Gay and Race relations amongst our community.

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    Mar 14, 2012 9:57 PM GMT
    My name is Tyler T, I'm a masters student working on wrapping up my thesis on race within our community. I've been to clubs and other sites to see how this community reacts to race. I'm recently out and a white friend of mines mentioned how he likes black men but they don't like him. Me being born to an African American mother and Italian father decided to see how would the Caucasian guys on a site like this react to me since I'm black by public standards because of color. I've been on here two weeks and I've never been more disappointed to be in the gay community. I have taken my time to message 250 white males on here. I messaged them with simple messages such as "How are you?" Great body man, how's your day". Out of 250 a total of 34 responded back. Out of those 34 only 12 kept constant conversation and out of those 12 only 4 i can say have actually befriended me. Homastj,BradySf,N_calg and Statejock. Those are individuals whom when I'm off here I'll still know their great guys. I did this study with no personal agenda or hard feelings to the gentleman who didn't respond for whatever reason, I would like to think that guys on here aren't as shallow as they appear. Can't be mad at a person who thinks they're better than you, you just feel sorry that's their only thought. My Studies will appear on LOGO and out magazine and in my schools LGBT monthly mail out.

    Thank you all for reading and if this article /thesis changes at least one person my goal is achieved.

    Tyler T
  • xher

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    Mar 14, 2012 9:58 PM GMT
    I'm a thinking a lot of guys probably won't respond to messages period
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:04 PM GMT
    If you don't respond then why create a profile, many other workout sites with forums
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:09 PM GMT
    If all you said was "How are you?" or "Great body man, how's your day?" then that might be your problem. I'm not sure why you would make the assumption that it has anything to do with race. I'm a bad conversationalist myself, but I think that you might need to say something more to get someone's attention. Your profile is also almost empty. What do you expect people to talk to you about when you don't make any effort yourself? I don't respond to people who can't be bothered to say something and put all the pressure of the conversation on me.
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:18 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidIf all you said was "How are you?" or "Great body man, how's your day?" then that might be your problem. I'm not sure why you would make the assumption that it has anything to do with race. I'm a bad conversationalist myself, but I think that you might need to say something more to get someone's attention. Your profile is also almost empty. What do you expect people to talk to you about when you don't make any effort yourself? I don't respond to people who can't be bothered to say something and put all the pressure of the conversation on me.
    This site isn't facebook or something i'll list on my business card. It's a glorified hookup up site, if you cant respond to a simple message that says something about you and if you want to know about me, just ask. Many guys open up the convo with "what is your thesis on". You make convo, and attempt to show people you think.
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:28 PM GMT
    Lookupimastar saidThis site isn't facebook or something i'll list on my business card. It's a glorified hookup up site, if you cant respond to a simple message that says something about you and if you want to know about me, just ask. Many guys open up the convo with "what is your thesis on". You make convo, and attempt to show people you think.


    But you're the one initiating contact. Why is it the other person's responsibility to come up with the topic of conversation? You don't need to write your life's story in your profile. Just give me something I can strike up a dialogue about, or start your e-mail with something to talk about.

    The reason I don't respond to people who don't bother to say anything or create a profile with meaningful content is that I don't want to waste my time with trolls or people who are just looking for a quick hook-up. If people can't be bothered to put in even the slightest effort to say something about themselves, then that says something about their willingness to put in the work required to strike up a friendship (or more).
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
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    Lookupimastar saidThis site isn't facebook or something i'll list on my business card. It's a glorified hookup up site, if you cant respond to a simple message that says something about you and if you want to know about me, just ask. Many guys open up the convo with "what is your thesis on". You make convo, and attempt to show people you think.


    But you're the one initiating contact. Why is it the other person's responsibility to come up with the topic of conversation? You don't need to write your life's story in your profile. Just give me something I can strike up a dialogue about, or start your e-mail with something to talk about.

    The reason I don't respond to people who don't bother to say anything or create a profile with meaningful content is that I don't want to waste my time with trolls or people who are just looking for a quick hook-up. If people can't be bothered to put in even the slightest effort to say something about themselves, then that says something about their willingness to put in the work required to strike up a friendship (or more).
    Instead of giving excuses next time give a person a shot and speak to them. I worked really hard on my thesis and if personal info in my profile is a killer then that's their issue. Man don't make excuses for ignorance.
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:37 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA said
    Lookupimastar saidThis site isn't facebook or something i'll list on my business card. It's a glorified hookup up site, if you cant respond to a simple message that says something about you and if you want to know about me, just ask. Many guys open up the convo with "what is your thesis on". You make convo, and attempt to show people you think.


    But you're the one initiating contact. Why is it the other person's responsibility to come up with the topic of conversation? You don't need to write your life's story in your profile. Just give me something I can strike up a dialogue about, or start your e-mail with something to talk about.

    The reason I don't respond to people who don't bother to say anything or create a profile with meaningful content is that I don't want to waste my time with trolls or people who are just looking for a quick hook-up. If people can't be bothered to put in even the slightest effort to say something about themselves, then that says something about their willingness to put in the work required to strike up a friendship (or more).


    Absolutely that
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
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    DudeInNOVA said
    Lookupimastar saidThis site isn't facebook or something i'll list on my business card. It's a glorified hookup up site, if you cant respond to a simple message that says something about you and if you want to know about me, just ask. Many guys open up the convo with "what is your thesis on". You make convo, and attempt to show people you think.


    But you're the one initiating contact. Why is it the other person's responsibility to come up with the topic of conversation? You don't need to write your life's story in your profile. Just give me something I can strike up a dialogue about, or start your e-mail with something to talk about.

    The reason I don't respond to people who don't bother to say anything or create a profile with meaningful content is that I don't want to waste my time with trolls or people who are just looking for a quick hook-up. If people can't be bothered to put in even the slightest effort to say something about themselves, then that says something about their willingness to put in the work required to strike up a friendship (or more).


    Absolutely that


    So instead of supporting my findings within the community you guys would rather knock my findings than to fix it it. Says more about you as a person to find argument in my findings.
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    Mar 14, 2012 10:46 PM GMT
    Lookupimastar saidInstead of giving excuses next time give a person a shot and speak to them. I worked really hard on my thesis and if personal info in my profile is a killer then that's their issue. Man don't make excuses for ignorance.


    You've answered the question about why most people don't respond to you, and it has nothing to do with race. You want other people to make the effort that you aren't willing to make yourself.
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    Mar 14, 2012 11:19 PM GMT
    Lookupimastar said I have taken my time to message 250 white males on here. I messaged them with simple messages such as "How are you?" Great body man, how's your day". Out of 250 a total of 34 responded back.
    And I'll bet that 180 of them have never logged on.......icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:11 AM GMT
    The OP is hot as fuck! Those who didn't respond to his messages just weren't horny enough, or were blind. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:15 AM GMT
    A great profile pic on any gay website, regardless of whether that photo indicates race (and your torso shot does not), is no guarantee that anyone who receives dozens of generic "hey," "wassup?" and "hot pics!" messages daily will reply to yours or even simply glance at your profile. Why? Because there are way too many other people online initiating contact with far more interesting profiles and things to say.

    Generating responses to one's emails from people who are used to trolling is like creating a thread that gets lots of views and posts - it's both an art and a science, a formula even I've yet to crack. Though with a title like "Gay and Race relations amongst our community," this thread has a chance of going viral.
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:24 AM GMT
    Who cares about faggots. There are tons of people out there for you. Most gays are fucked up in the head and end up dying alone and pathetic, so you should work on finding a partner, not being the belle of the ball in the messed up "gay community".

    And your study is not exactly scientific, some guys just do not reply to messages. How do you know you'd get any more replies if you were a white guy? I'll admit, I probably ignore most messages because many are simply annoying and pointless. You could have messaged me for all I know and i'd have no idea.
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:24 AM GMT
    You might want to check out something like:

    http://stopracismandhomophobiaongrindr.tumblr.com/

    A lot of material in there for you to pad your thesis out.
  • Generaleclect...

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    Mar 15, 2012 12:28 AM GMT
    I think a big problem here is that the guys that didn't respond could've done so for any number of reasons.

    Some could've been offline, maybe some just don't respond to messages or only certain types, nothing much to say, you weren't their cup of tea, they recognized you from work/school, their pet just died - anything.

    And the experiment itself seems one-sided. Maybe get friends of different races and similar builds to message people and compare? Even then, the reasons are hard to gauge here. Maybe it is easier on cruise-y sites.
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    I think I emailed you once, and no response. I don't care, it's just ironic.

    Also, I doubt it has anything to do with race, if I just saw your pics I would of guessed you were a tan white guy, or Brazilian or something like that.
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:36 AM GMT
    As I see it, you don't have data to evaluate if the results where positive or negative since you can't compare it with anything. You could, though, have one white, one black, and one mixed friend send the same message to the same people and track the reactions.
    Actually, there are studies about it and you'll surprised how many people are at online communities just lurking icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:40 AM GMT
    Man, you are going about this totally wrong...

    If you want to know if people will reject you or not for being black, then you have to eliminate every OTHER option for them to reject you.
    To just send out a bunch of mails and thinking you're being 'rejected' cause a lot of people didnt answer doesnt really hold up as good research to me, sorry mate.

    To think that race was the only reason they rejected you is even more ignorant than if it actually would have been true, in my opinion. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Good luck with your thing tho
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:41 AM GMT
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:44 AM GMT
    eh..yeah

    just browsed your profile now and i see you have loads of comments, almost all from white guys that seem to be drooling all over you....so even only from that your theory seems to crackle, no? ;)
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:47 AM GMT
    JakeIsaac said
    WhoDey said

    Everyone is a troll here....
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    This isn't an innocent thread. His experiment is seriously flawed, something masters students should know. I think the OP is just trolling.
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:50 AM GMT
    yeah your arguement is full of holes mister.
    I have noticed that many of the emails I get here are from 20 somethings wanting to skype sex, meet up (even though im on the other side of the planet) have me pay for them to come ere to Oz. So I will admit I ignore or dont respond to most emails and just delete them.
    However I have sent messages and recieved messages from guys who post in the forums and had some great conversations.
    You sound angry and resentful in your posts too? not a balnaced arguement matey.

    edit you also may want to look at the 2 sides of this site ie the forums where despite the usual crap some really interesting and quality guys hang out. The other being chat where most of the guys just want to hook up.
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    Mar 15, 2012 12:55 AM GMT
    I thank you all for you criticisms and agreements.
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    Mar 15, 2012 1:21 AM GMT
    Lookupimastar saidMy name is Tyler T, I'm a masters student working on wrapping up my thesis on race within our community. I've been to clubs and other sites to see how this community reacts to race. I'm recently out and a white friend of mines mentioned how he likes black men but they don't like him. Me being born to an African American mother and Italian father decided to see how would the Caucasian guys on a site like this react to me since I'm black by public standards because of color. I've been on here two weeks and I've never been more disappointed to be in the gay community. I have taken my time to message 250 white males on here. I messaged them with simple messages such as "How are you?" Great body man, how's your day". Out of 250 a total of 34 responded back. Out of those 34 only 12 kept constant conversation and out of those 12 only 4 i can say have actually befriended me. Homastj,BradySf,N_calg and Statejock. Those are individuals whom when I'm off here I'll still know their great guys. I did this study with no personal agenda or hard feelings to the gentleman who didn't respond for whatever reason, I would like to think that guys on here aren't as shallow as they appear. Can't be mad at a person who thinks they're better than you, you just feel sorry that's their only thought. My Studies will appear on LOGO and out magazine and in my schools LGBT monthly mail out.

    Thank you all for reading and if this article /thesis changes at least one person my goal is achieved.

    Tyler T


    change mixed race to white. contact same guys who did not answer. compare results.