the correlation and connection between power, hypertrophy and hgh ...? critique.

  • Artesin

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    Mar 13, 2012 12:07 AM GMT
    edited for revised and more complete info.

    as an ectomorph im always looking t increase my strength and size. In order to do so a greater understanding of triggering hgh and testostorone while maintaining the link between power and hypertrophy and the correlation of varying caloric needs. im trying to determine if i have the correlation between all these variables correct so a comprehensive plan can be built and i can hope to slightly overcome genetics.

    its cited that hgh follows lactic induced burn which signifies stress on the target muscle. As an ectomorph the higher cardiac reaction from hypertrophic lifting can seem like a major enemy. I assume that a higher calorie count above that of the necessary build level will allow me to stay anabolic despite higher volume and shorter rests?

    As size determines the capacity for strength is it wise to do a power/ hypertrophy split plan as featured by Layne Norton or to split it up into bulking and cutting phases? Is it right to assume that you can cut while in a power phase or does it need to split up into bulk->power->cut? As i would assume that power phases dont require as many calories as a hypertrophy routine. say 3400-4k in a build and 2400-2900 in power? or is that wrong?

    how would p90x factor into this assessment? Basically if you get the necessary calories then can any routine where you get lactic burn increase size?

    im a vegetarian and have lean genetics so most books and sights dont provide complete info except for maybe the hard gaining sites. So if my reasoning seems complete or has flaws please let me know, it would really help out

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    Mar 13, 2012 4:54 PM GMT
    Artesin said Its sited that the presence of the burn from lactic acid means hgh is not far behind. With that, even if you have a fast metabolism is it better to further pad the calorie count and take less time between sets, keeping an elevated heart rate than it is between reps? i would normally wait on power days for a while longer, but the burn is never really present. Which brings me to wonder if strength gains can be made without it. As strength is determined by muscular capacity.. the more size, the more capacity for strength. Do i have that right?

    The thread title - "strength capacity, size and hgh release" suggests a complicated post which might read all over the map and to me at least it's reminiscent of BelieverLens/Vividcrop/HomingDevice/Creasehem's artfully concocted thread confections masquerading as an LSAT question. Can you clarify? It seems ultimately like you're asking how to maximize concurrent gains in size, strength and cardiovascular fitness despite a high metabolism by suggesting that while strength-increasing hgh (as well as increases in size) is triggered by lactic acid burn, whether you can still gain strength without training to feel that burn by taking shorter rests between sets to keep your heart rate continuously elevated.
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    Mar 13, 2012 9:36 PM GMT
    Whatever the title implies im sorry that you lost two seconds clicking on the link icon_rolleyes.gif . Either way i only had a minute to drum up the last topic, this one should flow a bit better
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    Mar 13, 2012 9:45 PM GMT

    In my opinion, you're WAAAAY overthinking things.

    -Eat lean foods, several small meals throughout the day.

    -Consume more calories than you burn if you're trying to gain.

    -Make sure your protein intake is high (.75 grams per pound of body weight with no more than 25g at a time).

    -Lift enough weight that you max out between 6-10 reps with each set.

    -Use cardio just to keep your heart healthy.

    Unless you're studying to become a physical trainer, your overthinking the science behind it all. But that's just my opinion.

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    Mar 14, 2012 12:40 AM GMT
    Artesin saidWhatever the title implies im sorry that you lost two seconds clicking on the link icon_rolleyes.gif .

    Not a way to treat people trying to help who obviously spent way more time than two seconds trying to decipher and answer your thread.