Policies and Procedures

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    Mar 16, 2012 12:01 AM GMT
    I have noticed at my past two jobs (and my current job) a trend with policies and procedures. The following two have been the hardest for employees to follow:

    The first, and the biggest, is cell phones. I have seen more people get written up (and subsequently fired) for this. And it isn't because they had a sick child or a family emergency.

    The second is dress code. Take today for example. An employee decided to wear shorts, tights, and leggings to work. Another wore sneakers. The policy has been spelled out, and it still amazes me how many people end up getting written up and sent home.

    My thing is, I would hate to lose my job over something so minute. If it were work performance, I could understand. But these are two of the easiest, and the most broken policies.

    Is it just my jobs or is it like that everywhere?


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    Mar 16, 2012 12:18 AM GMT
    Its everywhere, unless you work for yourself or a small mom and pop outfit
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    No. It's everywhere.

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    Mar 16, 2012 12:35 AM GMT
    Written up and sent home? That sounds more like school than work. Anyway, yes it happens everywhere. Some people don't care, and others seem to like seeing how far they can push the limits.
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:39 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidWritten up and sent home? That sounds more like school than work. Anyway, yes it happens everywhere. Some people don't care, and others seem to like seeing how far they can push the limits.


    Yes, they lose pay. And it also is because it is a huge inconvenience and will hopefully be a lesson learned.

    Besides, a girl with three-quarters of her boobs out walking/bouncing around in six-inch heels is a bit much for a 8-hour shift. icon_redface.gif
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:06 AM GMT
    Dress codes are stupid. I wear flip flops to work whenever it's warm enough to.
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:10 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidDress codes are stupid. I wear flip flops to work whenever it's warm enough to.


    That's not a problem. But do you show up in a see-through pants (no underwear) and a shirt half-buttoned?
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:20 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    Balljunkie said
    paulflexes said

    That's not a problem. But do you show up in a see-through pants (no underwear) and a shirt half-buttoned?

    LOL,,, You sooo have to get a picture of this!!! I am dying laughing over here!
    I've not seen see-turn pants before...icon_biggrin.gifOMG.. if I wore See-Thru pants or even sheer at all and no undies,, there'd be some big problems in da' house for sure!


    Here you go:

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    I work for a company with a state contract. The state could show up any day, and a professional dress code is enforced Monday through Thursday. Jeans and sneakers are acceptable on Fridays.

    That would be awesome if you wore see-through pants. icon_lol.gif
  • LJay

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    Mar 16, 2012 2:21 AM GMT
    Could not agree more with the cell phone policy. I have had employees that spent more time on the phone than working and then got riled up when told to stop it. Too bad folks. You are at work to work, not to handle your personal life. If things are that out of control, you need to be somewhere else.

    If you are in a place that has a dress code, it should be observed, but some places do not need it. I had a fellow that worked as a packer in the back room who was covered with tatoos. He went shirtless and barefoot. No public contact. What the hell.

    Some places use these things more as control devices than anything else. I'd be happy to see those establishments nuked. It is pretty close to slavery to control people in that fashion.
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    Mar 16, 2012 4:54 AM GMT
    Balljunkie saidThe following two [policies and procedures about cell phone use and dress code] have been the hardest for employees to follow...

    That's because those involve common sense and common courtesy, both of which are becoming increasingly uncommon in and out of the workplace.
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    Mar 16, 2012 4:02 PM GMT
    All companies that I've worked in have policies and procedures in place. It is a good thing as it levels the playing field and you have known expectations from and between employees.

    Some policies are more strictly enforced than others. E.g. in a customer facing environment dress code policy will be one of those that are strictly enforced. The larger and more public the company the more it will be enforced. e.g. airlines.
  • dancedancekj

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    Mar 16, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    I believe there's a time and place for cell phone usage. That's usually during breaks in my line of work. I don't care so much if people check their phone occasionally or play on their phone when there is downtown, so long as they get their shit done and are on their game when they need to be. Most people are just addicted to their phones however, and allow it to interfere with their work - therefore, these sort of draconian laws are in place for those that would abuse the privilege.

    In some places, the attire is for safety as well. Close-toed shoes will help against sharps, spills, dropped items etc. I'd prefer to have some variability in the dress code (i.e. not just a suit and tie being the only option).

  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 16, 2012 4:18 PM GMT
    Well every employer is different... remember you have the small employers that probably have no real "code". In my office, it all depends on who I'm seeing that day. Today I'm in a tight polo shirt, jeans and Reebok zigs.... yesterday, shirt, tie and suit.. but I had 4 clients. Today is a laid back day with only 1 client and a vendor from a company I use for investment purposes.

    If I worked for a large company, I'd know their policies and certainly what was acceptable and not... and would follow them. No reason to put your professional scene in jeopardy by not following rules.
  • Stephan

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    Mar 16, 2012 4:23 PM GMT
    As all the replies you have gotten on this matter, they are right in what they establish in their policies.

    First, depending on what type of company it is, they can write and implement their policies accordingly.

    Second, before cell phones, Employees would make their personal call during their breaks and lunch times. So, many companies still feel that way, and they can implement that type of policy.

    Third, dress code, many companies whom have customers either enternal or external want to make sure that their employees are a reflection of what they represent. So, if a company enforces dress codes and you don't follow it, you can get fired.

    Note: Many of the younger generation that is coming up and going into the work force, think that flip flops, headphones and talking on thier cell phones is ok. Well, its not. Remember, its called work not social time.

    Sorry Dude, that's the way it is and I personally don't think that is wrong for getting fired over, especially if you are aware of the policies and rules.
  • hyperionx

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    Mar 16, 2012 4:29 PM GMT
    It's not everywhere.

    I work for a media company, and roll in around 10am... ish! I wear a hoodie and jeans, almost daily, unless I have a meeting that day, in which I wear a nice polo and shoes, but still jeans. I never dress up.

    The work still gets done no matter what time I come in or what I wear. Companies that have a strict dress code or be-here-on-time-every-day attitude can suck my balls.

    It's the 21st century, get with the program and be more flexible, or lose your talent.
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    Mar 16, 2012 11:11 PM GMT
    For decades I wore a suit and tie to work regardless of the weather, taking subways, incurring discomfort, hassle and a heck of a lot of dry cleaning bills.

    Then after a few years of Casual Fridays "daily business casual" debuted at my top tier firm a decade ago, with what constituted "appropriate business casual" clearly spelled out. Initially it was a trip taking in some people's loose interpretation of the policy and their style choices (which went way beyond reindeer sweaters). It was akin to people watching at an airport, or worse, a Walmart. But habitual abusers caused many companies to rescind the new policy, ruining it for everybody else. Mark my words people, keep it up with the indiscreet texting and your cell phones will soon be checked at the door or their signals jammed.
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    Mar 17, 2012 12:02 AM GMT
    It's just your job.... and every other job where you have to wear a name badge to work.
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    Mar 17, 2012 12:05 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    Balljunkie said
    paulflexes said

    That's not a problem. But do you show up in a see-through pants (no underwear) and a shirt half-buttoned?

    LOL,,, You sooo have to get a picture of this!!! I am dying laughing over here!
    I've not seen see-turn pants before...icon_biggrin.gif OMG.. if I wore See-Thru pants or even sheer at all and no undies,, there'd be some big problems in da' house for sure!


    Hmmmm.... I don't think there'd be problems in my house with that???

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    Mar 17, 2012 12:59 AM GMT
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  • barriehomeboy

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    Mar 17, 2012 1:06 AM GMT
    You don't get fired for what you wear. You get fired becuase your a fuckup at work and everybody hates you and they make a policy that says you can't wear stupid shoes to work, knowing that you wear them. Then you come in wearing them, and they fire you. Seriously.
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    Mar 17, 2012 1:35 AM GMT
    My thing is: why risk that shit? If you know there is a policy that is clearly outlined for you, why go and be a rebel? Are you like Karen Walker and working because you are bored and don't want to be at home or are you working because you have bills?