Buy Apple Products Guilt-Free? This American Life retracts Apple episode, says filmmaker lied, fabricated episode

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    Mar 16, 2012 8:50 PM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/american-life-retracts-apple-episode-says-daisey-fabricated-175638428.html

    Daisey said in the 39-minute episode that he became curious about the conditions of Chinese factories where Apple products are made after he discovered photos of factory workers that were left onto his iPhone by mistake. He travelled to the factories in Shenzhen, China and interviewed workers there, who told him they endured terrible working conditions. Daisey described meeting workers whose hands were shaking after they were poisoned with the neurotoxin hexane and meeting several children right at the gates of the factory who were as young as 12 years old.

    The China correspondent for the radio show Marketplace, Rob Schmitz, wrote that he decided to track down Daisey's translator after he found it suspicious for Daisey to ferret out some of the worst labor abuses reporters have been hunting for years in a six-day trip to the site. Translator Cathy Lee told Schmitz that she never saw the underaged or poisoned workers, and that she also never saw armed factory guards, which Daisey describes.

    So why didn't This American Life talk to Cathy Lee earlier, before they aired the episode? In a press release, the show says Daisey told them he lost her cell phone number. "At that point, we should've killed the story," show host Ira Glass said in the release. "But other things Daisey told us about Apple's operations in China checked out, and we saw no reason to doubt him. We didn't think that he was lying to us and to audiences about the details of his story. That was a mistake."

    This American Life said it did "weeks of fact checking to corroborate Daisey's findings," when airing his original episode.

    A new episode explaining how the show was duped will air Friday at 8 p.m. According to Schmitz, Daisey admits on the show that he never talked to poisoned workers.
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    Mar 17, 2012 1:26 AM GMT
    No guilt here! I make sure to never buy electronics that aren't 100% American made!
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    Mar 17, 2012 1:51 AM GMT
    The only Apple product I own is an iPod Nano, so no guilt here.
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    Mar 17, 2012 1:53 AM GMT
    paradox saidNo guilt here! I make sure to never buy electronics that aren't 100% American made!


    Just curious to know what electronic goods are still 100% american made? More specifically what phone do you have?
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    Mar 17, 2012 2:12 AM GMT
    guyfromnz said
    paradox saidNo guilt here! I make sure to never buy electronics that aren't 100% American made!


    Just curious to know what electronic goods are still 100% american made? More specifically what phone do you have?


    I have an HTC Desire, proudly made in North Dakota by highly trained squirrels.
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    Mar 17, 2012 2:34 AM GMT
    Im a Jew.

    I feel guilt because it's written into my damn DNA.

    My choice of consumer electronic brand has nothing to do with it.
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    Mar 17, 2012 2:40 AM GMT
    You guys really need to let this go. Electronic devices today end up chasing down part supplies Apple hasn't already reserved for their needs. There is no such thing as a US-made electronic computing device as only Pentium chips and some Micron/Crucial memory chips are still fabbed here. Aside from TI's fab in the DFW area, everything is overseas chasing the latest technology.

    This work area where Xbox360's are assembled in China is cleaner and quieter than where I work. (the original Xbox was assembled in Mexico.)



    Unless what you are sitting in front of now to surf the web has a pricetag that would make a Caddilac dealer go pale and have names like IBM or Sun Microsystems... just let it go.

    Before you start shopping, "we make purple computers" rebrands their monitors from Sony.

    No one has ever assembled color LCDs here in the US. Ever.
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    Mar 17, 2012 2:46 AM GMT
    paradox said
    guyfromnz said
    paradox saidNo guilt here! I make sure to never buy electronics that aren't 100% American made!


    Just curious to know what electronic goods are still 100% american made? More specifically what phone do you have?


    I have an HTC Desire, proudly made in North Dakota by highly trained squirrels.


    I really hope you're just trolling..
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    Mar 17, 2012 2:49 AM GMT
    No guilt here. Those damn children need to put my stuff together faster.
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    Mar 17, 2012 2:56 AM GMT
    It is not a complete retraction that apple has poor worker conditions, it's simply a statement that that guy's stories were exaggerated or fictitious... Their working conditions ARE STILL terrible...
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    Mar 17, 2012 5:08 AM GMT
    mike29401 saidNo guilt here. Those damn children need to put my stuff together faster.
    Right? I want that goddamn iPhone 5 with 3D holographic video. Those kids need to hurry the fuck up.
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    Mar 17, 2012 11:36 AM GMT
    guyfromnz said
    paradox said
    guyfromnz said
    paradox saidNo guilt here! I make sure to never buy electronics that aren't 100% American made!


    Just curious to know what electronic goods are still 100% american made? More specifically what phone do you have?


    I have an HTC Desire, proudly made in North Dakota by highly trained squirrels.


    I really hope you're just trolling..


    Not trolling... more a commentary in silliness about the reality that there simply are no mass produced consumer electronics that are not made in third world countries with cheap labor.
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    Mar 17, 2012 12:02 PM GMT
    I love Apple everything!!
    I have no guilt buying their products everytime a newer version comes out. (And stock shares when available)
    NO ONE FORCES THESE PEOPLE TO WORK THERE!
    Do I like that children are assembling? (If that's even true.) No. ONLY because I wouldn't trust their proficiency as much as an adult's. But guilt? None.

    Would I rather their products by made here in America? Not sure. It seems when countries with work ethics, stricter rules and stricter penalties assemble products, there is better workmanship involved. As opposed to unionized American companies where there are multiple chances given before termination, etc......

    Tristan
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    Mar 17, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
    Gosh, you mean all the personal abuse I've suffered at the hands of a certain RJ member for owning Apple products, as recently as this past week, was based on a big LIE? Now why would this not surprise me, that personal attacks from some quarters here are ultimately proven false & groundless?
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    Mar 17, 2012 12:10 PM GMT
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