why do other discrete guys only seem to like cocky straight guys?

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    Mar 15, 2012 4:38 AM GMT
    I'm discrete and although I'm not overly attracted to fems (not that there's anything wrong with them just not my taste) I don't only go after cocky straight men. I also like other masculine gay guys who are caring and nice.

    But I've noticed these other discrete gays only are attracted to and only want to surround themselves with straight guys. I've tried talking to them and they want nothing to do with me because I'm actually nice and not a jerk and don't their description of big tough and macho. why are they like that? They don't even like to talk to me as a friend and wont dare bring me around their straight friends.
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    Mar 15, 2012 10:37 AM GMT
    ha its true! And i am one of them. I am just VERY VERY attracted to cocky straight guys with wavy hair cute smile fit body and just plain sex! typical jock!

    I will tell you why i think it is. For me - these are the kind of guys i am interested in and otherwise i am not interested in men. Or other men i should say. Its also what you grow around. I always grew in an ultra straight environment and i always was surrounded by these people in Sydney so I grew to be secretly attracted to them. Perhaps if i grew up in paris or rome i would have grew to secretly like the romantic gentlemen type, etc And therefore most straight discreet guys grow up in this environment.

    icon_smile.gif hope that helps mate
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    Mar 15, 2012 10:41 AM GMT
    You mean discreet, not discrete, they are two different words and have two different meanings. Homonyms. Other than sounding the same, they have nothing to do with each other.
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    Mar 15, 2012 10:55 AM GMT
    Meh it's forbidden fruit so that's why it's appealing.

    If your a discreet gay man then hooking up with a 'straight' guy is preferable because they are unlikely to wear their homosexual leanings openly/cause you to confront your own.

    In the end though seeing any sort of 'straight' man is usually a painful experience because if you fall for them they are unlikely to reciprocate. Personally I like people who own who they are.



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    Mar 15, 2012 11:44 AM GMT
    As if this topic hasn't been hashed out a zillion times before. icon_confused.gif Discreet is code for deep in the closet, and since you all seem to be afraid as being pinned as gay, you try to surround yourselves with people that won't "give you away."
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    Mar 15, 2012 11:59 AM GMT
    They are exactly what you said they are - JERKS.

    I just could not be bothered with wasting my time with them. icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 15, 2012 1:04 PM GMT
    Im like you Im 'straight acting' but I like nice guys. Sometimes I think the guys that are into the macho jerks just haven't accepted the fact that guys can be good guys and masuline at the same time.
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    Mar 15, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
    grrrooooooowL!
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    Mar 15, 2012 9:24 PM GMT
    Physically/mannerisms attractive. Over time the insecurity got annoying. I don't want to be anybody's dirty secret, TYVM.
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    Mar 16, 2012 6:04 PM GMT
    Anulap said

    Why would they think they cant be masculine and nice at the same time.


    Because many people equate "nice" to "doormat" - a very NOT masculine trait.
    As for the OP, I'd think discreet guys prefer the company of cocky macho guys because it's easier to stay discreet that way.
  • LJay

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    Mar 16, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    Exactly, MightyMouse. The safest way to avoid indiscretion is to not get any.
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    Mar 17, 2012 3:18 AM GMT
    watevatreva saidha its true! And i am one of them. I am just VERY VERY attracted to cocky straight guys with wavy hair cute smile fit body and just plain sex! typical jock!

    I will tell you why i think it is. For me - these are the kind of guys i am interested in and otherwise i am not interested in men. Or other men i should say. Its also what you grow around. I always grew in an ultra straight environment and i always was surrounded by these people in Sydney so I grew to be secretly attracted to them. Perhaps if i grew up in paris or rome i would have grew to secretly like the romantic gentlemen type, etc And therefore most straight discreet guys grow up in this environment.

    icon_smile.gif hope that helps mate


    good luck!
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    Mar 17, 2012 3:22 AM GMT
    I am discreet and can't stand cocky people.
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    Mar 17, 2012 3:56 AM GMT
    OP saidwhy do other discrete guys only seem to like cocky straight guys?


    Well, I really don't know. But it seems quite reasonable that people who live a life of lies and deception don't mind other behaviors and relationships that can only hurt them in the long run.
  • vintovka

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    Mar 17, 2012 4:04 AM GMT
    if you're so discreet how do these other discreet guys even know that you're gay? maybe you're not as "discreet" as you think you are? sounds like you're only attracted to guys who aren't attracted to you, so welcome to the human race.


    b.t.w. it's late and i can't be bothered with the effort to use caps on this lame thread.
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    Mar 17, 2012 5:17 AM GMT
    CollegeDude27 saidwhy do other discrete guys only seem to like cocky straight guys?
    Because all cocky straight guys are closeted gay guys.
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    Mar 17, 2012 8:10 AM GMT
    Bunjamon saidAs if this topic hasn't been hashed out a zillion times before. icon_confused.gifDiscreet is code for deep in the closet, and since you all seem to be afraid as being pinned as gay, you try to surround yourselves with people that won't "give you away."


    +1
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    Mar 17, 2012 8:41 AM GMT
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    CollegeDude27 saidwhy do other discrete guys only seem to like cocky straight guys?
    Because all cocky straight guys are closeted gay guys.


    So true, in the past I have met 4 guys that flirted with me, maybe fooled around, but they all claimed to be straight. One like it up the ass, another one like me to finger him while he blew me, another one wanted my naked pics, but he was completely "straight"

    I understand that the prostate is great and you don't need to be gay to enjoy it, but if you get hard at the sight of another dude, then you are not a completely discreet straight guy.

    BTW, all these guys flirted with me first, then i reciprocated, i wasn't trying to bait straight guys, then again they were like 19-21, so maybe they are scare to be out.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 17, 2012 9:15 AM GMT
    Dominican_Gent said
    Bunjamon saidAs if this topic hasn't been hashed out a zillion times before. icon_confused.gifDiscreet is code for deep in the closet, and since you all seem to be afraid as being pinned as gay, you try to surround yourselves with people that won't "give you away."


    +1


    + over 9000
  • jackthejock

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    Mar 18, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
    ugh, all we need is more queens claiming they're straight acting. You're probably gayer than elves at Christmas but try and walk and talk butch. Real men are comfortable with who they are and who they're attracted to. Yes, I often have to tell people I am gay, or find that people are surprised when I say I have a boyfriend but who cares? I date guys who are smart, kind and have similar interests how other people perceive them is irrelevant.
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    Mar 18, 2012 10:23 PM GMT
    njmeanwhile saidPhysically/mannerisms attractive. Over time the insecurity got annoying. I don't want to be anybody's dirty secret, TYVM.


    I laughed when I read "dirty secret" because that is exactly what I was thinking I am to a guy I know who loves to suck cock, swallow loads and has been fucked but does not want me to meet his uncles because they would kid him for being gay. I said why would they do that and he said because "You can tell you're gay." They do not know of his secret life.
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    Mar 18, 2012 10:32 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI think there is some correlation with being treated poorly and sex appeal and attraction. It's unfortunate, but from observation most people find assholes who are physically attractive to be a turn on. I used to feel this way when I was in my twenties. I was aware of this within myself and I resented feeling that way. But over time, I developed some confidence, have done quite a bit to develop my own sense of self-esteem which resulted in me reaching a level of indifference toward assholes who might have a hot body/handsome face.

    I see a pattern with assholes who are generally "takers" and people tend to equate this with masculinity or a strong sense of male essence, intoxicating and strong sexual energy and animal-like sex appeal. I'm glad I stepped away from this and finally realized that all that shit is lack of human evolution. Good riddance. I want nothing to do with that.



    This is the most insightful thing I've read in a while. Can you be my therapist please! lol.
  • BmwKid92

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    Mar 18, 2012 10:56 PM GMT
    whatever yo
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    Mar 18, 2012 11:08 PM GMT
    Eh... a lot of guys and girls like cocky straight guys. You don't have to be "discreet" to be attracted to them. You're attracted to their confidence. Most gay guys are attracted to confidence. Being cocky might be offensive but you'll notice that the best selling gay porn has your obligatory cocky white guy or cocky black thug role. And you better believe that if most of the poster's on this board were approached by a masculine, somewhat cocky guy that really liked them and were willing to change, they'd be all fucking over it. Confidence is great, when done well.
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    Mar 18, 2012 11:24 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI think there is some correlation with being treated poorly and sex appeal and attraction. It's unfortunate, but from observation most people find assholes who are physically attractive to be a turn on. I used to feel this way when I was in my twenties. I was aware of this within myself and I resented feeling that way. But over time, I developed some confidence, have done quite a bit to develop my own sense of self-esteem which resulted in me reaching a level of indifference toward assholes who might have a hot body/handsome face.

    I see a pattern with assholes who are generally "takers" and people tend to equate this with masculinity or a strong sense of male essence, intoxicating and strong sexual energy and animal-like sex appeal. I'm glad I stepped away from this and finally realized that all that shit is lack of human evolution. Good riddance. I want nothing to do with that.

    Give me a guy who's masculine, respectful and who knows how to be gentle and vulnerable at the appropriate time any day of the week.


    Yeah, its called having a facade to bolster all that blatant insecurity....