Straight Acting Bullshit!

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    Mar 16, 2012 6:27 AM GMT
    If you are gay...then how can you be straight acting. Why not just say you are more masculine. 80 percent of the men on this site look like straight up body builders and it is clear that you fit the "look" of a masculine person. Even though it is just a stereotype.

    I bring this up because as I have been speaking to people and reading what they say ( yes I dont just look at the pics..i actually read about people aswell.) I notice the need for people to always put straight acting.

    Why instead of saying you are a straight acting gay men, just say you are a masculine gay guy. I get annoyed because it is one thing for the straight community to say that gays are fems, but for gay men to define the fact that they are not feminine by saying they are straight acting, is also furthering stereotypes. It is also kinda rude in a sense.

    I just feel like the world would be better if more people realized that gay men are not all fem and not all masc, and it kinda makes it harder when the masculine guys classify their masculinity by saying that it means they are straight acting.

    You can't act a sexual orientation/preference...it is just another stereotype.
    Because all straight people are not the same just like gay people are not.

    So why do people like that term? It just promotes more ignorance in your own community when you classify yourself as a straight acting dude.

    You are not straight acting, you are just you. Also, being straight really has nothing to do with masculinity, it is just something people use interchangebly because once again, of stereotypes. There are feminine straight men out there.

    Masculinity is possessing qualities or characteristics considered typical of or appropriate to a man,

    All of this is nothing but stereotypes furthered by ignorance.We are saying what a man should and should not be and closing ourselves off/putting a label on people and trying to say how they should act.

    WHY?
  • greekguy79

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    Mar 16, 2012 7:13 AM GMT
    I personally think that a lot of this stems from the pervasive claim that straight men have taken to masculinity. Straight men--those alpha males!!!---they decide how manly a man is.

    For a lot of us guys (myself included), coming to terms with your sexuality can be a little emasculating. You come to terms with it, and look at all these straight guys, elbowing each other, making their next "fag" comment, or telling some joke that you've suddenly become the "butt" of.... (no pun intended) You feel compelled to prove that you're more than just something for the next asshole straight guy to make fun of. That you're no less a man then he is, just because you choose to lay down with other men. So rather than just say they are a masculine gay man, they feel they need to identify themselves as "straight-acting". Anything to keep themselves in that realm of masculinity, which straight men have seemed to lay claim to, and seem to be the only surveyors of.

    I'm not condoning it, or excusing it. I'm just saying that all too often, these gay dudes just really want to drive home the message that, "Hey, I may like men, but that doesn't make me any less of one". It's unfortunate that they feel they need a "str8" marker to do that.



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    Mar 16, 2012 12:27 PM GMT
    Yeh,

    I don't really get why people have to clarify that they don't lisp or have weak wrists. Once you come out your masculinity doesn't simply fall out during your next dump- classy I know.

    I mean most of the time I am not overly flamboyant, but that doesn't mean I don't like the odd lisp here and there. It is my right as a homo.
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:28 PM GMT
    Ausuniversity90 saidYeh,

    I don't really get why people have to clarify that they don't lisp or have weak wrists. Once you come out your masculinity doesn't simply fall out during your next dump- classy I know.

    I mean most of the time I am not overly flamboyant, but that doesn't mean I don't like the odd lisp here and there. It is my right as a homo.
    You have NO rights as a homo!icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:30 PM GMT
    I feel it is one of our only rights....

    Totes just got political there. Watch out.

  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 16, 2012 12:30 PM GMT
    Too bad gay guys have to "seek catagories" at all....
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:31 PM GMT
    Ausuniversity90 saidI feel it is one of our only rights....

    Totes just got political there. Watch out.

    Eh... fuck the politics! Just be you!
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:32 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidToo bad gay guys have to "seek catagories" at all....


    Very poetic and insightful.

    Whilst this may come out as sarcastic and there is probably a hint of it, I really do agree with you mate! Well said.
  • BeingThePhoen...

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    Mar 16, 2012 12:39 PM GMT
    I am who I am and I act any way I want. If people don't like that, they can suck my big gay....

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    Mar 16, 2012 12:52 PM GMT
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    Mar 16, 2012 12:57 PM GMT
    JamieJfromtheAWhy not just say you are more masculine. 80 percent of the men on this site look like straight up body builders and it is clear that you fit the "look" of a masculine person. Even though it is just a stereotype.


    They may look like bodybuilders but I bet some of them have the odd lispy moment/camp shriek when Barbara or someone releases a new record icon_lol.gif Perhaps even a limp wrist.......you can't always judge a book by it's cover as you pointed out.

    This topic has been covered to death though OP.
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    Mar 16, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
    Straight people are far superior to gay people, therefore it's a show of authority and superiority when a gay man says he's straight acting.

    The only thing he forgot to do was say which straight gender he acts like. Most of the time when they say straight acting, it means they act like straight females.
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    Mar 16, 2012 1:53 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidToo bad gay guys have to "seek catagories" at all....


    +1

    I don't understand why so many gay guys need to be labled. Fuck lables.
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:04 PM GMT
    Oh hai, masc/fem thread! I haven't seen you in literally HOURS!
  • NerdLifter

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    Mar 16, 2012 2:07 PM GMT
    Larkin saidOh hai, masc/fem thread! I haven't seen you in literally HOURS!

    I know right?
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
    I think what is even stranger is these trolls who have posted on RJ for a 1000 years or so and shut down "new" topics because they have seen them all before. Maybe they do not realize that a lot of newer members want to post about their own experience and get advice on their own personal experiences and not do a search on a 2 year old topic, but I keep seeing these geezers who have upwards of 10,000 posts shooting down topics because "it's been dealt with before."

    Hey, if you don't want to read about straight acting, or whatever, skip it, but please long termers, stop shutting down new topics just because you have been here and commented on these things for years. Some of us have not and like to see the new people commenting.
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:09 PM GMT
    guys I just had this awesome sandwich

    let's all talk about my awesome sandwich
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:12 PM GMT
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  • Hothouse

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    Mar 16, 2012 2:15 PM GMT
    I just wish some straight guys would start referring to themselves as "gay acting" because I've met a LOT of straight men that display a ton of gay attributes and stereotypes. Be a nice change of pace to hear a man say "I'm a gay-acting straight man."
  • Hothouse

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    Mar 16, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidguys I just had this awesome sandwich

    let's all talk about my awesome sandwich


    Was it a three-man sandwich with you in the middle???
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:16 PM GMT
    olorin said
    HndsmKansan saidToo bad gay guys have to "seek catagories" at all....


    +1

    I don't understand why so many gay guys need to be labled. Fuck lables.


    It's a nice thought to not want to have labels, but it is unrealistic. Whether as friends, romantic partners, coworkers, or whomever, we label all the people in our lives in a myriad of ways, including personality.
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:19 PM GMT
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:19 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidguys I just had this awesome sandwich

    let's all talk about my awesome sandwich



    Did said sandwich involve any bread products? and if so, a follow up question; what was the specific type of bread product?
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    Mar 16, 2012 2:39 PM GMT
    Or was it one of those KFC breadless sandwiches? Did it have bacon?
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    Mar 16, 2012 3:07 PM GMT
    I like str8 "acting" guys.

    Especially when they put they legs str8 up on my shoulders while I pound their asses to jello.