When will America be ready for a prime time GAY DATING SHOW?

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    Jul 09, 2008 4:12 PM GMT
    It took years, but finally America is ready for a gay dating show, "A Shot At Love with Tila Tequila", about a bisexual woman looking for love. However, that only deals with female homosexuality.

    What I find interesting is that a number of people who oppose gay rights and find homosexuality uncomfortable only feel that way about male homosexuality - female homosexuality, on the other hand, seems to get a proverbial "free pass" as acceptable behavior.

    This belief is quite regnant amongst a large portion of the population from my experience.

    I don't know, but even though we as gay men have made a tremendous strides in gaining acceptance and increasing our visibility on television, when I watch tv or anything to do with pop culture, I just feel left out.

    It's almost as though people try to deny that male homosexuality exists and every relationship and love between two people is valid EXCEPT for the bond between two gay men.

    Thoughts?
  • art_smass

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    Jul 09, 2008 4:45 PM GMT
    RuPaul's Drag Race is currently in pre-production. Maybe a couple of the contestants will fall in love.
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    Jul 09, 2008 4:54 PM GMT
    hell no. no no no no no no...

    isn't it enough for breeders to embarrass themselves on tv? i don't think i understand why there has to be a gay/black/latino/asian equivalent to every shitty w.a.s.p. structure in our culture...

    the straight white people have this this this... that means we need one for gay white people, straight black people, gay black people, straight latino people, gay latino people, straight asian people, gay asian people, vomit, mucus, drivel, sexually transmitted diseases, a child is born with autism every 8 minutes, blah blah blah...

    isn't the tila tequila show reason enough to NOT have any more gay dating shows??? i'd suggest a gay version of jerry springer to go along with this, but that's kinda built into every episode already, isn't it?

    i have an idea: why don't people turn their tv's off and learn how to read again? they have books for straight white people, gay white people, straight black people, gay blah blah blah blah blah
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    Jul 09, 2008 5:41 PM GMT
    female homosexuality gets a 'free pass' 'cuz its like every straight man's fantasy to watch two girls get it on... two gay guys?? not so much...
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    Jul 09, 2008 7:43 PM GMT
    Fox tried a version of gay men on a dating show in 2004. It was called "Playing It Straight" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playing_It_Straight) in which a woman (a bachelorette if you will) got to choose from a bunch of guys, but half the guys were really gay and were "playing it straight."

    Lifetime had a better dating show called "Gay, Straight, or Taken" in which a woman went on a date with three guys and had to determine who was what.

    America will be ready by the end of this century. I hope.
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    Jul 09, 2008 7:57 PM GMT
    Atlazeia saidLifetime had a better dating show called "Gay, Straight, or Taken" in which a woman went on a date with three guys and had to determine who was what.


    My favorite part of the horrible "Gay, Straight, or Taken" was the "gay siren" that sounded when the woman selected which guy she thought was gay. Insanely stupid but compelling in a low brow sort of way.
  • mcwclewis

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    Jul 09, 2008 8:26 PM GMT
    Bravo had a show called, I think, "Boy Meets World," which was a dating show where a guy had to choose from a bunch of dudes, and then towards the end he finds out that a couple of them are straight, but not which ones.

    It was ok.
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    Jul 09, 2008 9:55 PM GMT
    am i the only person who thinks along the lines that TV shows are made to attract the largest market possible? especially prime time network TV... now.. which population is the largest... hmmm.. HMMMMMMMMMMM.

    there's a gay TV network up here, they have all sorts of gay versions of shows.
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    Jul 09, 2008 10:23 PM GMT
    The show on Bravo was Boy Meets Boy. It wasn't bad. The bachelor guy, James, was very attractive.
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    Jul 09, 2008 11:01 PM GMT
    Watch HGTV and you will understand why we wont have a prime time dating show for gays anytime soon. I think its bad enough all the media does is show the extremist of the pride parade and now on 98% of all the shows on the gay men are flaming queens. Even the guy on survivor wasnt masculine.

    For alot of people television is how they learn about gays and thus build up their expectations that all gays are like that. For years I though all lesbians were dykes on bikes because I didnt meet any other type. Lets take Jerry Falwell for instance. He claims to know all about gays and our agendas. Why? What makes him an authority? Because he watches TV, reads all the gay publications, and I mean all including the gay porn. Its not because he has gay friends, or relatives but because he reads publications and watches TV.

    What we need is to change mainstream view of gays first then we can strive for primetime dating shows and real sitcoms not just comedies.
  • irishboxers

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    Jul 09, 2008 11:34 PM GMT
    tonyp321 said

    What we need is to change mainstream view of gays first then we can strive for primetime dating shows and real sitcoms not just comedies.


    Amen. It's a long but necessary road to travel. How long after desegregation was there a prime time black show? 10 years? Not sure, but it wasn't instantaneous. We're ahead of the curve that way having already had Will & Grace and Ellen as positive media images even though we're still unable to marry in 48 states. I'm sure someone will be upset at the comparison between the gay rights movement and the civil rights movement, but the parallels of needing social change before media change are relevant, IMHO.
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    Jul 09, 2008 11:36 PM GMT
    Never... everyone knows that gay's arent allowed on television!


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    Jul 09, 2008 11:39 PM GMT
    Global_Citizen saidThe show on Bravo was Boy Meets Boy. It wasn't bad. The bachelor guy, James, was very attractive.



    It was actually, not a bad show. It was very tastefully done. Set in Palm Springs. They threw in twists, of course: Half of the "bachelors" were straight. I dated one of the cast-offs for a bit. lol.
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    Jul 09, 2008 11:54 PM GMT
    Another garbage reality TV show....I'll take Will and Grace as a sign of gay acceptance over reality tv any day.


    I guess it's to be expected there's over 1000 channels, that's what 24,000+ of programing required.


    I have 4-6 Tv channels with gay in the title alone


    plus Al Jezzera but I've never watched it, It's always in the back of my mind that I'll turn it on and a swat team will burst through the windowicon_confused.gif
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    Jul 10, 2008 12:03 AM GMT
    Anyone notice how Katy Perrys song "I kissed a girl" hit number one on the charts....

    But we all know if a hot guy was singing a song about kissing another dude and how much he liked it - and said he hopes his girlfriend doesnt mind.....

    Well - it just seems impossible huh....
  • mcwclewis

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    Jul 10, 2008 2:20 AM GMT
    I just had that conversation at work the other day, Im actually in the works of writing it... however, Im not sure that I can convince a metal band to allow me to preform it in public.
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    Jul 10, 2008 2:30 AM GMT
    Down here in oz. Dyke's made to be more palatable than two men. If they are teaching about same sex couples. They use two mommies, and not two daddies.

    I feel the root of this in oz comes from the fact it was not illegal to be a dyke, as two women are not able to have sexual intercourse, as are two men. Thus less stigma, and issues. Also why dikes have not had the battle to fight, as the guys have, and still do.

    But like in the str8 world. The guys do the hard slog, and the girls just walk right in, and benefit too.....
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    Jul 10, 2008 2:55 AM GMT
    'Tila Tequila'?...is that really primetime. VH1 would hire me to bend over and rim my own ass if it meant a rating. It's only about money, no real dating. It's about entertainment. I say producers stay away from our Gay dating as it can only hurt us. No need to make gay dating even more of a joke than much of our own community has.
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:00 AM GMT
    One of my buds was a contestant on Playing It Straight. They yanked it before it ended. She ended up picking the straight guy so she won. My buddy has some great behind the scenes stories.
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:22 AM GMT
    There's usually a few gay episodes on the various MTV dating shows. But really, they just piss me off, just promotes more gay stereotypes.
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:27 AM GMT
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  • Hunter9

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    Jul 10, 2008 3:39 AM GMT
    the problem with a gay TV show is that (like all dating TV shows) no sparks will ever fly, but that won't stop them from sleeping with each other!
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:46 AM GMT
    Blind Date once did a gay matchup, in response to huge volumes of mail begging for it (from the likes of us, of course) - but they stacked the deck to make sure no sparks would fly. They matched up a totally grounded and stable homebody with a flamboyant party boy. It was painful to watch. At the end, the grounded guy said he couldn't see any possibility of a relationship. The party boy said, "This date is the longest relationship I've ever had!"
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    Jul 10, 2008 3:48 AM GMT
    Alpha62667 saidOne of my buds was a contestant on Playing It Straight. They yanked it before it ended. She ended up picking the straight guy so she won. My buddy has some great behind the scenes stories.



    Alpha, please share your stories. I was obsessed with that show. I finally saw the ending last year when it showed on Logo. I could pretty much tell who the gay guys were.
  • zel_155

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    Jul 10, 2008 3:49 AM GMT
    Would you really want to watch predictable and negative stereotypes? The producers are going to go for entertainment value, so that pretty much would exclude the masculine "he-seems-normal" gay guy.


    dancerjackhell no. no no no no no no...

    isn't it enough for breeders to embarrass themselves on tv? i don't think i understand why there has to be a gay/black/latino/asian equivalent to every shitty w.a.s.p. structure in our culture...

    the straight white people have this this this... that means we need one for gay white people, straight black people, gay black people, straight latino people, gay latino people, straight asian people, gay asian people, vomit, mucus, drivel, sexually transmitted diseases, a child is born with autism every 8 minutes, blah blah blah...

    isn't the tila tequila show reason enough to NOT have any more gay dating shows??? i'd suggest a gay version of jerry springer to go along with this, but that's kinda built into every episode already, isn't it?

    i have an idea: why don't people turn their tv's off and learn how to read again? they have books for straight white people, gay white people, straight black people, gay blah blah blah blah blah



    There wouldn't be a need for any equivalent if there was inclusion from the beginning.