Israel =)

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    Yafo - Jaffa - Jope, Israel.
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    Mar 28, 2012 8:11 AM GMT
    Israel is truly the greatest place -- go visit: you'll love every minute!
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    Mar 28, 2012 3:58 PM GMT
    I have a young Asian friend who lived with a 'settlement developer' for nearly 5 years in Tel Aviv, he was well received by the local young gay crowd some of whom I met through him. He spoke highly of the gay life there amongst the younger crowd.
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    May 20, 2012



    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7409182n
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    May 21, 2012 4:21 PM GMT
    I'm Arab who Loves Israel !

    holy land !
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    May 22, 2012 6:35 PM GMT
    Wolverine4 thanks for posting the video. enjoying watching it.

    http://news.yahoo.com/electric-car-network-gets-first-test-israel-063016186--finance.html

    Electric car network gets first test in Israel



    ROSH HAAYIN, Israel (AP) — Israeli entrepreneur Shai Agassi has begun rolling out the world's first nationwide electric car network. Now, will the drivers come?

    After more than $400 million in outlays and months behind schedule, dozens of electric cars have hit the road in Israel, the test site Agassi chose for his Better Place venture. Four stations where the cars can get a new dose of juice when their batteries run out are operating, and the plan is to ramp that number up within months.

    The concept: to wean the world from oil and eliminate the biggest hurdles to environmentally friendly electric cars — high cost and limited range.

    To do this, Better Place has jettisoned the fixed battery. Instead, drivers can swap their depleted batteries for fully charged ones at a network of stations, receiving a full, 160-kilometer (100-mile) range in five minutes. Better Place owns the batteries, bringing down the purchase price of the cars using the network.

    People driving shorter distances, the vast majority of customers, can plug in their batteries each day to chargers installed at their homes, offices and public locations, which will fully recharge in six to eight hours.

    He faces a wall of skepticism. A major concern is "range anxiety": Will the car conk out because its battery is drained, stranding the driver in a dicey neighborhood, en route to the hospital, or with three wailing kids in back?

    Rising fuel prices worldwide still haven't sent electric car sales surging, noted U.S.-based automotive expert John McElroy. "It may not be an energy price issue," he said. "Consumers may simply decide that electric cars don't offer the range they need."

    Agassi, a former top executive at software giant SAP AG, said he is ready to prove his doubters wrong. "We're driving a car that most people said would be a fantasy," he said.

    The swappable battery model aims to reassure drivers about range and show they don't need to sacrifice convenience or cash to switch to electric.

    So far, the four Better Place battery stations are set up in central and northern Israel. During the second half of the year, around 40 stations are due to be operating across the country. But even before that, the company says enough will be up that a motorist could make the 500-kilometer (300-mile) drive from Israel's northern tip to its southern end.

    Agassi has raised $750 million from investors including General Electric Co. and HSBC Holdings PLC since founding Better Place 4 1/2 years ago.

    French automaker Renault has begun selling a sedan, the Fluence, customized to use the stations, priced in Israel at roughly $32,000, comparable to other sedans sold here. Currently, about 140 are on the road, most driven by Better Place employees.

    The Fluence should start becoming available to the general public within weeks. Leasing companies, which buy about two-thirds of the more than 200,000 new cars sold annually in Israel, have ordered more than 1,800, and private customers have ordered several hundred more.

    Compared to electric or hybrid cars in other markets, the sales numbers in this nation of nearly 8 million might not be as humble as they seem: In 2011, Chevrolet sold about 7,700 Volts and Nissan sold under 10,000 LEAFs in the U.S., which has a population of more than 310 million.

    "It interests all fleet managers we talk to," said Shai Dahan, CEO of Eldan Transportation, a top Israeli leasing group.

    Better Place, which had promised to have thousands of cars on the road last year, acknowledges the rollout is behind schedule, mostly because of bureaucratic hurdles and production issues at Renault.

    Better Place has also spent years testing its integrated system designed to allow its operation center, which is connected to every car, to monitor the vehicles and correct problems remotely. For instance, its software notifies drivers when their batteries are running low and directs them to the nearest switching station.

    Israel sales director Zohar Bali predicts up to 5,000 Fluences will be silently running on Israeli roads and highways within a year.

    Israel was chosen for the experiment in part because of its tech-savvy population. Also, with 80 percent of the population living in a narrow, densely populated stretch along the Mediterranean coast, it provides a perfect laboratory for the charging network.

    Better Place claims it can shave up to 20 percent off the annual cost of owning a car, especially if gas prices, now around $8 a gallon here, continue to rise. Drivers buy access to the switching stations and charging spots through a monthly package ranging from under $300 to over $500, depending on mileage.

    Israelis are taking notice. Better Place says more than 80,000 people have trekked to its visitor's center, situated at an abandoned oil reserves depot outside Tel Aviv.

    What happens in Israel could decide how broadly Better Place deploys.

    So far the Fluence is the only model compatible with the grid, but Renault's Middle East director, Jean-Christophe Pierson, says the company is considering a more compact model. Better Place is also in contact with other carmakers.

    Denmark is set to become Better Place's second launch site this year. Australia is to become its first major market, with deployment in the capital, Canberra, also this year. Small-scale projects are in place in Hawaii and California. Amsterdam is the next European target after Denmark.

    The company also has its sights set on China, where it already has opened a demonstration battery switching station.

    Agassi sees the "tipping point" for electric cars coming in two to three years, propelled by dropping prices of cars and batteries. By 2017, he expects 50 percent of all new car sales in Israel to be electric.

    The largest investor is The Israel Corp., whose holdings include Israel's biggest oil refinery and deep water oil drilling.

    Idan Ofer, whose family controls The Israel Corp. and who serves as Better Place's chairman, said he saw no contradiction between his oil and clean-tech holdings.

    Film giant Kodak "knew about digital photography. And look what happened. They still went bankrupt because they didn't do anything about it," observed Ofer. "There are many examples. I don't want to be there."

  • MelB4Ever

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    May 22, 2012 6:54 PM GMT
    International Israeli DJ: Offer Nissim. He is gay too.

















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    May 30, 2012 9:23 PM GMT
    Sarit Hadad - well known Israeli singer who sings oriental/mizrahi type of music.

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  • MelB4Ever

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    Jun 04, 2012 6:05 PM GMT
    Israeli guys

    Nir Lavi

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    Yoav Reuveni

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    Guy Lubelchik

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  • MelB4Ever

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    Jun 05, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/28/travel/gay-pride-travel/index.html

    The best picks around the world for celebrating Pride
    May 30, 2012

    (CNN) -- Politics will mix with partying this Pride season as gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people and their allies around the world celebrate President Barack Obama's support for same-sex marriage and protest North Carolina's passage of a constitutional amendment banning same-sex unions.

    When planning a Pride vacation, pick a destination where the scale of the celebration is one that you can handle, recommends Ed Salvato, gay travel expert and editor in chief of Man About World, a soon-to-launch gay travel magazine for the iPad.

    Instead of the biggies such as San Francisco or New York City, which might be overwhelming, consider choosing "a nice, manageable Pride in an interesting location." Book early, as hotels fill quickly, and be sure to ask about Pride packages, says Salvato. "Often hotels will throw in something so your party starts as soon as you get into your room."

    All are welcome to join in on the fun. For more tips on enjoying the best Pride fests worldwide, check out our guide:

    Boston: June 1- 10

    What Salvato loves about Boston Pride is the diversity of people from all walks of life who come out for the celebration. This time of year, he says, "shows Boston in its greatest light."

    One highlight of Boston Pride is dancing in the streets. On Saturday, June 9, a Women's Block Party begins at 1 Boylston Place just after the parade. On Sunday afternoon, block partiers can pick between shaking their groove thing at the Back Bay Edition on St. James Avenue in Boston, or the JP Edition on Perkins Street in Jamaica Plain, which features a Dogs & Drag Fashion Show, family-friendly activities and five female DJs. Other options include themed Pride @ Night parties that take place all weekend long, including a Youth Dance, which kicks off at 7 p.m. on Saturday.

    But Boston Pride is more than just one big party.

    This year, cultural events include a human rights and education discussion as well as a free exhibit at the Boston Center for Adult Education called "Pride: 40 Years of Protest & Celebration," which chronicles the early history of LGBT advocacy in New England.

    Early arrivals to the city can call Old Boston Tours to book the "Old Boston Original Secret Tour" and learn more about the extraordinary lives of the men and women who made Boston great. The $30 tour is 90 minutes, and reservations are required. Visitors will not want to miss the new American wing at Boston's Museum of Fine Arts, which includes a stunning Tiffany favrile glass window, "Parakeets and Gold Fish Bowl."

    Tel Aviv, Israel: June 3 - 8

    During the city's annual Pride celebration, Tel Aviv lives up to its reputation as the gay capital of the Middle East. (Even the crosswalks are painted in rainbow stripes.) All week long, clubs and bars are packed, and special events are planned, including two concerts by Grammy- and BRIT Award-nominee Rufus Wainwright.

    On Friday, June 8, revelers hit the streets for the parade that has become one of Tel Aviv's biggest events of the year. Kicking off in Gan Meir garden, a small park in the heart of the city's gay community, the parade ends with a massive beach party on the Mediterranean Sea. From 2 p.m. until evening, Gordon Beach is mobbed with people moving to the sounds of the city's hottest DJs.

    For more beach fun, visit Hilton Beach, a popular spot among gay men. Then, for a change of scenery, check out the Azrieli Observatory for a chance to view "the white city" from the highest point possible. Or plan an afternoon at Beit Ha'ir, a museum of Tel Aviv history housed in Town Hall.

    Amsterdam, Netherlands: July 28 - August 5

    What better year to visit Amsterdam than this one? This year marks the 25th anniversary of the world's first gay monument, the Homomonument, located on the Westermarkt in the center of the city. Visitors can pay their respects, then stop by Pink Point, an information kiosk/shop providing an array of gay guides and souvenirs. Just around the corner is another opportunity to contemplate the meaning of freedom: the Anne Frank House, where the world-famous diary was penned while Frank hid in a secret annex.

    Next, top off the afternoon with a cold one (or three) at some of Amsterdam's microbreweries. Check the city's official website for a list of places to enjoy "rich tripels and fruity white beers" as well as "dark brown bocks and thirst-quenching pilsners." By nightfall, the gay districts on Reguliersdwarsstraat and Amstel will be hopping with street and club-circuit parties that rage all weekend long.

    The highlight of Amsterdam Pride is the famous Canal Parade on Saturday, August 4. Unlike in most parades, Amsterdam's floats actually float. This year, organizers expect half a million spectators will watch 75 decorated boats sail from 2 to 6 p.m. through the Prinsengracht Canal and Amstel River. Find a full listing of the more than 300 parties and cultural events on the official calendar.

    Asheville, North Carolina: October 6

    Known for its progressive politics and vibrant arts and culture scene, Asheville has been dubbed one of the "gayest cities in America" and one of the "top five surprisingly gay small towns" by The Advocate. The city's annual Blue Ridge Pride festival typically draws between 8,000 and 12,000 people from throughout the Southeast to Pack Square for a full day of music, workshops and family activities, as well as a showcase of gay-friendly businesses, service organizations and community groups.

    Pride festival chairperson Holly Parr says she's proud of how quickly Blue Ridge Pride, organized by an all-volunteer nonprofit, has grown since it was founded in 2009. "We're excited about what we are able to do for our greater Western North Carolina LGBTQ community," she says.

    The grassroots, hometown feel of Blue Ridge Pride makes this a special destination to consider. This is especially poignant given the recent amendment passed in North Carolina that defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman, says Salvato. "It's a good time to show our support and solidarity in a state that's had a setback," he explains.

    And with its sophisticated spas, shops, restaurants and more than 30 art galleries, as well as golf clubs and other outdoor activities in the Blue Ridge and Great Smoky mountains, Asheville offers plenty to do both before and after Pride.

    Atlanta: October 13 - 14

    Some call Atlanta the "GayTL," and the city offers something for everyone in the LGBT community.

    The largest pride event in the Southeast includes not only the main festival, but a Dyke March, a Trans March, and from August 29 to September 3, Black Gay Pride, sponsored by In the Life Atlanta. With a distinctive Southern flavor, the Atlanta Pride Festival in Piedmont Park entices people from all across the region. Some attendees from nearby towns revel in their once-a-year opportunity to step out of the closet.

    Pride festivities kick off well before the official weekend, with pre-Pride events such as an AIDS vigil, an exhibit of 25 years of international AIDS posters, a commitment ceremony and a men's designer event. And once the main weekend rolls around, visitors can take their pick from children's entertainers, a car and motorcycle show, a literary showcase, human rights exhibits, a community health expo, and a marketplace featuring more than 200 vendor booths. At 1 p.m. on Sunday, October 14, the parade kicks off down the streets of Midtown, drawing tens of thousands of spectators.

    And if all those options aren't enough, step out of the Pride fray to visit the Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Social Change to learn about King's life, legacy and teachings. Or visit Zoo Atlanta, in Grant Park, home to
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    Music is dedicated to Israel from Palestine icon_biggrin.gif



    I keep listening to it more than 20 times already.
  • MelB4Ever

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    Jun 08, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
    Updates from Tel Aviv Gay Pride 2012 which is today:







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    Jun 13, 2012 2:37 AM GMT
    honestly u can post as many hot guys from israel as u want, but i support Palestine.
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    Jun 13, 2012 3:57 AM GMT
    Did it occur to you, import, that you can support both?

    "Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491

    Yala, Peace!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1285693

    Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2271313
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    Jun 13, 2012 5:26 PM GMT
    Import saidhonestly u can post as many hot guys from israel as u want, but i support Palestine.


    Honestly good for you but I support Israel.
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    Jun 13, 2012 6:11 PM GMT
    Wolverine4 saidDid it occur to you, import, that you can support both?

    "Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491

    Yala, Peace!
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1285693

    Revisiting the Clinton Compromise Parameters
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2271313


    AyaTrollah pouncer> ZING

    LOL. Not much of a "zing" when someone simply states his bias.
    But, no, propaganda pouncer wouldn't understand that.
  • MelB4Ever

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    Jun 13, 2012 7:22 PM GMT
    More videos from this year's gay pride in Tel Aviv! =)


    Nice view from the top.




















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    Pouncer said
    MelB4Ever saidHonestly good for you but I support Israel.

    The "scientific method" in action, ladies and gentlemen.

    ROTFL.

    When someone vapidly says "I support Palestine", AyaTrollah pouncer things that's a "Zing[er]".
    When someone echoes it in reverse, then he thinks its stupid?

    These anti-Jewish/Israel hatists really haven't a clue about the scientific method.
    Never mind the brute idiocy of claiming "9 out of 100 is less than 5%" (wrong also about the 9 and 100 figures), but arguing from conflicting premises and a lot worse. Some of which is documented here:

    Intellectual dishonesty hall of shame:
    Freedom of opinion/press is found in Iran, not in US or UK.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151

    Enjoy!
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    Jun 14, 2012 6:19 AM GMT
    Import saidhonestly u can post as many hot guys from israel as u want, but i support Palestine.


    I support you icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 14, 2012 6:45 AM GMT
    When will you start supporting gay rights in "Palestine"?
    [Or are you again revealing that you hate Israel/Jews more than you love or care for your own brethren?]

    Countries that support gays or kill them
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/984797

    Consider that the first Arab to come out in the middle east is an Israeli Arab who wrote his coming out article in Hebrew!

    Gay Palestinians
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1061322
  • MelB4Ever

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    Jun 20, 2012 2:25 AM GMT
    Some interesting info about Israel from Yahoo UK. Someone asked this question:

    Is Israel a multicultural state?
    Like UK for example.
    What about race? For example,do you find many Cristian Caucasians (Romanian immigrants let say) with Israely citizenship?
    What about Aryans? Are there Aryans? Or Christian Negroes? Or Pakistani/Indians?

    Some of the answers:

    In israel you will find a lot of cultures.....Arab culture,Russian culture ,Polish culture, Ukrainian culture ,Hungarian culture , Ethiopian culture, Farsi culture , Romanian culture , and even some French , British and American culture.................................… NO israeli culture

    Where there is multi-culture there is multi-race.......You can not compare israel with the UK....In the UK there is many people with MANy different cultures forming the British community and adding to the British culture.....In israel there is many immigrants with different cultures ......but there is NO"israely" culture.

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    It is.

    It has many Jewish ethnic groups. So, that's multicultural, even if they do have one obvious thing keeping them together. Most of these groups work together great, but some divisions still occur to keep them all within a unique identity.

    There are also Arab distinctions. Besides the Arab/Muslim one, there are also the Bedouin, which are very different culturally,and the Druze which are also a distinctive culture from those others.

    And, of course, there are sizable amounts that fit neither with the Jews or the Arabs, completing an idea of multiculturalness.

    Edit: Multicultural doesn't mean one from every culture. It means that many exist in Israel.

    Aryan is kinda a loaded term. Do you mean Indians and Iranians, or non-Jewish blond haired blue eyed Europeans? Israel has both. Granted, there aren't a lot of those, but many do live in Israel, and amongst the Iranians and Indians there are Jews from both, and I think a lot of non-Jewish Indians do live in Israel as well. There are Christian Negroes in Israel, though I don't know how many, and due to the relationship between Israel and Pakistan only Pakistani descent Jews live there.

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    Sure. The majority of the people in Israel are of the Jewish faith, obviously. But about 25% of the population are Muslims (Sunni) and there are a good amount of Christians as well. Israel has a wide range of Synagogues, Churches and Mosque.

    As far as racial diver city goes, not to much. But there are people from many different countries who live in Israel, more then you would expect. A lot from Eastern Europe, Canada, America etc.

    I am an Israeli living in America. When I tell people I am from Israel they think it some 3rd world country. When people think of Israel they think of religion, tourist and possibly war. But in reality. Israel is a normal country, I don't see any major difference.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes, there are many cultures in Israel... a good example would be that there is the Western Wall, the Dome of the Rock, and a major Church just in Jerusalem. There is also a Muslim quarter and a Christain quarter.

    So, yes. Israel is a multicultural state





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    Jun 21, 2012 2:33 AM GMT
    History of the Jews in Pakistan

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Pakistan

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    What Happened to Pakistan’s Jews?

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    Pakistan was never traditionally antisemitic. In fact, it may come as a surprise that Pakistan hosted small, yet thriving, Jewish communities from the 19th century until the end of the 1960s. Recently, Yoel Reuben, a Pakistani Jew living in the Israeli town of Lod whose family originated in Lahore, documented some of the history of the Jewish communities with photographs of original documents. When India and Pakistan were one country, before the partition in 1947, the Jews were treated with tolerance and equality. In the first half of the 20th century, there were nearly 1,000 Jewish residents in Pakistan living in different cities: Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta, and Lahore. The largest Jewish community lived in Karachi, where there was a large synagogue and a smaller prayer hall. There were two synagogues in Peshawar, one small prayer hall in Lahore belonging to the Afghan Jewish community, and one prayer hall in Quetta. Even today, according to unofficial sources, there are rumors that some Jews remain in Pakistan, including doctors and members of the free professions, who converted or passed themselves off as members of other religions.
    The Jews of Pakistan were of various origins, but most were from the Bene Israel community of India, and came to Pakistan in the employ of the British. Yifah, a student at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, relates that her great-great-grandfather Samuel Reuben Bhonkar, who was a Bene Israel, came to Karachi in British India to work as a jailer, and died there in 1928. The Bene Israel originated in the Konkan villages, but many moved to Bombay from the end of the 18th century on. In Pakistan, they spoke Marathi, their mother tongue from Maharashtra; Urdu, the local language; and most spoke English. Prayers were conducted in Hebrew. In 1893, a Bene Israel from Bombay, Solomon David Umerdekar, inaugurated the Karachi Magen Shalom Synagogue on the corner of Jamila Street and Nishtar Road, which officially opened in 1912. During these years, the Jewish community thrived. In 1903, the community set up the Young Man’s Jewish Association, and the Karachi Bene Israel Relief Fund was established to support poor Jews. In 1918, the Karachi Jewish Syndicate was formed to provide housing at reasonable rents, and the All India Israelite League, which represented 650 Bene Israel living in the province of Sind (including Hyderabad, Larkuna, Mirpur-Khas, and Sukkur, as well as Karachi), was first convened—founded by two prominent Bene Israel, Jacob Bapuji Israel and David S. Erulkar. Karachi became a fulcrum for the Bene Israel in India, the place where they congregated for High Holiday prayers. There was also a prayer hall, which served the Afghan Jews residing in the city. A 1941 government census recorded 1,199 Pakistani Jews: 513 men and 538 women. So accepted were the Jews of Karachi in these years that Abraham Reuben, a leader in the Jewish community, became the first Jewish councilor on the Karachi Municipal Corporation.
    ANTI-ZIONISM BEGINS
    On August 15, 1947, India was partitioned and the Dominion of Pakistan was declared. Partition effectively signaled the end of the British Empire. Fearful of their future in the new Islamic state, Jews began to flee. Some fled from Afghanistan; the Bene Israel community in Lahore fled to Karachi and from there moved to Bombay. Muslim refugees from India, called Mohajir, streamed into Pakistan and attacked Jewish sites. The situation was exacerbated by the declaration of independence for the state of Israel in May 1948. Many of the Karachi Jews left the city in 1948, after rioters attacked the Karachi synagogue during a demonstration in May of that year against President Truman’s recognition of Israel. Some members of the community emigrated to Israel via India, while others settled in Canada and the United Kingdom.
    Pogroms against the Jews recurred during the Suez War in 1956 and the Six-Day War in 1967. Most of the remaining Jews emigrated and, in 1968, the Pakistani Jewish community numbered only 350 in Karachi, with one synagogue, a welfare organization, and a recreational organization. After 1968, there is no record of any Pakistani Jews outside Karachi.
    Today, anti-Israel discourse manifests itself in the notion that Israel and Pakistan are ultimately in competition and thus only one can flourish. In April 2008, Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, the former chief of Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence, proclaimed that “two states came into existence in 1947 and 1948: one, Pakistan; two, Israel. The two are threats to each other. Ultimately, only one of them will survive.” Pakistan aligns itself with the Palestinian Muslim cause and rejects the United States insofar as it is allied with Israel.
    THE KARACHI JEWISH COMMUNITY ENDS
    The Magen Shalom synagogue in Karachi was destroyed on July 17, 1988, by order of Pakistan president Zia-Ul-Hak to make way for a shopping mall in the Ranchore Lines neighborhood of Karachi. In 1989, the original ark and podium were stored in Karachi; a Torah scroll case was taken by an American to the United States.
    As late as 2006, the sole survivor of the Karachi Jewish community, Rachel Joseph, a former teacher, then 88 years old, was battling for compensation for the broken promise from the property developers that had demolished the old synagogue; in exchange, she would receive an apartment, and a new small synagogue would be constructed on the old site. While the litigation wore on, she languished in a tiny room.
    This year, a Muslim Pakistani-American filmmaker, Shoeb Yunus, shot a film about the Jewish cemetery in Karachi. Today, it is part of the larger Cutchi Memon graveyard, which has a Muslim caretaker. It took Yunus eight months to gain admission, and the camera crew was allowed only 10 minutes to shoot. He estimates that there are 200-400 Jewish graves. The neglected cemetery has not been destroyed since its last custodian, Rachel Joseph, died on July 17, 2006.
    By Shalva Weil, senior researcher at the Research Institute for Innovation in Education at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Israel.
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:24 PM GMT
    Was trying to look up if there was always a Jewish presents in the land of Israel and this is what I stumbled upon:
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    Have there always been Jewish people in the region of Palestine?

    These are the Facts:

    * 2500 BC: Settlement of the Canaanites.
    * 1250 BC: Israelite conquest of Canaan.
    * 965 - 928 BC: Reign of King Solomon.
    * 721 BC: Assyrian conquest of Israel.
    * 586 BC: Judah defeated by Babylonians.
    * 539 BC: Persians conquer Babylonia.
    * 333 BC: Alexander's conquest of Persia brings Greek rule.
    * 165 BC: Revolt of the Maccabees.
    * 63 BC: Palestine incorporated into Roman Empire.
    * 70 AD: Destruction of Jerusalem Temple by Romans.
    * 135: Bar Kokhba revolt suppressed.
    * 330: Palestine under Byzantine rule (to 63icon_cool.gif.
    * 638: Muslims capture Palestine from Byzantines.
    * 1099: Jerusalem under Crusader control (to 1187).
    * 1291: Mamelukes capture final Crusader strongholds Acre and Caesarea.
    * 1516: Ottomans capture Palestine (to 1917).
    * 1776 - 1804: Ahmad Pasha Al Jazzar appointed Ottoman ruler of Acre; builds port, monopolizes trade.
    * 1799: Napoleon attacks Acre; repulsed by Al Jazzar.
    * 1832: Muhammad Ali Pasha of Egypt occupies Palestine (to 1840).
    * 1840: Lord Palmerston advocates Jewish immigration to Palestine.
    * 1869: Suez Canal opened.
    * 1878: First Zionist settlement at Petach Tiqwa.
    * 1882 - 1903: First wave of 25,000 Zionist immigrants.
    * 1906 - 1914: Second wave of 40,000 Zionist immigrants.
    * 1909: Tel Aviv founded north of Jaffa.
    * 1914: World War I starts; Ottoman Empire joins war on side of Germany, and attacks Russia.
    * 1916: Sykes-Picot Agreement secretly divides Ottoman Empire.
    * 1917: Balfour Declaration pledges UK support for "a Jewish national home in Palestine."
    * 1918: Palestine occupied by UK forces under General Allenby; World War I ends.
    * 1919 - 1923: Third wave of over 35,000 Zionist immigrants.
    * 1920: League of Nations mandates Palestine and Mesopotamia to UK.
    * 1921: UK appoints Haj Amin al-Husseini as Mufti of Jerusalem
    * 1922: UK excludes TransJordan from Jewish immigration; first UK census of Palestine shows 78% Muslim Arab, 11% Jewish, 9.6% Christian Arab.
    * 1924 - 1928: Fourth wave of 67,000 Zionist immigrants, raising Jewish population to 16%.
    * 1929 - 1939: Fifth wave of over 250,000 Zionist immigrants, raising Jewish population to 30%.
    * 1936 - 1939: Arab rebellion in Palestine.
    * 1939 - 1945: World War II in Europe.
    * 1947: UN adopts plan to partition Palestine into two states; Israel declares independence, fights war against Arab forces.

    The Percentage of Jewish shown to grow consistently:

    * 1922: 11.14% Jewish (83,790), 9.50% Christian, 78.34% Muslim.
    * 1931: 16.90% Jewish (174,606)
    * 1932: 17.90% Jewish (192,137)
    * 1933: 20.59% Jewish (234,967)
    * 1934: 23.38% Jewish (282,975)
    * 1935: 27.15% Jewish (355,157)
    * 1936: 28.10% Jewish (384,07icon_cool.gif
    * 1937: 28.24% Jewish (395,836)
    * 1938: 28.65% Jewish (411,222)
    * 1939: 29.66% Jewish (445,457)
    * 1940: 30.01% Jewish (463,535)
    * 1941: 29.90% Jewish (474,102)
    * 1942: 29.90% Jewish (484,40icon_cool.gif

    So, have there always been Jewish people in the region of Palestine?
    Hey....PEOPLE....IT'S AN EASY QUESTION.....It don't matter what you want to call them.......have they always been in the region of what has come to be called Palestine.....YES....OR ....NO....with an explanation and proof of your answer!

    That's it! Easy! Or is this site a total waste of time because of the prejudice fools who just want to push their ignorant beliefs.

    Mark S, JPAA Don't be obnoxious! just answer the question!

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    Best Answer - Chosen by Asker
    Maybe you have never read a history book but the Jews have been continuously living there for over three thousand years. How long have Arabs or Muslims been living there? Nowhere near as long. Half of Jewish history had already happened there by the time Mohammed even spoke his first words.

    In pre-Biblical times, the area was known as the Land of Canaan and had been a collection of city-states, tributary to the Egyptian Pharoah, as attested to in the Tel-El Amarna tablets. The breakup of the Egyptian empire beginning about 1500 BC made possible the invasion of the Israelites. According to Jewish tradition, twelve tribes entered Canaan from Egypt and conquered it, led by Joshua approximately 1240-1200 BC. Historical evidence from the Amarna tablets suggests that there were already 'apiru' (Hebrews) among the Canaanites in the time of Egyptian rule.

    During the final years of the Late Bronze Age, the Philistines also invaded Canaan (1500 - 1200 BC).

    The Biblical account continues with the rise of an Israelite kingdom, first under Saul and then under David at about 1000 BC, the date of David's conquest of Jerusalem.

    In 539 B.C. the Persians conquered the Babylonians. Alexander the Great conquered the area in 333 BC. Later, the attempt of Antiochus IV to impose Hellenism brought a Jewish revolt under the Maccabees, who set up a new Jewish state in 142 BC The state lasted until 63 BC, when Pompey conquered the region for Rome.

    When the Jews revolted in 66 AD, the Romans destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem (70 AD). The Bar Kochba revolt between 132 and 135 AD was also suppressed, Jericho and Bethlehem were destroyed, and the Jews were barred from Jerusalem. The Roman Emperor Hadrian determined to wipe out the identity of Israel-Judah-Judea. Therefore, he took the name Palastina and imposed it on all the Land of Israel. At the same time, he changed the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina. The Romans killed many Jews and sold many more in slavery but there was never a complete abandonment of the Land of Israel: there were always Jews and Jewish communities in Palestine, though the size and conditions of those communities fluctuated greatly.

    When Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity (312), he elevated the status of Jerusalem and the city became a center of Christian pilgrimage. Palestine was next conquered in 614 AD by the Persians, recovered briefly by the Byzantine Romans but fell to the Muslim Arabs under caliph Umar by the year 640. During the Umayyad rule, the importance of Palestine as a holy place for Muslims was emphasized, but little was done to develop the region economically. Few Arabs came to Palestine; the Muslim rulers ruled Christians and Jews.

    In 750, Palestine passed to the Abbasid caliphate, and this period was marked by unrest between factions that favored the Umayyads and those who preferred the new rulers.

    In the 9th century, Palestine was conquered by the Fatimid dynasty. Under the Fatimid caliph al Hakim (996-1021), Christians and Jews were harshly suppressed and many churches were destroyed. In 1099, Palestine was captured by the Crusaders, establishing the Latin Kingdom.

    By the time the Crusaders were defeated by Saladin at the battle of Hittin (1187), and the Latin Kingdom was ended, Palestine had become a wasteland. Mongol invaders who arrived in 1260 destroyed many of the villages. The Mamluks ended the Crusader period in 1291, but under Mamluk rule Palestine declined further. Mamluks burned and sacked towns and villages, uprooted orchards, and destroyed wells.

    In 1516 the Mamluks were defeated by the Ottoman Turks. In 1831, Muhammad Ali, the Egyptian viceroy nominally subject to the Ottoman sultan, occupied Palestine. Ottoman control was reasserted in 1840. The Ottoman tax system was ruinous and did much to keep the land underdeveloped and the population small. When Alexander W. Kinglake crossed the Jordan in 1834-35, he used the Jordan's only bridge,