on those than anything else.
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    Mar 13, 2012 7:02 AM GMT
    In your case, I'd probably go for the elliptical. I'm basing this off of personal experience. I have no expertise. The treadmill is great, but it can be too high-impact for some people. The elliptical has a smooth motion that I don't think will bother you too much. (You're better off asking a professional.) I find that it's much harder to get my heart rate into my optimal zone on a stationary bike.
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    Mar 13, 2012 12:28 PM GMT
    archon said
    HPgeek934 said
    archon saidtry hanging from a rope, it always works, but make sure the rope is tied around your neckicon_lol.gif


    are you honestly serious with that comment? You're a sick bastard and should be ashamed of yourself!


    ((^_^)) no sense of humor, and your dry! i was jokingicon_rolleyes.gif


    Suicide jokes are never funny. Totally disgusting.

    To the other guys that actually answered my question, thank you!
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    Mar 13, 2012 2:44 PM GMT
    HPgeek934 said
    archon said
    HPgeek934 said
    archon saidtry hanging from a rope, it always works, but make sure the rope is tied around your neckicon_lol.gif


    are you honestly serious with that comment? You're a sick bastard and should be ashamed of yourself!


    ((^_^)) no sense of humor, and your dry! i was jokingicon_rolleyes.gif


    Suicide jokes are never funny. Totally disgusting.

    To the other guys that actually answered my question, thank you!


    the only disgusting thing here is your seriousness and taking things people say to the extreme. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 13, 2012 2:52 PM GMT
    When I researched it, it seemed that elliptical and running were pretty much neck and neck for total calorie burn - assuming you were using incline/resistance relatively equally. Elliptical had the benefit though of being low impact and I found I enjoyed it more but I think really between the 2 you're safe burning lots of calories so long as you're putting in the maximum effort. Its just about preference.

    As for the bike, if I recall it doesn't burn quite as many but its still good. I could cycle endlessly on my real bike, but 10 minutes on a stationary bike and I want to shoot myself in the face. I can't stand them but again, not terrible for calorie burn...variety is key if you're getting bored imo. You won't burn many calories if you get so bored you don't make maximum effort. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 13, 2012 2:57 PM GMT
    I usually trade off on either one; though I prefer a step machine myself.
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    Mar 13, 2012 2:58 PM GMT
    To the O.P............why not mix it up and incorporate all three in your routine? As a guy who has been working out since the 70's - and who benefited from the advice of some terrific coaches - I'd suggest alternating with all three. Just be careful and if in doubt, check with your doc. (about your neck).

    As for the guy with the suicide "jokes" ..........well some things are funny, and some things are not. The key is to learn the difference.
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    Mar 13, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    HPgeek934 saidWhich is better for overall cardio/fat burning?
    Cardio isn't the most efficient for fat burning. A proper weight training with a good diet plan will get you better results. Simply doing cardio and reducing calories to burn fat will only turn you into a smaller version of your current self.

    Then again depends on what you goal is.
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    Mar 13, 2012 4:33 PM GMT
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    ...the Precor AMT Adaptive Motion Trainers are really cool and zero impact. These guys can cost $6,000-$8,000, so they aren't easy to find. But, I think I can push myself harder on those than anything else.

    I went wild for this Precor elliptical when I discovered it last year. Then, I'd been advised several months before to avoid impact cardio by my orthopedist after I fractured my cuboid bone in my foot because the bone could literally wear over time, but I also just read that one shouldn't limit their cardio to ellipticals and bikes because they do nothing to maintain bone strength. My primary cardio for several months was swimming twice weekly, followed by this elliptical twice weekly, and treadmill walking on a flexdeck incline once a week just to cover all the bases. However, these past few months I was advised (and research on endomorph training supported this) that I should skip ALL cardio and focus on increasing muscle mass by lifting. This is because muscle mass burns fat, and cardio unless performed several hours after lifting (who has time for that?) works in opposition to lifting and eats into muscle gains. I was skeptical about this being a fat burning option for me since I have several health issues which preclude my ability to lift with high intensity but, since I was already very cardiovascularly fit from all that cardio training, decided to up my lifting from 4 to 6 days per week and I eliminated all cardio except for ten minutes as preworkout warmup. The result? I'm now leaner and more muscular than ever. As my strength increases I plan to reintegrate cardio to see how that goes.
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    Mar 13, 2012 5:11 PM GMT
    eagermuscle said However, these past few months I was advised (and research on endomorph training supported this) that I should skip ALL cardio and focus on increasing muscle mass by lifting.
    *thumbs up*

    Weight training does include an aerobic component to assist fat burning in addition to help preserve/build muscle and increase bone density.

    Howeverrrrrrrrr if one still instants on doing cardio, then read this. She is a mod on a training forum that I'm on and I respect her opinion.

    How to do Cardio if you MUST!
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    Mar 13, 2012 5:25 PM GMT
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    How to do Cardio if you MUST!

    Great link. Reminds me of why I hate cardio - it's not the boredom but for me at least the setbacks I'd suffer from injuring myself with all that hopping around would far outweigh any benefit. That's why I like sticking to lifting and steady state swimming or elliptical (with a touch of controlled HIIT) or incline flexdeck treadmill steady state walking at 2.8-3.2, which I've noticed burns more calories than the sprinter on the flat treadmill next to me.
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    Mar 13, 2012 5:32 PM GMT
    I would suggest all of them. Lets say you do cardio on Mon, Wed, Fri.....run on the treadmill on one day, bike the next, and elliptical on the last, or how ever you want to do it. Each one works different muscles.

    A tip for running on the treadmill. When you use a treadmill without an incline its like running downhill the whole time. Bump the incline up to 0.5% or 1% grade and that will be more like running on flat in reality. It will be easier on your knees, back and neck.

    I hate running on the treadmill, but it is a necessary evil during the cold and snowy winter months. Really pay attention to your stride length, gait and foot strike when running on the treadmill. Because there is a belt moving underneath you, it changes all of these. It tends to "grab" your foot as you strike and lengthens stride. This can easily lead to knee and hip flexor injuries.

    Remember, slight incline and possibly a slower pace to help combat these and you should be good!!
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    Mar 14, 2012 3:01 AM GMT
    I think it's all about what you enjoy that you will stick with.

    I don't like the impact of the treadmill, but I do like the elliptical and can go much longer without the impact.
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    Mar 14, 2012 3:04 AM GMT
    If you keep doing things the same way your body will get more efficient at them and -- if calorie burn is your goal -- you will have to work harder for the same result.

    Keep your system guessing, and look into interval training... a lot of people believe it is helpful for both fat loss and endurance.
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    Mar 14, 2012 3:40 PM GMT
    Why not give this a go it is pretty hard going.
    Did the challenge last year (Club Xtreme my time was 19.30 mins)

    http://www.worldgymchallenge.com/WGC-TheChallengesUpdated.asp

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    Mar 14, 2012 3:59 PM GMT
    I do a mix, I tend toward the arctrainer at 100 resistance

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    or running 5 or 6 miles outside. I think with all things in life its about having a blend and not necessarily one or the other.


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    Mar 14, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
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    Seriously, guys? The elliptical machine is nowhere near running or high-intensity cycling. If running is hurting you, learn a proper stride.